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  • #91
    Originally posted by seaweed View Post
    wasnt there a banana diet around at some stage? i dont like bananas but would it work the same way?
    I remember that, something like '30 bananas a day'. Bananas are high in fructose, I believe. The potato trick works because of the high starch (glucose) content, with no fructose. Fructose has to be digested in the liver, glucose goes straight to cells.

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    • #92
      that makes sense. i really dont like bananas anyways so any excuse not to eat them is good.

      ETA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_banana_diet eek!!!
      Last edited by seaweed; 10-08-2012, 09:38 PM. Reason: added url

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      • #93
        Question.

        How important do some of you feel that being totally fat adapted is for this experiment? The reason I ask is, I've been Primal for a year next week, with great results, however I haven't been strict and cheat free in months. Especially these last few months after moving out of my parents house and turning 21; I've been drinking often and cheating 2-3 times a week some weeks, sometimes more, often less; more-so have gone about 60/40 primal if I had to guess.

        I started the Whole 30 ten days ago to put myself back into full Primal mode, and have been following this thread since it was posted, very eager to try it. I am considering cutting my Whole 30 short to begin this experiment, but I'm concerned I will reap a much bigger benefit from it by completing the Whole 30 and then trying it.

        note: this technically doesn't have to interrupt my Whole 30 considering I'm already allowing white potatoes (don't see why they aren't allowed on the Whole 30). I could do it for 7 days and just return to my normal Whole 30 diet; however, I'm still confronted with the issue of making sure I'm totally fat adapted before I carb-bomb myself.
        Last edited by bdilla; 10-08-2012, 09:52 PM.
        this great blue world of ours seems a house of leaves, moments before the wind

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        • #94
          Originally posted by bdilla View Post
          Question.

          How important do some of you feel that being totally fat adapted is for this experiment? The reason I ask is, I've been Primal for a year next week, with great results, however I haven't been strict and cheat free in months. Especially these last few months after moving out of my parents house and turning 21; I've been drinking often and cheating 2-3 times a week some weeks, sometimes more, often less; more-so have gone about 60/40 primal if I had to guess.

          I started the Whole 30 ten days ago to put myself back into full Primal mode, and have been following this thread since it was posted, very eager to try it. I am considering cutting my Whole 30 short to begin this experiment, but I'm concerned I will reap a much bigger benefit from it by completing the Whole 30 and then trying it.
          Being fat adapted isn't required. I say start now!

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          • #95
            Originally posted by bdilla View Post
            Question.

            How important do some of you feel that being totally fat adapted is for this experiment? The reason I ask is, I've been Primal for a year next week, with great results, however I haven't been strict and cheat free in months. Especially these last few months after moving out of my parents house and turning 21; I've been drinking often and cheating 2-3 times a week some weeks, sometimes more, often less; more-so have gone about 60/40 primal if I had to guess.

            I started the Whole 30 ten days ago to put myself back into full Primal mode, and have been following this thread since it was posted, very eager to try it. I am considering cutting my Whole 30 short to begin this experiment, but I'm concerned I will reap a much bigger benefit from it by completing the Whole 30 and then trying it.
            I'd finish the whole 30 first and then go at it.

            However, strictly speaking, it's the caloric deficit that will take the weight off. Being "fat adapted" might enhance results somewhat, but I wouldn't think that not being adapted would take away all benefit.
            "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
              I'd finish the whole 30 first and then go at it.

              However, strictly speaking, it's the caloric deficit that will take the weight off. Being "fat adapted" might enhance results somewhat, but I wouldn't think that not being adapted would take away all benefit.
              I hear you. Like I said in my edit, though: Technically I would not be interrupting my Whole 30 because I've been including white potatoes as it is. Main concern is eliminating dairy and alcohol. So I'm thinking I may try it.
              this great blue world of ours seems a house of leaves, moments before the wind

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              • #97
                Well, you may not see quite the dramatic results if you aren't fat adapted, but there should be some benefit to undertaking it.
                "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                • #98
                  Cool, I guess I will give this a shot with cycling sweet potatoes, potatoes, and rice when I run out of meat. In the meantime, looking forward to everyone's results!
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                  • #99
                    Day One over - 4lbs of spuds and a small bowl of rice.

                    Weigh in Day 2 morning - 81.2kg, so up .2kg. Early days so nothing to fret about anyway.

                    I am going to mix potatoes and white rice today for variation

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                    • Very interesting thread y'all have here.

                      I've been watching this progress, and I think I'll have to give it a try in the next week or two, providing that the people already experimenting with this continue to have positive results.

                      *thumbs up*

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                      • Originally posted by otzi View Post
                        1 or 2 pounds says nothing because a big glass of water or a big dump can weigh 1 or 2 pounds
                        Speaking of which, how are y'all doing in that department. I had a day of A-mazing! haha and days of nothing. I dont think I am eating as many as some though. I weighed one of my larger taters I have been eating, and it was just over 5 oz, so I am eating 3 - 5 of those per day.

                        I did have some salt water this morning. I have taken magnesium on and off, more off than on I guess.
                        65lbs gone and counting!!

                        Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                        • I find it fascinating that a fad diet like this is being received so enthusiastically. I am very interested in knowing more about the people using this method, specifically:

                          a) are you overweight and trying to lose a lot of BF or are you lean and trying to lose the "last 5 pounds",

                          b) do you find that following a primal lifestyle simply does not work for you with regards to your fat-loss goals? Or is it too hard to stick to and you find your weight creeps up slowly so that you have to "reset" every now and then with something like the tater diet?

                          Not judging btw, genuinely curious.

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                          • I can tell you that if I were to try it it is because the basic primal blueprint diet has gotten the inuslin-resistance weight off nicely but nothing more than that. I could easily lose 10-20 more pounds and almost look like the image of pretty in the success stories he normally posts. All the exercises have just left me wrecked and sore to the point of not being able to roll over in bed for 4 days per week. After 9 months of the exercises and sprinting and spending over half those 9 months being sore with no weight loss, I'm sick of all that. But I haven't tried this potato thing.
                            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                            • Originally posted by zilog View Post
                              I find it fascinating that a fad diet like this is being received so enthusiastically. I am very interested in knowing more about the people using this method, specifically:

                              a) are you overweight and trying to lose a lot of BF or are you lean and trying to lose the "last 5 pounds",

                              b) do you find that following a primal lifestyle simply does not work for you with regards to your fat-loss goals? Or is it too hard to stick to and you find your weight creeps up slowly so that you have to "reset" every now and then with something like the tater diet?

                              Not judging btw, genuinely curious.
                              Ok, remember... you asked

                              For me: I see it as more of a hack and fine tuning. Not a fad. Just something to do now and then. I am trying to read and learn more of the science behind it and will see how it goes for my n=1 & then decide it it is something I should practice now & then.

                              a) overweight
                              b) primal lifestyle works & fits just fine, and taters are primal, right? Primal is not hard to stick to, it is the way I was raised and started raising my children before busy lives, hectic schedules, and all too convenient fast food. The reason why this peaked my interest, I have been reviewing my trackers, trying to figure out what I need to do. It should have been obvious I guess, however everyone says fat is where it's at & give it time, so I kept at it. But I lost most of my weight pre-primal, mostly watching my fat intake. My tracking clearly shows that when I went primal in March and went from 30% up to 50% fat, weight loss went from 10lbs per month down to 4-5lbs per month. The more fat I added, the slower the weight loss until finally last month it was less than 2lbs and I realized moar fat was just not working for me. My calories were always at a deficit each day especially with w/IF. I wanted to go back to what was working before, but keep it in the primal food family but I was apprehensive I also kept thinking about how 2 decades ago when I was in the best shape of my life, I was living on alot of taters, mostly because they were cheap and easy, I knew nothing about nutrition. But I lived at the gym so I didnt know if it would work again, and I read carbs drives insulin drives fat, so taters were a carb I had been avoiding for the last 7 months and only had occasional the previous 3. Then I read on Perfect Health Diet webpage the other day (and I had read it many times before but I wasn't grasping it) and he is believes in 65% fat, except for weight loss. He said to cut the fat for weight loss, and he believes in including starches like taters, so I came off my fast, into lower fat w/taters, and then within a day or two this tater business popped up. High fat was not working for me for weight loss although I think it will be just fine for maintenance, so it was time to try something else.

                              IMO, this is just a tool, like fasting is a tool or whey protein shakes, etc are a tool
                              65lbs gone and counting!!

                              Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                              • Originally posted by zilog View Post
                                I find it fascinating that a fad diet like this is being received so enthusiastically. I am very interested in knowing more about the people using this method, specifically:

                                a) are you overweight and trying to lose a lot of BF or are you lean and trying to lose the "last 5 pounds",

                                b) do you find that following a primal lifestyle simply does not work for you with regards to your fat-loss goals? Or is it too hard to stick to and you find your weight creeps up slowly so that you have to "reset" every now and then with something like the tater diet?

                                Not judging btw, genuinely curious.
                                As the previous poster mentioned, this is not a fad diet, it is an idea that a forum user has used to good effect, and there are a few of us who like an experiment, just for the hell of it to see how it works.

                                I have around 6-8lbs of fat to lose to hit 10-12% BF, if this hack can help, what the hell, this is not going to make you ill in a fortnight, in fact few diets would, they usually require chronic poor dietary decisions over years to mess up your metabolism etc.

                                I love the primal liefstyle, eating, exercise etc, but I am also an experimenter. I personal train some very overweight people, and get them to eat low carb and primal. If I were to talk to other trainers, nutritionists and sporting bodies, they would tell me I was giving FAD diet advice :-) I don't ask my clients to eat taters for a week or more, but as an individual, I can do it, and see what it brings.

                                I think I will be pretty strictly primal and low carb for life now, but a week of experimentation with food, and how it affects body composition, energy levels etc, is very interesting to me. Hell, Tim Ferris has done pretty nicely with his experimentation philosophy, makes life interesting !

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