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  • There is no reason to suppose this creates a yo-yo effect. The weight goes off and stays off for most people who have reported trying this weight loss hack.

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    • Well I'm still reading the Thermogenex blog and the science is really good. I hope that anyone who's going to slag this off has actually read before they comment... It's seriously interesting stuff.

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      • A friend sent this when I told her about this week's potato fast...
        McDougall Newsletter June 2006 Mary's Mini-McD Diet

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        • Sheesh - not all of us see this as a weight loss bandwagon. I am not overweight, never have been. I am a very fit and muscular man in his 30s.

          I was curious as to the science and how it would affect my exercise and energy (and weight, as a measurement not an objective) after being paleo and generally at the lower end of the carb spectrum, whilst having a physically demanding job. Generalised statements (especially those dictating what someone else should do, or not do, thanks AC) are just crazy when you don't know why someone is experimenting.

          I am happy to shake things up now and then, I like to see how my body responds to different things. If I want to have a crack at this for 3 days with one meal that is a deviation, just because I was aiming for 5 days but going a bit nuts, I will.

          I am not chasing a weight loss miracle and I don't think anyone should assume what everyone else is doing.

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          • Originally posted by Meatgrrrl View Post
            A friend sent this when I told her about this week's potato fast...
            McDougall Newsletter June 2006 Mary's Mini-McD Diet
            That is an awesome find! As I said before, the real answer will be somewhere between hardcore paleo and hardcore vegan. Take this quote from the article:

            "High protein diets are popular in part because they are easy to learn and follow: Buy a burger anywhere—throw away the bun, scrape off the ketchup and you are now on a diet that gives immediate weight loss. The working mechanism for this diet is to make you sick by feeding you an unbalanced diet solely of fat and protein, causing fluid loss and appetite suppression. Over the long course this form of malnutrition causes your arteries to rot, your bones to be urinated into the toilet, your bowels to ache from plugged-up defecation, and your body to smell like the stock-yards you pass while driving down highway 5 (from San Francisco to Los Angeles).

            The learning curve for the McDougall Program is steep: People must retrain their taste buds to enjoy unfamiliar foods, and they must also learn new ways to cook, shop, and socialize. There are additional struggles: healthy eating in restaurants often requires brutal confrontations with the wait-staff and detective-like skills are needed to locate McDougall-approved convenience items in the local grocery. Add to these burdens daily sabotage from well-meaning friends, family members, and their own doctor. But, the reward from overcoming these obstacles is their best opportunity to have a lifetime of great health. Mary’s Mini-McDougall Diet is powerful tool to use for easing the learning curve. "

            Pure vegan. But we know she's way wrong, so we also assume her take on potatoes is wrong: "White potatoes are 10% protein with all of the essential amino acids provided in generous amounts. These tubers have 2.5 grams of dietary fiber per potato. That translates into 50 grams for an active man and 37 grams for an active woman. Potatoes are very high in vitamin C, B vitamins, potassium and other minerals. In animal experiments potatoes have been shown to have a particularly potent cholesterol-lowering effect.4 Feeding rats a potato-enriched diet for 3 weeks led to a 30% decrease in cholesterol and a 36% decrease in triglyceride levels.5

            The potato even meets the needs of growing infants. Eleven Peruvian children, ages 8 months to 35 months, recovering from malnutrition, were fed diets where all of the protein and 75% of the calories came from potatoes.6,7 Their growth patterns were normal. (Soybean-cottonseed oils and pure simple sugars provided some of the extra calories—neither of these sources—oil or sugar—contains protein, vitamins, or minerals.) "

            The ironic part is, she is advocating the potato diet as a life-long endeavor...we are using it as a fat-busting, short-term diet hack, then resuming our eating of 'rotting animal flesh'.

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            • Originally posted by otzi View Post
              The ironic part is, she is advocating the potato diet as a life-long endeavor...we are using it as a fat-busting, short-term diet hack, then resuming our eating of 'rotting animal flesh'.

              I know! :lol: Her descriptions made me laugh but this friend who sent me this does 'potato days' quite frequently to drop a couple of lb here and there. It's part of her lifestyle.

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              • Originally posted by Meatgrrrl View Post
                A friend sent this when I told her about this week's potato fast...
                McDougall Newsletter June 2006 Mary's Mini-McD Diet
                ha...fascinating!

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                • Hey, join the club. I'm at the end of my second day. Very filling.


                  I am curious why some people didn't experience weight loss at all with this hack. I find that quite interesting. I hope I'm not one of them....

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                  • 2 more lb gone in 2 days

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                    • Originally posted by temmeyhpettti
                      Even if it was the superdiet and worked wonders, sounds very, very boring... I would probably not last more than a day on this.
                      It is somewhat boring, and a day here and there is how I use it now. Just a little extra push when I need it. Or sometimes I start out with tators, and then finish the day with a regular meal
                      65lbs gone and counting!!

                      Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                        • Ugggh

                          I went over there a time or two to try to read up on it, but stuff was so buried & sometimes reads like a foreign language. It was nice to have a short & sweet translation. I also loved coming here just to read ppls results & be inspired.
                          65lbs gone and counting!!

                          Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                          • Originally posted by tatertot View Post
                            Hey, guys; I don't get on here much, but it looks like this thread took a strange turn. From what I can piece together, Otzi, the OP, was a member of Thermogenex - Fuel the Burn and posted some stuff on here that he 'borrowed' from that site. The owner of Thermogenex - Fuel the Burn took issue with the cross-sharing of info and put in a cease-and-desist order against Otzi from talking about, of all things, potatoes. How bizarre.

                            Well, I went and read what Ray Cronise wrote about potatoes, and I couldn't see anything propietary about this knowledge. In fact, I would say Ray Cronise 'borrowed' most of his stuff from Steven Guyenet, Dr. McDougall, and Peter at Hyperlipid. There was absolutely nothing at Thermogenex - Fuel the Burn about an official 'potato diet', just about 50 comments on a blog about gut health wherein Ray Cronise recommended people eat potatoes for weight loss. When people ask about it, he gets very dismissive saying 'everyone has it wrong' and 'nobody but him knows how metabolisms really work'. He then promises more data is coming soon and he will soon reveal the truth behind weightloss. Sounds kinda 'Wizard of Oz' to me. Wasn't there another guy that did this kinda stuff recently? Jack Kruse, anybody?

                            Anyway, I just want to tell you all that no matter how this gets spun, a diet of all potatoes seems to be the height of fat loss. I did it for 14 days and lost 10lbs, nearly 3 weeks later, I'm down 12lbs from where I started. I was weight stable for almost 2 years prior to 1 October, my extra weight was firmly entrenched around my midsection and I could not get it to budge. 2 weeks of potatoes and I'm down 2" of abdominal circumference and it has stayed off, despite returning to my pre-potato eating levels.

                            I think anyone considering giving this a try should do it immediately. Stick to as plain of potatoes as possible, no fancy cooking methods, baked or boiled, in my opinion is perfect. Boiled and chilled even better. Don't count calories, don't intentionally try to eat at your old levels, just eat til full.

                            I've been working with 9 people who are doing the potato diet and all of them are losing about 1/2 pound a day or more. I think it is a shame that Otzi was stifled, and I don't really understand what's going on, but we need to keep spreading the word on this diet tip. Cheap, easy, almost fool-proof, and it really works!

                            I may start a new thread later this week where we can put some of the discussion back in and leave Otzi and Ray Cronise to their own little world at Thermogenex - Fuel the Burn
                            I definitely think you should, and put the thread in Odds and Ends so The Alarmists don't get their weenies
                            in a knot thinking newbies are going to read the potato thread and do that instead of primal.

                            Waaaaaaaah!

                            Post in here when you get that thread up and running.......................


                            Julie

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                            • Ray Cronise is a good guy. I have been reading his blog for years. Comments started showing up in a blog about losing weight eating potatoes. I made a few comments on his blog and Ray emailed me his phone number asking me to call him. We spoke at length about some research he was doing and papers he was getting ready to publish. He told me none of his work involved a 'potato diet' and he implied he didn't want to be the 'potato guy'. He said he used potatoes as a bit of a distractor in that potatoes had been villified by so many groups as an 'evil carb'. This is all in the comments of his blogs, so I'm not divulging anything here.

                              I started this thread and then emailed Ray to see if he wanted to join in. When he saw it, he asked me to please just send people over to his site as he didn't have time to devote to defending his work on Mark's Daily Apple. Ray came over here last year on a thread about Cold Thermogenesis and we had a good time Q&A'ing with him about the benefits of cold. I thought he may want to do the same with potatoes, but sadly, no.

                              So, no evil intent on my part. I think we can talk about this more later after his work is published and becomes public domain, but for now I am happy to watch you guys try it out and see where this all goes.

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                              • Originally posted by Im Losing It
                                Otzi found Cronise's work on Cronise's private forum, then came here and presented the work as his own and positioned himself as some kind of 'guru'. Was it for ego, to play the star? Or was Otzi's plan to monetize shortly?
                                Umm sorry. You are being grossly unfair also. Otzi never ever once presented the work or info as his own. He made that very well known from the get-go.
                                65lbs gone and counting!!

                                Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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