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  • Mom Book Lover ... Just curious, you are trying to cure a thyroid/adrenal imbalance by fasting nearly everyday, skipping breakfast, and partaking in chronic calorie restricting and/or crash dieting? ........... Rationale? ;-)
    On a mission to help others master movement, build unbreakable strength, & eat MORE food (can't beat that.) Weekly fitness, health & nutrition articles at indulgentfitness.com.

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    • Rationale.............on a thread like this is an odd question.
      First I have experimented on myself for years now. I did cure my thyroid and adrenals by eating whole foods and getting rid of the alergens that were causing my body to attack itself. I am still leary of eating the things that caused the problems in the first place but am not going to sit back and hope my body gets better by not doing anything. I was gaining weight very rapidly when I found out I could not tolerate alot of foods. I stopped eating those foods and started feeling tons better. I still was over weight and could not lose it for anything. Enter Primal blueprint. Which did not work for me on it's own. So a few months in I started paying attention to my lethargy and my eating habits. I would eat breakfast and get really sleepy. Then comes lunch and sleep and serious issues thinking straight. So I started reading the threads on intermittent fasting and Pklopps info and it made sense. I tried it while closely monitoring my temps. If they didn't go up from the 96 to 97 average they were at then I would know that it wasn't helping. Same goes for the adrenals. Only I monitor them by how much my temps fluctuate. If it's more that 3 degrees differenc on average for 3 consecutive days then I know my adrenals are struggling. I am at heart a self experimenter. That is truly where most of my rationale comes from. The potato feast is just another addition as my temps have leveled off and so has my weight loss. So I move on to a new experiment.

      Plus just like you I have people I haven't seen in a long time coming and I want to look my best.
      Just because I have these endo diseases does not mean I have to settle for fat and boring........

      P.S. and as far as the calorie restricting that is only on this potato feast and because I can't eat anymore than about 800 to 900 calories of them(if I'm lucky). I normally do not ever calorie restrict and am avidly against it. That is why it took me this long to try the feast.
      Last edited by mom5booklover; 10-25-2012, 02:33 PM.
      F/37yr/5' 5"
      SW: 154 March 2011
      CW: 140 July to Oct 2011
      PB: 145 gained 5lbs in first 4 months March to July 2012
      With a combo of PB and IF-ing 5 days a week (1 x 1200 calorie meal per day) I have lost 15 lbs PB/IF = 130 lbs July 2012 to current
      GW: 120
      Ultimate Goals ar to be: Happy/ Fit/ Energetic/ Feel great/ Balanced/ cure my thyroid and adrenals

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      • Fasting does not skew your temperatures? How long did it take you to bring your temps up to a normal range? I'm sorry if you felt I was singling you out or whatever, just curious because a lot of people (myself included) will go to some pretty extreme measures just to drop a few pounds while sacrificing sanity or health. I know if I intentionally "diet" for more than a few days, I'll get too fixated on my appearance and my performance in the gym suffers... Which is really what gives me a consistent love for myself.

        Of course having an endocrine disorder does not mean you have to be "fat and boring"!!!! Where did that even come from?!? One... I am sure you are not "fat". And two, eating a potato diet is more "boring" than anything else I can freaking imagine.

        I was going off your signature, by the way... 1200 calories, 5x/wk fasting.
        On a mission to help others master movement, build unbreakable strength, & eat MORE food (can't beat that.) Weekly fitness, health & nutrition articles at indulgentfitness.com.

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        • I figured you were going off of my sig. 1200 calories is a generic number for my actual BMR which is around 1246ish as I don't do alot of exercise most days. Mom, wife, full time job, kids activities, homework, etc..... make exercise very hard to fit in. I (try) to take a long slow walk with the dog 4 to 6 days a week which does not use many calories(other than the fact that she's a st bernard and quite strong). I have a desk job. I do yoga 2 days a week. I try to sprint once a week but really haven't been able to since I injured my ankle 3 months ago. I lift heavy on my lunch hour about 2 days a week. So my caloric needs are very low (1246 on rest days according to IF Calculator). When I do yoga I use alot more calories and usually do eat more than this but still in order to lose I stay under 1500 calories or so. I have learned over the years since my thyroid diagnosis that my metabolism is just slower than most peoples so I can't eat like everyone else. Thats what put me at the weight I was at in the first place.
          I get what your saying about self image and believe me I know the extremes you speak of and I won't deny that I have gone there in the past. I just have reached a point where health is also important where back then I didn't even have an inkling what my health was like while "dieting." The IF -ing is something I just feel better doing. I am just trying this potato "hack" for a few days to see what happens. If I feel terrible like I did the first time I tried it then I won't do it again. I also have been thinking about adding more carbs into my eating and I feel like this is a good way to see how badly I might react to them.
          I did feel slightly singled out but no worries. I understand what it might look like to others. I wasn't saying you said anything about "fat and boring." I just think some people do sit back and hope someone helps them by giving them another pill to pop while gaining massive amounts of weight and drowning in thier own misery. I am not one of those people. I have a problem...........I find a way to fix it. The "fat and boring" statement has been said to my family members who think I should just do what the doctors say.......Which in the long run is to be "fat and boring."
          F/37yr/5' 5"
          SW: 154 March 2011
          CW: 140 July to Oct 2011
          PB: 145 gained 5lbs in first 4 months March to July 2012
          With a combo of PB and IF-ing 5 days a week (1 x 1200 calorie meal per day) I have lost 15 lbs PB/IF = 130 lbs July 2012 to current
          GW: 120
          Ultimate Goals ar to be: Happy/ Fit/ Energetic/ Feel great/ Balanced/ cure my thyroid and adrenals

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          • Originally posted by otzi View Post
            You know I was just joking! I love your posts and am extremely jealous of that flag-pole thing! Reminds me of my hero, Al Kavadlo.
            Missed the joke part but all good and those flags are doable....go for them!
            Last edited by Dirlot; 10-25-2012, 04:59 PM.
            Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
            PS
            Don't forget to play!

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            • Sorry if this is a dumb question but how do you dry cook hashbrowns??? My first attempt turned into a sticky mess that I ended up just mushing the result... On day 3 of taters and down 2.8 lbs!

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              • Sorry if this is a dumb question but how do you dry cook hashbrowns??? My first attempt turned into a sticky mess that I ended up just mushing the result... On day 3 of taters and down 2.8 lbs!


                I shred 2 or 3 medium sized potatoes. Then get a non-stick pan really hot, not red-hot, but hot enough to burn butter if you know what I mean. Then plop all the potatoes into the pan and turn the heat down a bit. Let them cook undisturbed for about 2-3 minutes, they will turn pretty dark, but won't burn if you get it just right.

                Now, with a good plastic spatula, scrape underneath until they are free, then turn all at once or in sections. Once they are all turned, put the lid back on and let them cook 3-5 minutes. Scrape again and flip, now you can also salt and pepper them. Turn heat way down and let cook until they are done. Total time is about 8-10 minutes.

                I read earlier today someone else is making them in a waffle maker. I'm going to dust mine off and try it in the morning.

                Good luck!

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                • I am sure I missed some posts, so not sure if this was discussed. But Mark talks about carb refeeds for weight loss for the purpose of restoring leptin levels in the dieter. Anything starchy 250 - 300g worth. Talks about a day, or 2-3 days, or some experts say a week long refeed. He says:
                  You’ll probably get that bloated, water-weight feeling the following day, especially if your diet is relatively low-carb, but that will go away after a day or so. Leptin will rise (independent of fat storage), glycogen will replenish, and your appetite will normalize.

                  I may not find refeeds necessary for my goals, but I recognize that they can help people reach their goals. Everyone’s different. I can’t guarantee my way will work – you may have to get super strict and follow Martin Berkhan’s or Lyle McDonald’s methods to reach your desired level of leanness.
                  Still, the Primal refeed is worth experimenting with, especially if you’ve reached a plateau lasting a month or more.

                  I’m a big fan of steady, gradual weight loss, and the leaner you get the slower it gets, but it’s not for everyone. The above recommendations simply represent a way you can adhere to the Primal eating plan and still tinker with carb refeeds without overly disrupting your usual diet.

                  If you’re still having trouble reconciling the refeed notion with your idea of Grok’s lifestyle, just imagine you found a bushel of mangos, or happened upon a particularly fruitful trove of edible roots. You think Grok would have tossed those mangos to avoid the carbohydrates?

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                  65lbs gone and counting!!

                  Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                  • otzi, I am the person who asked Before and After pics.
                    But what you didn't understand is that I asked pics to prove the success of your potatoes strategy, not just before and after pics of your overall weight loss (congrats on that by the way man).

                    Don't you have some pics (shirtless ?) of you before and after a potato fast ?

                    Thanks.
                    Young self-caring Paleo-eater from France.
                    (So please forgive the strange way I tend to express myself in your beautiful language )

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                    • Potato Power Day 2. Down one pound to 148. Haven't been under 150 in probably 12-15 years.

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                      • Originally posted by Daydreamer View Post
                        before and after pics of your overall weight loss
                        I had to go back to find Otzi's pics. Awesome job!!!!


                        Originally posted by Miss Understood View Post
                        Potato Power Day 2. Down one pound to 148. Haven't been under 150 in probably 12-15 years.
                        That is fantastic!!

                        DH, though not doing all tators, is down 3.4 this week. I have added more tators in his diet, less fat. He had white rice the previous two mornings. This morning I gave him steak (5oz) and 2 eggs. I told him he really should have about 4 eggs, and I just got "the look". THe look that says, "I have told you a million times I do not want to eat eggs because of high cholesterol! Are you purposely trying to kill me??!!" So I tried to nip that look in the bud, and I said again... "Eggs are good for you." and then I proceeded to say something I had not said before, which was..."how many years have you not eaten eggs and yet your cholesterol is STILL HIGH? It's not from eggs" Then I got a different look. A look of like.. "hmmmmm maybe she is on to something"
                        65lbs gone and counting!!

                        Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                        • Day two went well. Down another 1.5 this a.m. That's 4 lbs. in 2 days. Excellent! I had dinner last night at a Mexican place and opted for a double side of rice and some back beans. Ate all the rice, which tasted like it may have had some butter, lime and cilantro and about 2 spoonfuls of the beans. Delicious! I had a couple of red skins later in the evening with balsamic vinegar and ended up with some heartburn. Also some shin cramping, not that I know either are connected to the taters. I read that potatoes are higher in potassium than bananas, so the cramping surprised me.

                          gopintos - I've had that same conversation with my DH about eggs. Since I had WLS, my system is built differently and I can't absorb everything I eat. It also means I don't absorb calcium and vitamins A&D, so I do need to supplement. On the other hand, fats are my friend and I can eat all the bacon and eggs I want without any adverse effects. I was able to go off all my meds 3 weeks after my surgery do in part to better eating.

                          I plan on doing the potato feast until Monday at this point in time. Need to stop and get more taters after work.
                          Last edited by ginib; 10-26-2012, 09:24 AM.
                          Gini

                          SW - 273 - 2002 pre gastric bypass (BPD-DS)
                          SW - Aug. 2, 2011 - 178
                          SW - Nov 1, 2011 - 168.5
                          CW - 160
                          GW - 157
                          5' 6"
                          50 something female

                          Day 3 potato feast - down 5 lbs

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                          • So excited to start this on Monday! I am currently paleo but going to try my hand in the tater fast in order to lose the last stubborn 5lbs. Has anyone been taking measurements as well to monitor fat loss or has everyone just been weighing in on the scale? I am so curious to see how I will do on this as I am in ketosis right now.

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                            • I'm in on Monday. Feeling a little fluffy, and this is no time for a W30.
                              “Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” Rumi

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                              • Quick update:
                                Befor feast 134.2 lbs
                                Day 1: 133.4 lbs
                                Day 2: 130.6 lbs
                                Morning of day 3 potato feast:
                                morning weight 132.2 lbs (up 2 lbs from yesterday but still down 2 lbs from start) / Morning temp 98.3 degrees.
                                So not sure if it's just a glycogen water weight gain/ My normal water weight gain issues/ or that I put too much salt on my potatoes yesterday But I will keep going until Sunday and see what happens.

                                I ended up making 24 mini muffin potato bites which were so good my kids stole a few I dipped in spicy mustard. But i salted the taters quite a bit so probably made a big impact on the water weight gain.

                                I also made some sweet potato "waffles" dry fried and mixed with cinnamon. YUM!!!! It was kind of like a cinnamon roll without the crap and sugar


                                Primal_jessjane.....I forgot to answer your question on how long it took my temps to rise on the 1 meal a day eating. Honestly I don't journal them consistently so I don't know for sure. I usually just enter some here and there in my cell phone but take them a few times a day. But I do remember that they stayed pretty close to 97 degrees for about 1 week and then started climbing slowly from there. My losing was pretty consistent with the temps. I didn't lose much the first week then I started losing about 2 lbs a week.
                                F/37yr/5' 5"
                                SW: 154 March 2011
                                CW: 140 July to Oct 2011
                                PB: 145 gained 5lbs in first 4 months March to July 2012
                                With a combo of PB and IF-ing 5 days a week (1 x 1200 calorie meal per day) I have lost 15 lbs PB/IF = 130 lbs July 2012 to current
                                GW: 120
                                Ultimate Goals ar to be: Happy/ Fit/ Energetic/ Feel great/ Balanced/ cure my thyroid and adrenals

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