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  • I am use to IF, so everything I do is in a fasted state. So I have actually had more energy, or so it feels like it. I really have felt pretty darn good. Again I dont know if psychological, or it is because I have lots to get done for my trail ride Saturday, but twice on taters, I have ridden my horse for 6 hours (well an hour of catching, tacking, unsaddling, feeding, putting him up, putting tack up - and doing this for two horses yesterday) and the rest of the time, cutting brush, getting on & off to get gates, to haul trees off the path, etc. I havent got on & off my horse w/o a stump or wagon wheel for over 3 years! So I have really been feeling amazing!

    Now I am in manic house cleaning mode. Tomorrow will be windows and I have lots of windows and 7 sliding glass doors and about I dont know 60-70 feet of clear porch railing, like a plexiglass stuff almost, that will need both sides windexed. fun fun. Actually, I kind of am looking forward to it because I have not felt much like doing any exercise for quite some time. I was able to add tabata on my elliptical back in a few weeks ago, but that was when I added some carbs back in and was starting to cut the fat back out.
    65lbs gone and counting!!

    Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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    • Originally posted by mom5booklover View Post
      I think what Daydreamer was trying to say to gopintos was that eating 400 calories a day for 10 days can do serious damage to your matabolism. I agree.....you have to at least up your potato consumption so that you are eating in a more normal range of say 1000 to 1200 calories per day.
      I have heard mixed information on "starvation mode" especially with regards to long fasts, so w/o going there because I dont know enough, I will agree that instead of saying I had a range of 395 - 687, to which the 395 seems to be the focus, I should have said I had one day of 395, and one day of 512, one day of 621, & one day of 687. I just get full on taters, what can I say. I think one of the initial posts is that you will probably find you are about half of your normal calories.

      I might also add that the lowest day, was right after the highest day. Maybe I was just tatered out the next day IDK. Oh, you know what?!! The lowest tater day, was the day that I was out all day with my horse!! The first time that I did not pack a week's worth of food with me to go trail riding. I took two taters but did not eat them. Just drank my water. I remember that day (well it was just last Sunday) and it was an amazing day! I had more energy than I knew what to do with. But then again, my horse does that to me. Very therapeutic for me
      Last edited by gopintos; 10-10-2012, 03:16 PM.
      65lbs gone and counting!!

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      • Originally posted by gopintos View Post
        I have heard mixed information on "starvation mode" especially with regards to long fasts, so w/o going there because I dont know enough, I will agree that instead of saying I had a range of 395 - 687, to which the 395 seems to be the focus, I should have said I had one day of 395, and one day of 512, one day of 621, & one day of 687. I just get full on taters, what can I say. I think one of the initial posts is that you will probably find you are about half of your normal calories.
        On the Paleo lifestyle, I normally eat between 1000 - 1300 daily and that's a lot of food for me. On the Potato Project, I'd have to consume 2.5 lbs of potatoes to = the same # of carbs. I'm eating between 1.2 and 1.5lbs of potatoes a day and there's no way I can consume anymore. I am satiated and I can't eat another frick'in potato to save my life. It could be that I'm not walking or lifting this week due to work and school commitments. I will see how Friday, Sat and Sunday go when I have more available time to workout. I'm stuffed on 1.2-1.5 lbs of potatoes daily.
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        F, 48, 5'10"
        Start Date: 25-06-12 @ 161lbs
        Goal Reached: 30-09-12 @ 143lb. Now bouncing between 145lb - 149lb. I'd like less bounce and more consistency :-)

        Started Cross Fit 20.12.12 ---- Can't wait to submit my success story on the 1st anniversary of starting primal.

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        • Yes and obviously those are not exact numbers either as you are talking about nature with potatoes not a box with a label that tells you how many calories are in it. So you are right. You may be even higher or lower in calories than you have estimated. Most people I think actually under estimate when it comes to natural foods like potatoes.

          I IF 5 days per week as well. Only eating 1 x 1200 calorie meal per day. I know what you mean about feeling lots of energy. I have noticed lately though that my temperature is getting lower and lower. I have been IF-ing like this for about 3 months now. When I first started eating 1 x 1200 calorie meals per day I had a really high temp for me. 99 degrees farnheit when my norm was about 98 degrees upon waking. I take my temps often as I have thyroid issues and thats how I monitor them. So now my temps are around 97.6 degrees upon waking. I am excited to see what happens when I start the potato feast to see if my temp is back up with the influx of added carbs. I will probably not start until Sunday or Monday as I have too much going on right now but I will keep you all updated on temps and the potato feast and my weight etc...
          F/37yr/5' 5"
          SW: 154 March 2011
          CW: 140 July to Oct 2011
          PB: 145 gained 5lbs in first 4 months March to July 2012
          With a combo of PB and IF-ing 5 days a week (1 x 1200 calorie meal per day) I have lost 15 lbs PB/IF = 130 lbs July 2012 to current
          GW: 120
          Ultimate Goals ar to be: Happy/ Fit/ Energetic/ Feel great/ Balanced/ cure my thyroid and adrenals

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          • Originally posted by Louisa655 View Post
            On the Paleo lifestyle, I normally eat between 1000 - 1300 daily and that's a lot of food for me. On the Potato Project, I'd have to consume 2.5 lbs of potatoes to = the same # of carbs. I'm eating between 1.2 and 1.5lbs of potatoes a day and there's no way I can consume anymore. I am satiated and I can't eat another frick'in potato to save my life. It could be that I'm not walking or lifting this week due to work and school commitments. I will see how Friday, Sat and Sunday go when I have more available time to workout. I'm stuffed on 1.2-1.5 lbs of potatoes daily.
            I honestly don't have a clue how many potatoes I will be able to eat. The thought of eating 2.5 lbs sounds..........horrendous right now. Especially since I do the IF 5 days a week and am only used to 1 big meal a day. Oy.....But I will see what happens when I start the feast and go from there. I am just one of those people who is serious about metabolism and don't like to mess with it. Hence my temp obsession I will work on the 2.5 lbs of potatoes and let you know how that goes when I start the feast. I may be eating my shoe then If no other reason than to get rid of the potatoe taste
            F/37yr/5' 5"
            SW: 154 March 2011
            CW: 140 July to Oct 2011
            PB: 145 gained 5lbs in first 4 months March to July 2012
            With a combo of PB and IF-ing 5 days a week (1 x 1200 calorie meal per day) I have lost 15 lbs PB/IF = 130 lbs July 2012 to current
            GW: 120
            Ultimate Goals ar to be: Happy/ Fit/ Energetic/ Feel great/ Balanced/ cure my thyroid and adrenals

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            • Originally posted by mom5booklover View Post
              Yes and obviously those are not exact numbers either as you are talking about nature with potatoes not a box with a label that tells you how many calories are in it. So you are right. You may be even higher or lower in calories than you have estimated. Most people I think actually under estimate when it comes to natural foods like potatoes.

              I IF 5 days per week as well. Only eating 1 x 1200 calorie meal per day. I know what you mean about feeling lots of energy. I have noticed lately though that my temperature is getting lower and lower. I have been IF-ing like this for about 3 months now. When I first started eating 1 x 1200 calorie meals per day I had a really high temp for me. 99 degrees farnheit when my norm was about 98 degrees upon waking. I take my temps often as I have thyroid issues and thats how I monitor them. So now my temps are around 97.6 degrees upon waking. I am excited to see what happens when I start the potato feast to see if my temp is back up with the influx of added carbs. I will probably not start until Sunday or Monday as I have too much going on right now but I will keep you all updated on temps and the potato feast and my weight etc...

              I know that's right. At first, I was tracking it as a "small" potato, up to 2.5 inches I think it was. Then I found another tater in my tracker, to where I could weigh it out on my scale.

              I found also, that with fasting, my calories were low. Anywhere from 1000-1300. I was just full. It really just depended on how large my window was. If I ate once a day, I was on the low end. 5 hour window might be on the high end. And I was one hot mama all. the. time. All the damn time it seems haha. I would wake up on and off all night long, getting too hot. And I was tested. Not menopausal.

              Now, I am running colder. I have not been taking my temps, I just feel colder. Our weather has changed also and we did turn the heat on but not up all that high but I have definitely noticed a change in my temperature.

              I should add that DH likes that part. I don't freeze him out at night with the fans and open sliding door, and I snuggle more now, to get warm
              Last edited by gopintos; 10-10-2012, 03:36 PM.
              65lbs gone and counting!!

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              • I've eaten 4 potatoes at about 160 calories each so that's about 640 calories so far. If they were large potatoes (should have used a tape measure, eh?) then we're talking 1120 calories already. And the day's not done yet. Seems mighty easy to get plenty of calories from potatoes if you ask me.

                It's easy enough to run. Weekend before last I went out on a fasted run, no breakfast. I started at 10am and finished around 3pm. I don't know how many miles that was, but I never lost energy. That's what being a fat-burning beast is all about, right?

                But today I felt like a sugar-burning beast. I felt like I started to bonk part way through my 5 mile run. But then I recovered, so maybe I didn't totally kill my met-flex with one day of potatoes.

                My plan was to only do this today and tomorrow just as a test. So far I feel kinda weird and I'm not sure I like the way I feel, but I'm not starving, so that's a plus.
                Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                • Originally posted by mom5booklover View Post
                  I honestly don't have a clue how many potatoes I will be able to eat. The thought of eating 2.5 lbs sounds..........horrendous right now. Especially since I do the IF 5 days a week and am only used to 1 big meal a day. Oy.....But I will see what happens when I start the feast and go from there. I am just one of those people who is serious about metabolism and don't like to mess with it. Hence my temp obsession I will work on the 2.5 lbs of potatoes and let you know how that goes when I start the feast. I may be eating my shoe then If no other reason than to get rid of the potatoe taste
                  I IF 7 days per week normally. I eat 2 meals a day in a 6 hour window, and then fast for 18 hours without any issues at all. I've never had a problem with my metabolism (been thin my whole life and so has my mom, and every other member of my family). I'm not sure that my metabolism may be negatively affected by this 7 day fast, but that may be my naivety.

                  If you are able to eat 2.5lbs of potatoes daily, I will personally nominate you for the Super Spud Award -- a very distinguished Potato Project award, similar to the Darwinian Award.
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                  F, 48, 5'10"
                  Start Date: 25-06-12 @ 161lbs
                  Goal Reached: 30-09-12 @ 143lb. Now bouncing between 145lb - 149lb. I'd like less bounce and more consistency :-)

                  Started Cross Fit 20.12.12 ---- Can't wait to submit my success story on the 1st anniversary of starting primal.

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                  • Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                    I've eaten 4 potatoes at about 160 calories each so that's about 640 calories so far. If they were large potatoes (should have used a tape measure, eh?) then we're talking 1120 calories already. And the day's not done yet. Seems mighty easy to get plenty of calories from potatoes if you ask me.

                    It's easy enough to run. Weekend before last I went out on a fasted run, no breakfast. I started at 10am and finished around 3pm. I don't know how many miles that was, but I never lost energy. That's what being a fat-burning beast is all about, right?

                    But today I felt like a sugar-burning beast. I felt like I started to bonk part way through my 5 mile run. But then I recovered, so maybe I didn't totally kill my met-flex with one day of potatoes.

                    My plan was to only do this today and tomorrow just as a test. So far I feel kinda weird and I'm not sure I like the way I feel, but I'm not starving, so that's a plus.
                    I'm weighing my potatoes on a scale, (post-cooked), so I know exactly how many ounces I'm eating at every meal. I don't like guessing how many calories I'm taking in.
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                    F, 48, 5'10"
                    Start Date: 25-06-12 @ 161lbs
                    Goal Reached: 30-09-12 @ 143lb. Now bouncing between 145lb - 149lb. I'd like less bounce and more consistency :-)

                    Started Cross Fit 20.12.12 ---- Can't wait to submit my success story on the 1st anniversary of starting primal.

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                    • Originally posted by otzi View Post
                      I remember a few years ago making the comment that somebody needs to invent "People Chow". I would love to be able to buy a 50 pound bag of something crunchy that would have the perfect blend of vitamins and C-F-P that I could eat a couple bowls full a day and be guaranteed weightloss and health. They offer this for pets, why not people?

                      I find that when I commit to just potatoes, everything else is out of the question. It is so easy to justify that other half an avocado or that extra handful of almonds in day-to-day eating.
                      Would you eat it if it said -Made in China? Heheh. Frankly, the thought of people chow scares me, because NO ONE can make a food so complete that it can handle every single human need for nutrition. Even the average person is unique. But I hear you on scarfing up the last few bits of leftovers. Dry potatoes would most likely choke me before satiety was achieved, and I'd have no problem leaving any extra.

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                      • Originally posted by otzi
                        I think this community needs a way to lose 5-10lbs fairly quickly without drugs or surgery. All of the ideas I have seen touted around here for the last few years just don't work. IF, calorie restriction with primal foods, herbal supplements, cold water therapy, carb refeeds, ketogenic diets, etc...

                        These all work to some degree and when a person first switches from SAD to PB, fast weightloss is sometimes seen, but then slows to 1-2lbs a month, even though you are 10-20lbs from your goal. Here's where I get worried. I see people trying everything in the book and getting frustrated because after 6 mo of IF'ing, for instance, they are only 1 pound lighter for the massive effort.

                        There is something magic about the short term potato diet. Try eating 1000 calories of bacon or chicken breast a day for 10 days...you will be miserable. Same for leafy salads or brocolli. For most, the potatoes just don't get old, even after two weeks or more. This is your body telling you it is happy with what you are giving it. The potato is a 'whole' food. It has fat, carbs, and protein. All nicely packaged in a way your body can easily digest it.

                        If I would have tried this and been miserable and only lost 2 pounds in 2 weeks, I would have not given this a second thought. But I was fasting for 42 hours a week for 6 months and didn't lose any weight. Now that I have a magic reset button, any time I get 5 pounds over where I want to be, I can go on potatoes for 10 days and watch it disappear!
                        +1 on this posting. Maybe a quick fix is needed before a 30 year reunion, trip to the beach, pre-wedding, post divorce or any other event that requires a little fat-busting. I'd rather eat 10lbs of potatoes over a 5-day period for $2.00 versus pay a high-end spa $200 to wrap me in a fat-busting, mud and jellyfish wrap, with promises of a 1" loss on my thighs. Don't laugh -- check out high end spa menus!
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                        F, 48, 5'10"
                        Start Date: 25-06-12 @ 161lbs
                        Goal Reached: 30-09-12 @ 143lb. Now bouncing between 145lb - 149lb. I'd like less bounce and more consistency :-)

                        Started Cross Fit 20.12.12 ---- Can't wait to submit my success story on the 1st anniversary of starting primal.

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                        • Originally posted by otzi
                          4,699 calories composed of 108 grams of fat, 878g carbs, and 75g protein.
                          It all adds up! My tracker, I guess the fat was so low on a few ounces of tater that it didnt pick it up!!! Gonna have to fix that for next time!!
                          65lbs gone and counting!!

                          Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                          • Regarding some of the previous posts on running: I ran 13 miles on Monday without an energy issue. Granted, this was the first day of the potato fast. I had some potatoes prior to my run and afterwards as well. I felt perfectly fueled. But, this long run *might* be why I was eating so much compared to everyone else the last few days (day 1 - 1300, day 2 - 1450).

                            Today was another story. I've ended up with a grand total of 892 cals and had to really force down the last bites of potato on my plate (clean plate club strikes again!).

                            In response to some of the other posts about this not being healthy, YES I know long term this isn't healthy. But for a quick kick-in-the-butt I don't see an issue. I conscientiously chose to do this because I saw it as doable and thought, hey it might even work! And, I freely admit that as a 40+ yo mother of 4 that I'm willing to occassionally try something a little weird to get that kick-in-the-butt --- after all that's how some of us found the primal/paleo lifestyle to begin with.

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                            • There are a bunch of people mentioning how this isn't healthy long term (true), but I don't see anyone coming up with solution to that. So, more as a matter of interest, can we turn this is in to a balanced diet?

                              Let's look at the deficiencies of this diet:

                              For arguments sake lets assume you skin and bake 1.5kg of potatoes per day (Nutrition Facts and Analysis for Potatoes, baked, flesh, without salt), you would be deficient in:
                              Riboflavin, Pantothenic acid, Folate, Vit E, Calcium, Iron, Magnesium, Phosphorous, Zinc, Selenium and possibly Protein (depending on your size) and you would have no B12, Vit A and Vit D.

                              So add in a B-Complex tablet, now you are only missing: Vit's A, D, E, K, Calcium, Iron, Magnesium, Phosphorous, Zinc, Selenium and again maybe protein.

                              Add in 1 tbsp of Cod liver oil to take care of the Vit A and Vit D.

                              Anyone have suggestions to get adequate minerals without breaking the point of the potato fast? (I doubt the 14g of fat from 1 tbsp of cod liver oil would have too much effect).

                              Also had a question - when you say use salt sparingly, are you referring to regular table salt? or any salt (Himalayan Pink Salt), and if so, why?

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                              • Originally posted by cyro_349 View Post
                                you would be deficient in:
                                Riboflavin, Pantothenic acid, Folate, Vit E, Calcium, Iron, Magnesium, Phosphorous, Zinc, Selenium and possibly Protein (depending on your size) and you would have no B12, Vit A and Vit D.
                                I take many of those even when I have my regular intake. I did take some on one evening, and felt sort of semi not so great, but it passed. I took them early in the day today, with my first tater of the day.

                                But for a few days, I am okay with missing a few vitamins also. I mean shoot, I have missed them most every single day for the last 40+ years. (not saying that is a good thing, just a thing) I don't know how long it really takes you to be deficient A day, a week, a month? I really don't know. But I know that when some ppl do a full on fast, they do not supplement.
                                65lbs gone and counting!!

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