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    Hi Guys,

    Sorry in advance for the long post!

    I am very new to the Primal Blueprint and primal eating in general. I practice several martial arts and train approximately 5 to 6 days a week when I'm not injured - currently I am injured.

    Over the last few years I have eaten 'clean' and bulked up but then laziness, injuries and life in general have got in the way at different points and things have started to slide. I haven't been able to train properly for the last 7 months or so and as a result I've piled on the weight.

    I am 36 years old (male) 5 ft 10 inches and I currently weight 92kg (203lbs)

    I compete in BJJ and fight in the under 88kg category, ideally I would like to weight 85kg so that I don't have to cut weight before each tournament. My longer term goals would be to get down to about 80 - 82KG and give myself a chance to fight in the lower weight bracket.

    I am just now returning to light training and I have a competition in January that I am aiming to compete in. I'd like to have lost most of the weight by then if possible, but if I realise this may not be the case and I may have to roll with the big boys while I continue to lose weight!

    So after reading everything I could on this site I decided to try the Primal approach as it is quite similar to the eating patterns I have followed to cut weight in the past (albeit with a lot more fat). I have worked out some macros etc on fitday with a view to consuming between 2000 and 2300 calories per day, however I am not sure if I am getting everything I should be getting to eat 'proper primal'. I tried to stick to 100g of carbs (a little more as my training intensity will be ramping up) 50% of cals from fat and the rest protein but I just don't seem to be eating enough vegetables and etc.

    I supplement with a multi vit and omega 3 capsules.

    I was wondering if anyone could cast an eye over this and give me more informed view. Are my macros correct, ma I getting what I should be - should I forget about macros or calories and simplify? Any other idea/corrections/observations?

    I apologise if this is the wrong place and, again, for the length of this post. Many thanks in advance for any advice you can offer!

    Here is what I have come up with:
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    Last edited by tokyorose; 10-05-2012, 07:45 AM.

  • #2
    Welcome to the forum!

    Your attached pictures will probably take a day or so to get approved. If you want faster feedback, use imageshack, photobucket, or something like that and then post those pictures. From your description it sounds like you're doing pretty good though.


    • #3
      Hi Yodiewan,

      thanks for the welcome and the advice! I have attached images from photobucket.

      All help is greatly appreciated!


      • #4
        Originally posted by tokyorose View Post
        I have worked out some macros etc on fitday with a view to consuming between 2000 and 2300 calories per day
        I'm 5'11" and had to drop to 1800ish calories a day to lose about 1lb per week. Mind you, I haven't been strictly primal (apart from grains) so weight loss has not been as quick as others have experienced.
        Why use a sledge hammer to crack a nut when a steam roller is even more effective, and, is fun to drive.


        • #5
          Which program are you using calculate all those figures?


          • #6

            So you think it would be best to reduce my overall calorie intake to 1800?


            The macros etc are from Fitday, the calorie intake is from freedieting it claims that 2000 to 2300 calories per day will see steady weight loss.

            I should say that in May I cut 6kg in 3 weeks for a tournament by cutting all carbs and eating greens with a single chicken breast per day - although that was a little too fast and I didn't feel particularly strong or full of energy, something I want to try and avoid this time around!

            Thanks again


            • #7
              What strikes me about your list of foods is that several entries aren't really food. If you're really wanting to be fully primal, skip the "scoop of" stuff, as this is not natural. Instead, replace with actual food to get more vitamins and minerals into your diet.


              • #8
                Hi Teach,

                Yes, ideally I would do away with the protein powder and veggy powder and replace these with proper food but I have kept these for now as they form my breakfast and pre and post workout meals - I have trouble eating in the mornings and I've found that a shake with flax oil goes down much easier. For the pre and post workout it's just more convenient than taking food with me.

                There's also the issue of the sheer cost of good meat and organic food, unfortunately powder works out cheaper than the good stuff...

                However I will try to perform the switch and see how I get on (although I may have to stick with a shake for breakfast as I have so much trouble getting food down my neck).

                Thanks again for the advice


                • #9
                  Add some eggs for inexpensive great protein, they are real food and boiled eggs are easy to take with you for i.e. lunch


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tokyorose View Post
                    I have trouble eating in the mornings
                    Then don't eat. A big thing that Mark advocates is eating WHEN - when hunger ensues naturally. No need to force yourself to eat when not hungry just because it's morning.


                    • #11
                      Your biggest problem is that you are trying TOO hard. Seriously!

                      You seem to be forcing yourself to eat, even when you aren't hungry. In my opinion, simplify, simplify, simplify. Just eat what your body thinks is yummy when your body thinks it's yummy and guess what? You'll do great.

                      The whole "eating constantly to rev up metabolism" is an old CW myth you don't really need to worry about I'd say.

                      You've already ditched most of the junk foods so you're on the right track!

                      Oh, and one last thing... Why is that chicken thigh skinless?
                      "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."


                      • #12
                        Very true, up to now I've eaten every three hours on the dot (I actually have an alarm set to remind me!) as I've always been told that this revs up your metabolism but also keeps you fueled up for heavy exercise.

                        Should I abandon this completely and just eat when hungry or should I keep some sort of routine in terms of meals - such as ensuring that I always eat an afternoon meal? How should this reflect in pre and post workout?

                        One of the reasons I eat powder is that I find it hard and inconvenient to eat real food before and after training but I have always been told that I MUST take the right fuels in before and after training.

                        HAH! I didn't even notice that the chicken thigh was skinless - just goes to show how programmed I am to remove all fat etc from my diet - a habit I need to break!

                        Thanks again for the advice


                        • #13
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