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    My wife was recently diagnosed with high cholesterol and pre- diabetes. Today her Dr gave her a pamphlet on food guidelines. Here are some of the foods to avoid; bacon, butter, coconut and coconut oil, avocados, nuts, fatty meats , egg yolks, whole milk. Here are the list of acceptable foods. Egg substitute (because I'm sure Grok found little cartons of egg beaters in the wild), soft margarine, vegetable oil, high fiber grains like oats and whole wheat and fat free milk. Thus proving once and for all that my Dr is an absolute moron. I'll bet she would recommend a carton of cigarettes to a patient with lung cancer. When is the medical community going to get with the program

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    Margarine? MARGARINE?????

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    • #3
      I think the idea that policy only changes with death is quite true in these instances. Gonna take quite a few more deaths of the "leaders" that headed the whole low fat fake food craze before real reform can take hold in the medical or political (as if you could separate em) arena.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Moll View Post
        Margarine? MARGARINE?????
        Yeah, even my doctor said no to margarine! And she is definitely an effing moron!

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        • #5
          Conventional wisdom at its finest.

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          • #6
            I went to the local QuickCare last week for a cough that just wasn't going away. (Yes, as a matter of fact, I have been eating like crap lately - why do you ask?)

            In the waiting room was a big poster announcing free classes to learn about weight loss surgery. Then, in the examining area, there were a bunch of posters discussing Type II diabetes and how to avoid it. There weren't any other posters about any other diseases, just obesity and diabetes.

            Sad that this is pretty much the focus of our general medicine lately.

            To their credit, though the surgery poster pissed me off, the diabetes posters did mention eating right without getting into the whole grain bullshit. I don't think they're suggesting eating Primal, but at least they're not pushing the Triscuits.
            Durp.

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            • #7
              Sadly, most Doctors push this terrible advice because they don't think for themselves.

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              • #8
                I eat and have eaten everything on that "do not eat" list. I was diagnosed diabetic in nov. of 2010, this august doctor said I am no longer diabetic.

                Obviously, something is wrong LOL.

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                • #9
                  Ugh... unfortunately doctors aren't given many lessons in nutrition!

                  I know one sad case of a kid who's just turned 13 and is overweight. He has some sort of liver disease, and his doctors have prescribed him a FAT FREE diet (like... REALLY fat free...he must only get a miniscule amount of fat) and yet, the kid keeps gaining weight (he's also growing very fast and is very tall for his age). The doctors basically accuse his mum of letting him cheat because he's NOT LOSING WEIGHT. They want him to have weight loss surgery . ARGH if only I could explain primal to them... I just don't think they'd be receptive, as it's the opposite of what they've learned.

                  Fortunately some doctors are learning how to achieve real health... but others are fully on the CW bandwagon.

                  I was also reading a magazine the other day with the old "margarine vs butter" debate. Let's say it was VERY VERY SAD. I almost threw the stupid thing across the room. Margarine ISN'T EVEN FOOD!!!

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                  • #10
                    Why is this moron still your doctor then? It's common knowledge that margarine is bad for you, even to regular M.D's. If this doc can't even bother to follow that research, it's time to find a new doctor.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Moll View Post
                      Margarine? MARGARINE?????
                      Bloody margarine !!!! We have this grok versus korg thing going on in my house - and I just found a margarine pottle in the fridge full of mould !!!!! and someone has been eating it !!!!!!!!
                      SAD
                      "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                      ...small steps....

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                      • #12
                        eating moldy margarine is just. . . bizarre.

                        anyway, we go through this with the old ILs. we explained to them over a decade ago the science around butter vs margarine, but they still buy shit-loads of margarine because "it's good for baking and makes things low fat!" and MIL bakes a lot for church events (and then, of course, eats these things), and then "it's easier to spread on bread." So, they only eat it when they eat baked goods or on breads. *face palm* which means they rarely eat butter but will "sometimes" cook with it.

                        Now that we do our IF thing (and we're planning on continuing for the next three months -- so when they are here -- they'll be brekkie on their own, and we'll probably get the cereal/milk and instant oatmeal and whatever bread and margarine or something (or those olive oil spreads), and then we'll do lunch/dinner with them -- primal with whatever additions they want (probably rolls/bread with margarine).

                        But, DS wants to do pizza twice with them: first at bowling, and then second at their place for dinner (or our place for dinner). So, we will be breaking our primal twice on holiday. And, we'll probably do a pav on christmas day.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                          But, DS wants to do pizza twice with them: first at bowling, and then second at their place for dinner (or our place for dinner). So, we will be breaking our primal twice on holiday. And, we'll probably do a pav on christmas day.
                          Because thinking of two DIFFERENT meals and/or actually cooking is too much to ask?
                          "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                          • #14
                            nah Zoebird - you so don't have to eat pizza. Organise a BAS and some meat on that night....... Gwamma said just do it ! And you so need to do what Gwamma says !!! ok....good
                            "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                            ...small steps....

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jkr View Post
                              Why is this moron still your doctor then? It's common knowledge that margarine is bad for you, even to regular M.D's. If this doc can't even bother to follow that research, it's time to find a new doctor.
                              Is it though? Most people know that the old margarine made with trans fats is bad for you, but the "new" margarine is all natural made with healthy vegetable oils and able to lower your cholesterol!! (At least, this is how it's being portrayed ). I think a lot of people are still under the sad delusion that it's "good" for you.

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