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  • #16
    Just a thought - but way back in the day......as in caveman times........the food that was ingested would have to have been more nutrient dense than today??????? wouldn't it ????? so todays foods might just be totally different ???
    just wondring !
    "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

    ...small steps....

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    • #17
      Originally posted by NZ primal Gwamma View Post
      Just a thought - but way back in the day......as in caveman times........the food that was ingested would have to have been more nutrient dense than today??????? wouldn't it ????? so todays foods might just be totally different ???
      just wondring !
      This is very likely the case. It doesn't mean that we can't, or shouldn't, be on the lookout for a way to get our entire RDA of nutrients daily. In fact, it probably means that this is even MORE important.
      "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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      • #18
        Isn't
        Step 1: acquire beef liver
        Step 2: Fill in the gaps
        Step 3: Profit??
        Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

        Griff's cholesterol primer
        5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
        Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
        TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
        bloodorchid is always right

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        • #19
          My friend did this through most of her pregnancy and for the year that she breast fed. She also took prenatal vitamins, but tried to get her rda of micro nutrients outside of the vitamins. She is primal... she's not on this forum, but she is the one who introduced me to MDA She said it could be very challenging. I don't think she was too strict on the calories though.... she's one of those people who can eat whatever she wants and not gain an ounce anyway though... lucky girl

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          • #20
            Originally posted by peril View Post
            The problem usually isn't too little calcium but malfunction of the calcium metabolism due to other deficiencies. Vitamins D, A and K are key here, along with magnesium and zinc. Vit D, K, Mg and Zn are often deficient. Sun, fermented food and seafood are the key. Vitamin D is so important here that the common paleo recommendations to supplement it at much greater rates than the RDA need to be counterbalanced by monitoring of calcium as it can cause an overload
            So are you saying that a calcium supplement is also needed for proper absorption of vitamin d. Maybe I'm not understanding what one truly needs in terms of supplements in order to be as healthy as possible. I thought paleo brings you as close to being healthy without needing too many vitamins from pills.

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            • #21
              8 oz smoked oysters (2 cans)
              8 oz chicken livers
              2 oz almonds
              1/4 of a yellow bell pepper (Vit C)
              3 oz swiss cheese
              1397 Calories, 87g Fat, 38g tot carbs, 116g Protein

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Lukey View Post
                Not us all of us have the luxury of living in a place like Arizona, it's never sunny in Ireland! Haha. I need all the vitamin D I can get
                LOL Living in South Texas, I dont worry too much about Vitamin D. Going outside in the summer makes me think of that scene in Wall-e where he flies past the sun on his way to the Axiom and his power bar fills up in about 2 seconds. I always think of my little Vitamin D bar maxing out just walking from the door to the car. Even today...it was in the low 90s. Of course, Ireland has got to be much prettier than South Texas...I envy you...
                It's just another day in paradise
                As you stumble to your bed
                You'd give anything to silence
                Those voices ringing in your head
                You thought you could find happiness
                Just over that green hill
                You thought you would be satisfied
                But you never will-
                Learn to be still
                -The Eagles

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                • #23
                  8 oz smoked oysters (2 cans)
                  8 oz chicken livers
                  2 oz almonds
                  1/4 of a yellow bell pepper (Vit C)
                  3 oz swiss cheese
                  1397 Calories, 87g Fat, 38g tot carbs, 116g Protein

                  This hits them all. I use FitDay.com's nutrient calculator. If you every have an off day, eat a couple cans of smoked oysters--puts you way up there in most nutrients.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by otzi View Post
                    8 oz smoked oysters (2 cans)
                    8 oz chicken livers
                    2 oz almonds
                    1/4 of a yellow bell pepper (Vit C)
                    3 oz swiss cheese
                    1397 Calories, 87g Fat, 38g tot carbs, 116g Protein

                    This hits them all. I use FitDay.com's nutrient calculator. If you every have an off day, eat a couple cans of smoked oysters--puts you way up there in most nutrients.
                    You win the thread. Have a.... piece of jerky. Or some dark chocolate. Your choice.
                    Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                    Griff's cholesterol primer
                    5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                    Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                    TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                    bloodorchid is always right

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                      You win the thread. Have a.... piece of jerky. Or some dark chocolate. Your choice.
                      FitDay's nutrient calculator is missing several nutrients I think. Not that I'm saying you're wrong about this but I'd be curious to check on the nutrients not ithe FitDay calculator that still have an RDA.
                      "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by cayla29s View Post
                        So are you saying that a calcium supplement is also needed for proper absorption of vitamin d. Maybe I'm not understanding what one truly needs in terms of supplements in order to be as healthy as possible. I thought paleo brings you as close to being healthy without needing too many vitamins from pills.
                        No, quite the opposite. Supplementing Vit D (which I do at 5000IU/day) renders calcium supplementation unnecessary, perhaps even detrimental
                        Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

                        Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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                        • #27
                          I was about to say, I almost do this every day. Oysters and liver are on the menu at least twice a week, and I eat rose hips when they're in season for the vitD, but have to supplement in winter. Those photo-flash mushrooms are supposedly a valid source of vitamin D, so I do eat those somewhat regularly, too. Add animal fats, nuts, eggs, avocado and that's most of what a body needs right there.
                          Crohn's, doing SCD

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                          • #28
                            I'm trying to get myself to learn to love seafood. I figure that would be the balancing piece for me.

                            That being said, I assume I get everything I need from food because I never supplement and never have (not even during pregnancy). And, I'm healthy as a horse (or ox) or whatever.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                              I'm trying to get myself to learn to love seafood. I figure that would be the balancing piece for me.

                              That being said, I assume I get everything I need from food because I never supplement and never have (not even during pregnancy). And, I'm healthy as a horse (or ox) or whatever.
                              Seafood would definitely help out a lot. I think sea vegetables like seaweed and the like are nutritional powerhouses in addition.
                              "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                              • #30
                                I'm no fan of seafood or sea veggies. it's either too fishy or too salty for my tastes. lol

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