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    I'm sure this is explained somewhere on here, but I didn't find much through the search function...My question is, why do we eliminate cheese from the diet? I understand some people may not tolerate dairy very well, but I used to drink a TON of milk as a kid, so maybe i'm slightly more tolerant. Is it safe to continue eating cheese?


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    A lot of people are sensitive to the protein casein, which is in dairy products.


    If you're not sensitive, and you're not looking to lose weight, then having it a couple times a week should be all right for you.

    You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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      Hmm, well I hope I'm not sensitive to casein, because I supplement it in powder form as well. I'm trying to gain some mass before I cut late April, but I definitely don't want to be packing on more fat than I need to. It might be a problem though because I eat cheese with eggs and broccoli very frequently throughout the week. Probably upwards of 12 meals.

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        It seems that as long as your insulin is under control, it's tough to put on fat eating cheese and other dairy with minimal lactose. However, it seems that when you get within about 20 pounds of your goal body fat percentage, eating any kind of dairy puts a stop to fat loss.

        You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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          I think it depends how processed the cheese is and if you tolerate dairy.


          In my case I havent eliminate it from my diet, all though I only eat organic, hand made cheese.


          My weight loss has not decreased..

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            I love my cream cheese, nuts and dried fruit for breakfast!


            I'm not very big any more, 129 lbs at 5'3". I lost a honeymoon swoosh of 6 pounds in about three weeks and then my weight loss slowed.

            I didn't really think much of it, because I'm close to my CW goal weight. Maybe I should skip my cheese for a couple of days

            Cheese is convenient but not necessary for me.

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              Sometimes you don't know you're intolerant to something until you cut it out for a while and then reintroduce it to your diet. If I eat cheese and cream all the time and then don't have it for a few weeks, when I eat it again I will get massive stomach pains. It's odd, but it seems if you are intolerant to something and eat it all the time you might not get many symptoms from it. Not saying you are intolerant, but you might want to try this to make sure.

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                Do you have any symptoms that would indicate you are intolerant to something you are eating? If you feel fine then then I don't think enjoying some cheese is a major problem. But then again I love cheese so I'm biased Raw and organic would probably be best.

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                  Well, I never used to eat cheese, because I was always able to get enough calories in through other nutrients...I've been eating a high protein diet for the past 4 years, since I consider myself to be an amateur bodybuilder :P but I'm only recently really trimming down the carbs, for aesthetic and health purposes. So since I've just recently introduced cheese into my diet, and haven't experienced any intolerance or sickness of any kind, is it safe to say I'm ok with it?


                  I also noticed that most cheeses I've found so far contain 0.4g trans fats per 30g serving. Is this something I should worry about?

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                    "it seems that when you get within about 20 pounds of your goal body fat percentage, eating any kind of dairy puts a stop to fat loss."


                    PrimalChild, why is this? I eat cheese pretty much daily. I am not allergic to casein per allergy test or personal experience. Are you referring to the natural sugars (lactose) in milk? Or something with the casein itself?

                    I'm a quitter...but I'm back now.

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                      I'm not sure why it is, but a lot of people seem to experience this. The lactose in milk and cream would probably play some part. But cheeses have little to no lactose.


                      My totally unscientific suspicion is that there is something in dairy that helps a young mammal retain stores of body fat until it's mature enough to fend for itself. It's really not intended for adult consumption.

                      You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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                        Some people don't digest casein very well (me being one of those), but I find that eating a bit of cheese every day doesn't really do anything. It's only when I drink a lot of milk that I can feel the effects.


                        I'd say that cheese is fine in reasonable amounts for most people. Just don't, you know. Eat an entire package of the stuff.

                        Remember, you are unique just like everybody else.

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                          You have a good point. I know that when I was eating cheese, I was eating it pretty much every day.

                          You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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                            According to Dr. Atkins, it's OK to eat cheese because it doesn't spike your insulin. That's my excuse, anyway.

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                              Originally posted by dan.desroches View Post
                              I also noticed that most cheeses I've found so far contain 0.4g trans fats per 30g serving. Is this something I should worry about?
                              Cheese surely shouldn't have any artificial trans fat in it; as a dairy product it probably contains some CLA, which is a naturally occurring and healthy "trans" fat. I wasn't sure whether that was counted on labels (where I live, trans fat isn't included in nutritional information labels at all) but it must be unless they're adding something dodgy to your cheese...

                              Anyway on topic, I enjoy cheese every so often, and tend to go for quality over quantity: I'll get good cheese (raw if I can, although it can be hard to find) and eat less of it. It's a good way to "fill in the gaps" of my calorie intake as I'm a tall guy and trying to put on a bit of bulk so my requirements are fairly high. I reckon in a month or two I'll try to cut a bit and I'll also cut out dairy products then and see if it has a positive effect.
                              Last edited by gazb; 03-31-2010, 02:11 AM.

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