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  • Why can't I eat ham!?!?!

    Hi,

    I am new to being primal and just bought the e-book last night. I read the whole thing and, unless I am mistaken, it said to eliminate ham from my diet but I don't remember reading why. I am wondering if there is something in it that will make my insulin levels too high (not a sugar ham but just a regular smoked ham), or if it is the curing process and the chemicals involved?

    The same question goes for sliced lunch meats.

    please advise, thanks
    Last edited by TOOMBS; 10-03-2012, 01:18 PM. Reason: *clarifying type of ham
    Height 6'5"
    Heaviest weight: 320 lbs
    Starting primal: 275 lbs Oct 1, 2012
    Current weight: 236 lbs Jan 14
    Short term goal: 230 lbs Jan 31
    Long term: 210 by March?


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  • #2
    Sugar, nitrates, and nitrates would be my very first guess. The sugars is processed meats are going to keep your insulin on a rollercoater, and the nitrates and nitrites (and msg, and whatever other 'yummies' they put in them) are bad news for your health.
    Misti
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    ~100% primal (because anything less makes me very sick)
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    • #3
      I didn't realize that sugar was added to smoked hams. I realize that nitrates are bad but I am really just concerned with keeping insulin low at this initial jumping off point.

      thanks for the input
      Height 6'5"
      Heaviest weight: 320 lbs
      Starting primal: 275 lbs Oct 1, 2012
      Current weight: 236 lbs Jan 14
      Short term goal: 230 lbs Jan 31
      Long term: 210 by March?


      Journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread67022.html

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      • #4
        I don't think the sugars are very significant, nor are the nitrates.

        But then again, when I hit a plateau and I stopped eating things with "hidden" corn syrup and nitrates I started losing weight again. Coincidence?

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        • #5
          I'm thinking it probably isn't a coincidence, youmustvotenato.

          Sugar is a required part of the processing of many meats - -I have to use it when I corn our beef, too. The catch is that it generally isn't the higher quality, nourishing sugars they use in commercail processing. That's why I corn our beef and am working on a smoker so I can make our own hams.
          Misti
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          Grain Free since 2009, WP from 2005
          ~100% primal (because anything less makes me very sick)
          Goal: hike across Sweden with my grandchildren when I retire in a few years

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          • #6
            Gah! I have one in the oven now.... Ham is like my favorite
            Height 6'5"
            Heaviest weight: 320 lbs
            Starting primal: 275 lbs Oct 1, 2012
            Current weight: 236 lbs Jan 14
            Short term goal: 230 lbs Jan 31
            Long term: 210 by March?


            Journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread67022.html

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TOOMBS View Post
              Gah! I have one in the oven now.... Ham is like my favorite
              Enjoy your ham, then go read up on the effects of nitrites/nitrates/etc. I found it easier to drop foods after reading about the effects. If your body drops weight afterwards, then it may be the issue.

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              • #8
                I have a slice of ham at work every now and then. I work at a Cracker Barrel and our ham is yummy! I try not to that often though.

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                • #9
                  I love ham, too -- but we save it for special occasions, and starting next time, we'll be turning a pork roast into a ham at home to see if we can make an acceptable compromise.
                  Misti
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                  Grain Free since 2009, WP from 2005
                  ~100% primal (because anything less makes me very sick)
                  Goal: hike across Sweden with my grandchildren when I retire in a few years

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                  • #10
                    Is nitrite free ham not acceptable?

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                    • #11
                      I've had nitrate (or nitrite?) free bacon. It had nitrates (or nitrites) from celery salt or celery or something. I wonder if that is just as bad.

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                      • #12
                        A ham is just a cut of meat off the hog correct? We buy ours direct from the butcher, and I don't think it has any of this bad stuff added. I understand where smoking, salting, sugaring etc could be bad, but just a plain ham.....should be ok right?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by shep68 View Post
                          A ham is just a cut of meat off the hog correct? We buy ours direct from the butcher, and I don't think it has any of this bad stuff added. I understand where smoking, salting, sugaring etc could be bad, but just a plain ham.....should be ok right?
                          A "fresh ham" is just a hunk of raw meat and is perfectly okay.
                          I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                          • #14
                            I hate ham!! Where I grew up we always ate ham after funerals - the association is burned in to me!

                            In general, though, I think the whole "don't let perfect be the enemy of good" applies here. Have some ham here and there if you would like, but it is a bit too processed to make it daily staple IMHO.
                            Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

                            http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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                            • #15
                              TOOMBS, maybe next time try a nice pork belly next time. Since I tried pork belly, I no longer crave/want ham...

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