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  • Originally posted by mostofthetime7 View Post
    "Don’t take this as blanket approval for immediate regular rice consumption, however. It’s not black and white. Rice exists on one end of the “grain suitability” continuum. You know how I’ve discussed the dairy continuum? Raw, grass-fed one on end and low-fat, homogenized, ultra-pasteurized on the other. It’s the same for grains. High-gluten wheat on one (very bad) end and rice on the other (don’t lose sleep if you eat it) end. Do I recommend ditching the entire group altogether, just to make things easy and avoid any possible irritants? Sure, but if grain consumption presents itself, or you literally are hamstrung by finances and simply need some calories, you shouldn’t beat yourself up over it just because you ate some white rice.

    Read more: Is Rice Unhealthy? | Mark's Daily Apple

    all he says is its not as bad as some other things, not that its good
    "it’s the essential neutrality of rice that makes it what it is."

    he also says that you shouldn't beat yourself up over eating some. which means you shouldn't beat people up over eating something that is essentially neautral.

    again, just because low carb is working for you now, doesn't mean that it works for everyone and doesn't mean it will work for you a year from now. trust me on that one. i know from experience.

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    • Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
      "it’s the essential neutrality of rice that makes it what it is."

      he also says that you shouldn't beat yourself up over eating some. which means you shouldn't beat people up over eating something that is essentially neautral.

      again, just because low carb is working for you now, doesn't mean that it works for everyone and doesn't mean it will work for you a year from now. trust me on that one. i know from experience.
      Oh my bad I didnt realize that you asked that question, lol.

      Just because you did low carb wrong doesn't mean it can't work for everyone

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      • i love how you make assumptions about what i did and didn't do. i didn't do low carb wrong. in fact i was hardcore low carb for nearly a year until i bonked. when you work out with bigboy weights, do lots of mountain biking, hiking, play sports, box, kayak, run sprints, etc, you need some extra carbs in your diet. i'm sure that if i came in here 50lbs overweight, and was sedentary, then low carb would be perfect for me. or if i wasn't that active. it worked for a while, and then it didn't.

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        • Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
          i love how you make assumptions about what i did and didn't do. i didn't do low carb wrong. in fact i was hardcore low carb for nearly a year until i bonked. when you work out with bigboy weights, do lots of mountain biking, hiking, play sports, box, kayak, run sprints, etc, you need some extra carbs in your diet. i'm sure that if i came in here 50lbs overweight, and was sedentary, then low carb would be perfect for me. or if i wasn't that active. it worked for a while, and then it didn't.
          Yep you did it wrong. You need to rest and give yourself a chance to adapt.

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          • Okay. I had to dig to the back of a bottom cabinet to find it but I have here a bag of generic white rice.

            serving size: 1/4 cup uncooked (makes ~ 3/4 cup cooked)
            calories: 150
            Fat: 0 grams
            Protein: 3 grams
            Carbs: 35 grams

            Going by Mark's Carb Curve:

            0-50 gms carb: probable ketosis. It fits if you keep it to one serving as described above.

            If you double the serving size (so 70 grams of carbs), it fits into the next part of the curve. 50-100 gms of carb that is described as the "weight loss sweet spot."

            So as far as carb amounts, white rice fits into the parameters for weight loss - if you very much watch the rest of your carb intake for the day.

            It's not nutritionally great, so for people who have to eat calorically low, it's kind of a waste of calories when 150-300 calories of brightly colored veggies and certainly 150-300 calories of healthily raised meat or wild fish would nourish you more.

            No matter the rationale, it's a grain.

            So, in response to the original question... There are a lot of people here who know a ton about nutrition. There are a lot of people here who blindly follow the health guru of the month. There are a lot of people somewhere on that continuum. So, I guess some are and some aren't.

            As for abrasive know it alls, this was addressed in a management class I took. They can often be fonts of info. Just sift through the bullshit and ego.
            "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

            B*tch-lite

            Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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            • Originally posted by mostofthetime7 View Post
              Yep you did it wrong. You need to rest and give yourself a chance to adapt.
              i didn't do anything wrong. i lead an active lifestyle. that's who i am. i ate low carb paleo for about a year. i went through the whole low carb flu. lasted about 3 weeks for me. i did adapt. i was on top of the world. felt great. then i bonked. eating low carb, despite eating roughly 3500 calories a day, wasn't supporting my energy needs. i'm not going to stop doing the things i love to do, just because part of the paleo crows thinks that low-carb is the way to live. so i added in sweet potatoes, potatoes, white rice, and little more fruit. and i've been going strong for well over a year now. i don't eat high carb every day, only on days that are super high intensity. and it works for me. and countless others in the paleo community who aren't here for weight loss. white rice 2-3 times per week truly isn't the end of the world. i'm sorry you think it is

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              • Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                Okay. I had to dig to the back of a bottom cabinet to find it but I have here a bag of generic white rice.

                serving size: 1/4 cup uncooked (makes ~ 3/4 cup cooked)
                calories: 150
                Fat: 0 grams
                Protein: 3 grams
                Carbs: 35 grams

                Going by Mark's Carb Curve:

                0-50 gms carb: probable ketosis. It fits if you keep it to one serving as described above.

                If you double the serving size (so 70 grams of carbs), it fits into the next part of the curve. 50-100 gms of carb that is described as the "weight loss sweet spot."

                So as far as carb amounts, white rice fits into the parameters for weight loss - if you very much watch the rest of your carb intake for the day.

                It's not nutritionally great, so for people who have to eat calorically low, it's kind of a waste of calories when 150-300 calories of brightly colored veggies and certainly 150-300 calories of healthily raised meat or wild fish would nourish you more.

                No matter the rationale, it's a grain.

                So, in response to the original question... There are a lot of people here who know a ton about nutrition. There are a lot of people here who blindly follow the health guru of the month. There are a lot of people somewhere on that continuum. So, I guess some are and some aren't.

                As for abrasive know it alls, this was addressed in a management class I took. They can often be fonts of info. Just sift through the bullshit and ego.
                Why would you use up your carbs on something like white rice when you could be eating veggies and fruit with more nutrients?

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                • if you are following mark's book, then "use up your carbs" pertains to someone who is here for weightloss. lots of us here aren't on this forum for that purpose. for some reason, people just don't understand that paleo/primal is NOT a low carb diet

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                  • Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                    i didn't do anything wrong. i lead an active lifestyle. that's who i am. i ate low carb paleo for about a year. i went through the whole low carb flu. lasted about 3 weeks for me. i did adapt. i was on top of the world. felt great. then i bonked. eating low carb, despite eating roughly 3500 calories a day, wasn't supporting my energy needs. i'm not going to stop doing the things i love to do, just because part of the paleo crows thinks that low-carb is the way to live. so i added in sweet potatoes, potatoes, white rice, and little more fruit. and i've been going strong for well over a year now. i don't eat high carb every day, only on days that are super high intensity. and it works for me. and countless others in the paleo community who aren't here for weight loss. white rice 2-3 times per week truly isn't the end of the world. i'm sorry you think it is
                    If your doing so good why are you so defensive?

                    Like I said, there is multiple stages to low carb flu, you just didn't realize that so you went running back to your carbs.

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                    • Originally posted by mostofthetime7 View Post
                      Why would you use up your carbs on something like white rice when you could be eating veggies and fruit with more nutrients?
                      I wouldn't. That's why it was in the back of a bottom cabinet. But that wasn't the question.

                      If I look back 10 days, I've averaged <35 gms carb/day. No room in there for rice if I want nourishment. I also eat between 750 and 1700 calories per day. Again, I don't have room for the empty eats.

                      But I think some very smart people here occasionally indulge in rice. I don't think they are delusional.
                      "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                      B*tch-lite

                      Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                      • Originally posted by mostofthetime7 View Post
                        If your doing so good why are you so defensive?

                        Like I said, there is multiple stages to low carb flu, you just didn't realize that so you went running back to your carbs.
                        not defensive at all

                        yeah, running back to carbs. a year later. you clearly are in your own little world. good luck to you and your low carb experiment.

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                        • Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                          not defensive at all

                          yeah, running back to carbs. a year later. you clearly are in your own little world. good luck to you and your low carb experiment.
                          A year filled with chronic cardio.

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                          • Originally posted by mostofthetime7 View Post
                            A year filled with chronic cardio.
                            actually no. its called living life. way too much paralysis by analysis gong on here. let's see.. its a nice day. should i go for a bike ride or sit on my couch ? gonna take the bike ride every time. i feel sorry for people who would choose not to do activities like hiking, biking, kayaking for fear of it being chronic cardio

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                            • Originally posted by mostofthetime7 View Post
                              Of course i don't own the world.

                              If im so wrong why is everyone getting so antsy?

                              When your health is perfect like mine, you just laugh at people like you because if you were really confident in your beliefs you wldnt find the need to tear down opposing opinions.
                              When my health is perfect like yours?

                              Did you heal/are you healing a serious brain disease... if not you can seriously GFYS.
                              I don't give one flying fuck about "ripped".
                              "Ripped"=/= health and never has.
                              Good lord.

                              Also I did not "tear down [any] opposing opinion".
                              Are you so full of yourself that you are illiterate?
                              Rice does not work for me, as I stated.
                              And people here are not arguing that what you do isn't "right for YOU", they are just stating that other things work for other people.

                              But it does for some people.
                              Including that freakishly ripped, gizzard assed, dude that won the body building competition that I posted a picture of.
                              I dare say that he is more ripped than you... and "knows lots" about nutrition and how to stack on muscle.


                              Pompous illiteracy... that's what people are responding to all "antsy", just so ya know.

                              Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                              To the OP, you remind me of the type of guy who thinks being a sensitive lover means there's a lot of sensitivity in your penis.
                              Priceless SB!
                              Makes me think, Careless and QUICK! LOL
                              Last edited by cori93437; 10-03-2012, 11:23 AM.
                              “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                              ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                              And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                              • Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                                actually no. its called living life. way too much paralysis by analysis gong on here. let's see.. its a nice day. should i go for a bike ride or sit on my couch ? gonna take the bike ride every time. i feel sorry for people who would choose not to do activities like hiking, biking, kayaking for fear of it being chronic cardio
                                Outdoor activities such as that never really crossed my mind as chronic cardio, in my mind they fit more into the play category, perhaps that is just me though.
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