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  • How do you get your 20%?

    I am fairly young (29) and I am not doing this for weight loss (anymore) but to be healthy and for a lifestyle I can maintain. I enjoy my 20% and if your a person who eat 100% then well done but this isn't a thread for you.

    I train pretty hard 3-4 times a week and I eat 14 (2 a day) meals a week, so at the moment I have 2 fairly decent treats (Pizza, dessert etc..) after 2 of my training sessions as part of my 20% and the rest of it I guess includes Coffee. the rest of the time my food is nearly always meat/fish and veg.

    This seems to be working quite well for me and seems to in some way give me the Carbs (I know I can get better Carbs) I need after a tough workout, although I am open to suggestions.

    So my question is, how do people structure there 20%? In 2/3 sittings or throughout the week and what do people think is the best way forward?
    2010 - 5,11 and 101KG

    2012 - 5,11 and 77KG

    Train hard, eat well and love life

  • #2
    I eat healthfully 95% of the time but sometimes my mind just wants some really bad sugary food that are almost devoid of nutrition. Then I sit down, give in to my craving and go to town on a bag of milk chocolate, sugar content be damned. I also let myself have hard liquor when I go out, which isn't often. I don't calculate out my 20% or whatever, but I do give myself some room for flexibility.
    F 28/5'4/100 lbs

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    • #3
      I don't structure it in, per say. I use it to deal with real life situations, have the occasional glass of red wine, and some full fat ice cream on a hot summer day.
      Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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      • #4
        I would be hard pressed to find that many people here structure their 20%. I think most people just aim to eat primal most of the time and just allow themselves i.e. social situations to have a few non primal foods if need be. I certainly try not to but I am learning not to shoot myself if I do eat the occassional non primal food. I do not work out as intense as you though it seems.

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        • #5
          I eat a pint of haagen dazs every weekend.
          "The problem with quoting someone on the Internet is, you never know if it's legit" - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #6
            Your so, concious about your health from these age.good luck
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            • #7
              I save my cheats for commercial condiments, like W. sauce & liquid smoke in a jerky recipe, a touch of concentrated orange juice added to a roast pumpkin soup, and having all natural ham with some sugar in the ingredient list, basically, I go for allowing those trace quantities into the diet while avoiding cheat meals per se. I do make my own mayo and marinara, but I do want to have flexibility to have W. sauce or Soy sauce if the recipe calls for it or a touch of sweetener.
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              • #8
                I envy you. Right now, I find the need to be 100% to lose. But before my 20% was regular coffee, ice cream, and coffee with cream and sugar. I found that when I went off and just ate something way off base like pizza, I felt like ass.

                I think the best way is what way works for you. For me, a large splurge non-primal meal is a ticket to feeling bad, but I know a lot of people do well. On the other hand, a small splurge here and there often grows, that square of chocolate becomes a whole bar.

                My plan is to try and do a primal splurge meal- say primal pancakes or some kind of paleo baked good when I get the urge. I'm on day 27 of Whole 30 and it gets a little austere at times.

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                • #9
                  I've felt so good since going primal that I've no real desire to cheat. I do still have coffee in the morning, and 1-2 beers at most on the weekends - but that is the total sum of my "cheating" - which is far less than 20%. I am sure there will be times when I am visiting family or the very rare restaurant visit to socialize that I will need to "cheat", but aside from that I don't even think about it. I've found that now my body is accustomed to eating real food, my stomach lets me know fast when I eat something it doesn't want...

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                  • #10
                    The way you phrase your question and describe what you are doing makes it sound like you see having artificial foods as a must-have or a "right" or some kind of reward for not being fat or somehow a major part of this lifestyle. I don't understand why once you've found excellent health you would consider fouling it up with 20% of crappy stuff that will just bring down your vitality. For me, I just do the best I can at all times, I don't want any "cheat meals" because they simply do not appeal, they're always a let-down, I cook better than almost any restaurant out there. I understand that sometimes I can't control everything I'm going to eat so I know that in the long run a little bit of bad stuff here and there isn't going to kill me. I enjoy a craft beer now and then. I go out to a meal with friends and make the best choice I can knowing it's going to have sub-par ingredients, I choose the best-looking things at a potluck even if they have things in them I don't normally eat. I'll have a bite of a dessert now and then. I'll let my boyfriend buy cheap sushi at the store and have a few pieces knowing the fake crab meat is full of MSG. I don't dwell on these things. They're not important. But I don't make them a specific ingredient in my life and not nearly at such a huge level as 20% of my diet.
                    Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                    • #11
                      I think a lot of you make excellent points.

                      I maybe have to re evaluate my position regarding the 20%. It is worth adding that although I allow myself a couple of non primal meals a week, I always try to avoid certain foods that I know I don't react well with - mainly gluten foods. Pizza is my downfall but I am looking into Meatza

                      Whenever I eat non primal I always try to make a primal choice (if that makes any sense). I guess it comes down to the fact that a couple of nights a week after training I just like to have a treat - maybe I should look into structuring this in a primal way though?

                      Thanks for any comments. It is all a learning curve for me at the end of the day as it will be until the day I die!
                      2010 - 5,11 and 101KG

                      2012 - 5,11 and 77KG

                      Train hard, eat well and love life

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                      • #12
                        I am a firm believer that once a person tried Meatzza, pizza fails to impress any more. I hate pizzas (I tried making my own on CW, it was a bit better, but still I can't see the appeal), lasagnas and other pasta-based dishes smothered in that horrid combo of cheese and tomato sauce, but I love Meatzzas!
                        My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                        When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                        • #13
                          I don't structure my 20%, but I feel terrible when I eat gluten, so even my 20% is gluten-free. If I want pizza as a treat, I get gluten-free pizza. Our local pizzeria uses a wonderful GF crust from a local bakery and even sources local/organic/grass-fed ingredients, so it's a near-Primal treat. Domino's GF crust is surprisingly good, the ingredients are pretty simple (stuff like rice and potato flour). You have to ask for it, but the hearty marinara sauce uses olive oil as opposed to soybean oil in the regular sauce, it also has a lot of pureed veggies in it. My other 20% treats are things like rice, potatoes, chocolate, etc. I realized that I maintain my weight when I incorporate these things too regularly. While that's perfect for you, I still have some weight to lose, so I need to drop them.

                          Man, this thread has me wanting pizza now, and I'm trying not to cheat this month! Wonder if a tapioca flour crust would be considered Primal enough...

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                          • #14
                            I'd say I'm 95%/5% and I find I have no urges to cheat.

                            My 5% comes on annual vacations, business trips, and social gatherings. I will gladly enjoy a cheat meal if it's a GREAT meal. Never just to eat something crappy just for the sake of eating it.

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                            • #15
                              Interesting ...
                              I never aim for my "20%"

                              I do have days where I have a dessert with my husband... a small portion of decadent, premium full fat icecream with real sugar. Or some such treat... A slice of pretty darn close to "primal" cheesecake...
                              It's a splurge for me...

                              But I never consciously shoot for getting to my 20%.

                              I think the idea was to Aim for 100% then the 20% was for the little things life throws at you so you can relax and enjoy life.
                              Actually... that's pretty much exactly what it says in the book right?
                              *shrug*

                              The thing is, the longer you do this... or at least the longer I've done it... the less those "treats" appeal.
                              The crappy oils taste like CRAP, they even start to smell awful if you are in a restaurant that fries a lot.
                              The chemistry experiments start to make you feel crappy...
                              Eating clean just feels better.

                              I sound like a weirdo even to me... I'll stop now.
                              YMMV. *sigh*
                              “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                              ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                              And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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