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  • Avoiding wheat when no sensitivity?

    It seems one of the philosophies behind a grain-free primal diet is the idea that we all have some degree of sensitivity to wheat, even if we have no full blown wheat or gluten allergy. But what if you have been tested for wheat sensitivity and it came out negative? Is there still really a significant advantage to avoiding it altogether? I agree all white flour products should be avoided by everyone just because "bad" carbs cause all sorts of health issues from high triglycerides to diabetes. But if if you have no wheat sensitivity is there really any reason to avoid the healthier forms of wheat, such as a slice of organic whole grain bread?

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    Yep. You avoid consuming empty calories & increasing your appetite. No matter how whole, grains impact appetite more than anything else, causing false hunger. You can try for yourself, avoiding all grain products for 3-6 weeks, and counting calories to reach satiation. It will most likely be much lower (a few hundred calories).

    Plus, have ever seen a loaf of bread that has one ingredient: wheat? Take a look at the list otherwise, and think if you want to consume everything else.
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    • #3
      Everything Leida said is spot on.

      If you must have bread, I'd get Ezekiel's organic sprouted multi-grain bread. I've got a loaf that sits in my freezer that my boyfriend eats maybe 2 slices of every week, and it's only 15g carbs a slice. Not horrible, but still not good. Grains are empty calories; it's not that they themselves are necessarily dangerous, it's that you're filling up on grains instead of eating something with more nutritional value.
      Last edited by 2ndChance; 10-01-2012, 10:52 AM.

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      • #4
        I have a sandwich everyday at lunch made with wheat bread, been eating lunch like this for the past twenty years, and I never had issues.

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        • #5
          Hmm. Why do you say grains are empty calories? Yes, white flour is empty. But a whole grain bread slice does have protein, fats, vitamins, and minerals. Maybe not as nutritionally dense and liver or eggs. But definitely not empty.

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          • #6
            Back to Primal 101....

            Why Grains Are Unhealthy | Mark's Daily Apple

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            • #7
              The tests they do for celiac look for full-blown celiac. The allergy tests look for full-blown allergies. So if you have simply an insensitivity you will not get any results from any tests at the doctor's office. The best you can do is what Leida mentioned. Do an elimination and see if there's a difference.

              I do not have any issues with wheat. I could eat some right now and not feel a thing. However, I never knew how much better it was possible to feel until I eliminated wheat and other grains. The difference is like night and day. I feel young for the first time in my life. I feel like I should have felt when I was 17 years old, only I'm 47 now. I feel like leaping and running and jumping for joy all the time. My life before was like swimming through molasses.
              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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              • #8
                Whole grains or any type of grains are very empty calories and there is more going on than just sensitivity just search the threads there are lots of studies showing how bad they can be even if not sensitive to them and funny enough not one study showing they are actually good for you.
                Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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                • #9
                  The Grain Manifesto | Whole9 | Let us change your life.

                  Why Grains Are Unhealthy | Mark's Daily Apple

                  Basically, any nutritional value in grains is far less than nutritional value found in other sources, compared to the caloric impact. Additionally, grains are designed by nature not to be digested. The fact that they do contain nutrients (in comparitively small amounts, mind you) is offset by the fact that your body cannot really absorb them, and so grain products pass through your system without your body actually taking in any nutrients - instead getting doses of things that are not good, like lectin or gluten.

                  You can eat bread if you want. But nutritionally there will always be better choices.
                  yay!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Barefoot Gentile View Post
                    I have a sandwich everyday at lunch made with wheat bread, been eating lunch like this for the past twenty years, and I never had issues.
                    I used to think like you until I actually stopped eating that way - I will never go back to eating SAD!
                    Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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                    • #11
                      I eat pasta every now and then. I found an einkorn pasta and eat that about once a month.

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                      • #12
                        Wheat is nutritionally very poor, especially when it is processed into bread. The caloric value is immense though for what you are getting and for how fast you get hungry. What you get is greatly reduced by processing and natural and artificial add ons that prevents absorbtion of nutrients since the grain was not designed by nature to be digested. It was designed to be pooped out. Legumes, millet or buckwheat cooked in a traditional way, quinoa... I can see the argument there. But bread is only good for those poor folks who can't gain weight at all. Maybe not even for them. I mean, if you ground your own flour, and baked it without any artificial crap, unleavened, and you had no way of obtaining calories any other way... bread/grain is a starvation food.

                        Look, it's so easy to see if you are better or not without grains. Just don't eat it for 6 or so weeks, and see if you have a positive difference. I noticed it on Day 2 of dropping processed grains (I was still eating traditional cooked cereal and legumes). It was ridiculous, how much better I felt and how much less I ate.

                        But you maybe one of those wondrous people who can eat half a muffin for breakfast and toss the rest in the garbage, then have three macaroni's with half a slice of cheese and an apple for lunch and maybe a toast for supper with a smear of peanut butter, and roll on happily saying how they are not hungry at all and how meat has a disgusting texture.

                        So, experiment! All the science in the world is pointless if you do not know because you have seen it.
                        Last edited by Leida; 10-01-2012, 12:44 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dirlot View Post
                          I used to think like you until I actually stopped eating that way - I will never go back to eating SAD!
                          What does SAD stand for?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Barefoot Gentile View Post
                            What does SAD stand for?
                            I believe it stands for Standard American Diet.

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                            • #15
                              Somewhat sent me this today. Modern wheat a "perfect, chronic poison," doctor says - CBS News

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