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    Got a buddy of mine who told me that he eats primal. Cool, I thought, until he told me that he eats a 27 ounce steak 2x a week..... Now, I know this guy, and he's not an athlete... probably needs to lose 50 pounds. He is strong as an ox, though.

    Again, I am new, and just getting to know what primal is all about, but that seems a bit much, wouldn't you say? Also, again, WTH do I know anyway? It might be awesome, LOL.
    Start Date 9.24.12
    Starting weight 285ish ( scale is acting funny so I don't trust it, but 285 is close )
    CW - 271 pounds
    First Goal - 255 by 2013
    Main Goal - To be healthy for my family... I have an awesome family.
    Other Goal - to get off some medications
    Final goal - to get to about 180 pounds by 2014
    NEW GOAL - When I can start a new journal called "Your dad is not so fat!"

    Your Dad is So Fat

  • #2
    I'm not following you, whats the concern?

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    • #3
      Well, quite obviously, IMO, the caloric intake when needing to lose weight. I personally believe that you can't eat as many calories as you like. Apparently you do.
      Start Date 9.24.12
      Starting weight 285ish ( scale is acting funny so I don't trust it, but 285 is close )
      CW - 271 pounds
      First Goal - 255 by 2013
      Main Goal - To be healthy for my family... I have an awesome family.
      Other Goal - to get off some medications
      Final goal - to get to about 180 pounds by 2014
      NEW GOAL - When I can start a new journal called "Your dad is not so fat!"

      Your Dad is So Fat

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      • #4
        Depends on goals?

        If you hear him whining that "primal doesn't work" because he's not losing weight... I'd suggest he cut back on the steak portions maybe.

        But... if its working for him. *shrug*

        Some people eat big one day, little the next and sort of rotate... or work out their caloric goals another way other than strict "daily" measuring... like a weekly average.
        “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
        ~Friedrich Nietzsche
        And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
          Depends on goals?

          If you hear him whining that "primal doesn't work" because he's not losing weight... I'd suggest he cut back on the steak portions maybe.

          But... if its working for him. *shrug*

          Some people eat big one day, little the next and sort of rotate...
          or work out their caloric goals another way other than strict "daily" measuring... like a weekly average.
          Well, you made that assumption. I didn't want to type out a huge post, but he isn't like that.... and he didn't say he was losing weight, tho he made a big deal about his blood work being better.

          Again, I admit I don't know much yet, but I do know this guy, and I bet he is chowing down 5000 calories a day, every day.
          Start Date 9.24.12
          Starting weight 285ish ( scale is acting funny so I don't trust it, but 285 is close )
          CW - 271 pounds
          First Goal - 255 by 2013
          Main Goal - To be healthy for my family... I have an awesome family.
          Other Goal - to get off some medications
          Final goal - to get to about 180 pounds by 2014
          NEW GOAL - When I can start a new journal called "Your dad is not so fat!"

          Your Dad is So Fat

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          • #6
            Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
            Depends on goals?
            If you hear him whining that "primal doesn't work" because he's not losing weight... I'd suggest he cut back on the steak portions maybe.
            But... if its working for him. *shrug*
            Some people eat big one day, little the next and sort of rotate... or work out their caloric goals another way other than strict "daily" measuring... like a weekly average.
            Agreed. Being or practicing Primal is different things to different people. For some it's a way to lose weight, for others it's a freeing, self-confident way of eating & living that is backed not only by science, & anthropology, but by 100s of thousands of people world-wide who are livin' la vida primal/paleo. Let them/him eat steak & enjoy it! Even portly Julia Childs lived well into her 90s, & she enjoyed every bite of buttery goodness & loads & loads of steak too!
            "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
            "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
            "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Primal Papa View Post
              Well, you made that assumption. I didn't want to type out a huge post, but he isn't like that.... and he didn't say he was losing weight, tho he made a big deal about his blood work being better.

              Again, I admit I don't know much yet, but I do know this guy, and I bet he is chowing down 5000 calories a day, every day.
              No, I'm sorry... I was not making an assumption that he IS doing that.
              I just stated that that is how some people do it.
              Some people do it on purpose... by counting calories.

              Others do naturally it because they follow their bodys appetite signals...and count nothing.

              There are people here who tend to sort of naturally follow their appetite and end up maintaining their weight, or even losing significant weight, in spite of eating seemingly HUGE fatty meals like you posted with those "27oz steaks" on a pretty regular basis.
              For instance though he plans and enjoys those huge steaks he may unconsciously eat less calories the following days though the volume of food is still pretty large by making less calorically dense choices...

              If he is not gaining weight I'd bet that it indeed the case.
              If he is gaining weight... well, that's his issue isn't it?

              If he is happy... Read what Betorq said again.
              “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
              ~Friedrich Nietzsche
              And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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              • #8
                My perspective on Primal continues to evolve. Eating less seems to be more important to me now from an overall feeling of well being. A year ago .. this didn't seem that relevant to me, even though I needed to lose weight, even though it was definitively something that Mark embraces. I think there are a lot of aspects to Primal that you may not appreciate in the early phases, but as you continue down the journey, can add to your overall health, well being and .. well.. hotness.

                I considered myself primal then. I consider myself primal now.

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                • #9
                  it's freeing and it's awesome

                  maybe he's more focused on having a happy mouth and stomach rather than weight loss
                  beautiful
                  yeah you are

                  Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                  lol

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                  • #10
                    it is really freeing. i ate chocolate wednesday night, LOTS of it, & some wheat flour chocolate muffins too. I had just fasted for 48 hours & broke it with a healthy, fatty organic meal of guac, spicy fermented salsa, bratwursts, big ol arugula salad. it was my last night volunteering for the drunks & addicts I prep & cook for & serve them food & drinks at the church next to where i've been living. for 10 weeks, i never even wanted to taste those sugar bombs. but i said fuck it, & i dove in. And the next morning, my scale hadn't budged by even a tenth of a lb! Hahaha!! Autophagy & ketosis rocks!
                    "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
                    "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
                    "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Credodisi View Post
                      My perspective on Primal continues to evolve. Eating less seems to be more important to me now from an overall feeling of well being. A year ago .. this didn't seem that relevant to me, even though I needed to lose weight, even though it was definitively something that Mark embraces. I think there are a lot of aspects to Primal that you may not appreciate in the early phases, but as you continue down the journey, can add to your overall health, well being and .. well.. hotness.

                      I considered myself primal then. I consider myself primal now.
                      I completely agree with this! I started to get healthy and lose weight by way of my diet. As my journey continues I have been inspired to make so many other changes. My eating habits have also evolved a great deal too. The point is that its his journey and if his real goal is to lose weight and he doesn't then be will change. If he says "oh this doesn't work, I'm quitting" then maybe intervene with some constructive criticism on caloric intake. Until then I would just let him work it out on his own.

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                      • #12
                        There are days when even short little old lady me could happily eat a 27 oz steak. I think everybody should do it at least once.
                        Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                        • #13
                          OK, well, I am dropping out to go read more on primal... apparently I need to do that.

                          I'll just say this, as someone who had heart bypass at age 45, it is REALLY HARD to get past the "fat is good" thing. And I didn't have any old bypass.... they did SIX arteries...

                          Thanks for the input.
                          Start Date 9.24.12
                          Starting weight 285ish ( scale is acting funny so I don't trust it, but 285 is close )
                          CW - 271 pounds
                          First Goal - 255 by 2013
                          Main Goal - To be healthy for my family... I have an awesome family.
                          Other Goal - to get off some medications
                          Final goal - to get to about 180 pounds by 2014
                          NEW GOAL - When I can start a new journal called "Your dad is not so fat!"

                          Your Dad is So Fat

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Primal Papa View Post
                            OK, well, I am dropping out to go read more on primal... apparently I need to do that.

                            I'll just say this, as someone who had heart bypass at age 45, it is REALLY HARD to get past the "fat is good" thing. And I didn't have any old bypass.... they did SIX arteries...

                            Thanks for the input.
                            Trust me... it was really really hard for me to get past the fat thing too! But it really does make sense. Glad you kicked that bypass surgery's ass! Even more glad that you chose to become primal CW is really hard to shake, but you will!

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                            • #15
                              Isn't that like... almost 2 lbs of food at once? Your stomach's the size of your fist!! Not something I'll be trying. But primal is about following your instincts, and if your friend's instincts tell him eating that much steak is okay, I guess that's great. (Though I'm thinking he probably isn't eating grassfed steak....ewwww so much nasty low-quality meat from sick animals...)

                              I mean, hey, my instincts told me to eat a shit ton of nuts today... am I worried? Not really. It's what the squirrels do. I took my fish oil. I think I'll be alright.
                              Last edited by 2ndChance; 09-28-2012, 09:05 PM.

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