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  • Why am I so HUNGRY all the time?!!!

    I'm hoping someone, anyone can help me shed some light on my constant feelings of real, tummy grumbling hunger. I'm 33, female, 5'4ish, 115lbs, no health issues or concerns, other than hunger. I Crossfit 2x/week, walk 2-3 hours, and throw in the occasional yoga class. I've been Primal since 11/11, and haven't had this issue until the last few weeks, since finishing a Whole30 last month.
    I'm pretty certain that I eat enough, my weight has not changed since I started Crossfit this May.

    Typical menu for the day, which happens to be today's meal plan:

    Coffee with coconut oil
    3 eggs cooked in ghee (had to choke some of it down, it's really difficult for me to eat more than 2 eggs at a time)
    6 slices bacon
    Avocado

    BAS with EVOO and balsamic
    4 oz skirt steak
    Goat cheese

    1.5 apples
    Cashews

    If I cared to weigh and add up my calories, it's around 2000, mostly from fats. I ate breakfast around 9:45am, and I'm hungry AGAIN now, only 2.5 hours later. This is pretty typical for me right now. I'm trying to save $$$ and only have 2 meals a day, but this hunger just ain't gonna cut it.

    Any insight would be appreciated very much!
    “Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” Rumi

  • #2
    Maybe you are not eating enough to fuel so much exercise.
    Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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    • #3
      Standard question I ask females if they are suddenly hungry or tired beyond norms: could you be pregnant?

      Also, if you just came off a Whole30, did you fall into any same meal all the time habits, to make things easier? You might be missing out on something and your body is trying to get you to eat it. (And no, sadly Snickers are not an essential nutrient.)

      Any new stress in your life?

      That's all I've got.

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      • #4
        Have you ever eliminated fruit and fresh dairy completely? Fruit are huge hunger triggers for me, I feel far less hungry without fruit and high fructose vegetables. Fresh dairy also rises hunger levels in some people. Try it for a few weeks and see if the hunger goes down. I would also replace cashews with macs or Brazils. Cashews are iirc sweeter.

        Also, I find that drinking broth helps a lot.
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        • #5
          I don't feel like I exercise very much, actually. I'd rather do more, but I'm afraid I'll get even hungrier!
          Pregnancy is highly unlikely, since I've had my period this month and am on BC.
          I did eliminate all dairy for 30 days, save ghee, and really liked the way I felt. I've been slowly adding it back in, bit by bit. Maybe that's an issue. Oh, goat cheese, why have you forsaken me?!!!
          I do need to cut the fruit. Would something like yams and squash be better for carbs? Low carb totally wipes me out. I'm considering trying <50g carbs a day again, maybe I'll tolerate it better.

          Good ideas everyone, keep 'em coming!
          “Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” Rumi

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Leida View Post
            I would also replace cashews with macs or Brazils. Cashews are iirc sweeter.

            Also, I find that drinking broth helps a lot.
            Cashews are my guilty pleasure right now. But they're probably not the best choice, even soaked. Broth is a great idea. I prefer miso, would that be an acceptable substitute?
            “Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” Rumi

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            • #7
              I need to add that my stress levels and sleep are adequate. 7-8.5 hours a night. Though sometimes, about once a week, I get shorted a few hours.
              “Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” Rumi

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SophieScreams View Post
                I
                Coffee with coconut oil
                3 eggs cooked in ghee (had to choke some of it down, it's really difficult for me to eat more than 2 eggs at a time)
                6 slices bacon
                Avocado

                ... I'm hungry AGAIN now, only 2.5 hours later.
                Can you get some labs, Sophie?

                I've no idea why you would be experiencing what you are. I can see that you might not be eating enough across the whole day, but is that relevant to what you experience just then at that time of day so soon after eating that? I think a meal such as you just described there should absolutely kill hunger for hours and would for most people.

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                • #9
                  I'm with Lewis... something else might be going on here. Not necessarily, but it does seem odd. I'm roughly the same height, age, weight, and activity level as you and a breakfast like that would keep me full for most of the day.

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                  • #10
                    If you can't eat 3 eggs in one sitting, just eat 2, and have a hard boiled egg later with your apple and cashews.

                    You're not trying to cut weight/fat, so adding in some carbs wouldn't kill you. A sweet (or white) potato or some rice maybe.

                    Are you actually hungry when you eat that breakfast? If I eat early, before I'm actually hungry, then I'm hungry again sooner. And I don't think I could stomach that much food very early in the day. If I delay eating until late morning/noonish when I'm actually hungry, I stay fuller longer after that first meal, and I'm able to eat a heartier meal.

                    Dairy doesn't make me hungry. I find full fat yogurt and good quality cheese to be satisfying. Cheese will kill your budget though!

                    And if you're eating on a budget, opt for cheaper, fattier cuts of meat so you can eat MORE. Seriously, I don't think you're eating enough.
                    Sandra
                    *My obligatory intro

                    There are no cheat days. There are days when you eat primal and days you don't. As soon as you label a day a cheat day, you're on a diet. Don't be on a diet. ~~ Fernaldo

                    DAINTY CAN KISS MY PRIMAL BACKSIDE. ~~ Crabcakes

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                    • #11
                      Sophie, to answer your questions about my posts:

                      -yum or squash: I find that I am sensitive to fructose, but tolerate starch better in terms of satiation. For me the response was actually 'white potato'. On the other hand, the least hungry and the best energy balance that i have achieved was always on the diets that excluded starch and sweets. I did it both Paleo way (less fat, about 30-40% and a lot of non-starchy veggies) and I am doing it now Primal way with <30 g total carb and trying to get fat to over 70%. In both cases, after re-adjustment, I felt significant drop in hunger levels and quality.

                      I see absolutely nothing wrong with miso, I would have it myself if I knew how to make it, lol. I just make bone broth since it is so easy and makes such lovely big batches.
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                      • #12
                        Miso Soup... Easy Peasy! And fast too.
                        You could make it while you are waiting for the bone broth you'll be having tomorrow.
                        But you need some stuff from the Asian super market.
                        Miso paste- I prefer White or Red Miso (white is mildest, and likely what you have been served in restaurants)
                        Kombu kelp
                        Bonito flakes
                        Dried Wakame seaweed

                        Making the Dashi:broth (4 cup batch)
                        4 cups water
                        About 3 (2.5 to 3.5) broken up long sheets of Kombu (there is some leeway for size of pieces here, some will be large others small)
                        Two cups Bonito flakes, packed
                        Tofu cubes? (You can if you want... I say NO! I use cod loin pan cooked in some butter then flaked into my soup once it's done.)
                        Dried wakame seaweed.
                        Green onion, sliced thinly to sprinkle in.

                        Add the kombu to the cold water in a pot on the stove and heat to just under boiling.
                        When the kombu is all puffed up and the water is just about to break into boil, turn off the heat and dump in the bonito flakes.
                        Let this sit and get happy in the steaming water for about 5 min.
                        Pour this through a strainer with some cheese cloth or an ultra-fine sieve.
                        You now have beautiful delicious Dashi. It's good on it's own too... or heated with shaved shitake mushrooms and shallot.
                        (Dashi will keep well in the refrigerator for several days, so feel free to make a double batch in the winter... Miso soup will not!)

                        Now, to make it Miso soup... put it back on the stove but on very, very low heat. You do not want to "heat" the Miso, it will kill the good bacteria. To mix in the Miso it is easiest to ladle some of the warm Dashi into a smaller bowl and whisk some clumps of the Miso paste into it until it liquefies, then add it back to the pot. Do this until the desired flavor has been reached...

                        Sprinkle some wakame into the Miso soup bowl and pour soup over it... careful here... it EXPANDS!!! LOL
                        If you've never played with this stuff you will likely over do it.
                        Really ... it expands like 5x.. or more.
                        Fun stuff.
                        Important to add the wakame to the finished Miso though IMO... it soaks up the flavors of the liquid it is in.

                        Then add tofu cubes and onions for traditional ... or cod loin if you want to up the yum factor a little like me.
                        Or... I also just skip it and go for extra wakame somtimes.
                        Miso soup with extra greens is good.

                        Bonus: All the ingredients for basic Miso Soup... the Kombu, Bonito Flake, Miso paste, wakame... are really shelf stable and last a long time. You can always have them on hand. Miso int he refrigerator, and the rest in sealed containers in the pantry.
                        Last edited by cori93437; 09-20-2012, 12:21 PM.
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                        ~Friedrich Nietzsche
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lewis View Post
                          Can you get some labs, Sophie?

                          I've no idea why you would be experiencing what you are. I can see that you might not be eating enough across the whole day, but is that relevant to what you experience just then at that time of day so soon after eating that? I think a meal such as you just described there should absolutely kill hunger for hours and would for most people.
                          This breakfast, in a slightly smaller quantity, used to squash my appetite for hours. I don't have any other issues or concerns, or I would be getting some lab work done.

                          Thank you everyone, these are all great suggestions! We're all so smart, must be all those artery-clogging saturated fats.

                          I'm going to eliminate the extra dairy, mostly cow's milk cheese, and only eat fruit on Crossfit days. Rice makes me ravenous, but a daily yam or some butternut squash wouldn't hurt. I also added alcohol back in this month. Maybe that's the biggest culprit of them all...
                          “Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” Rumi

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                            Miso Soup... Easy Peasy! And fast too.
                            You could make it while you are waiting for the bone broth you'll be having tomorrow.
                            But you need some stuff from the Asian super market.
                            Miso paste- I prefer White or Red Miso (white is mildest, and likely what you have been served in restaurants)
                            Kombu kelp
                            Bonito flakes
                            Dried Wakame seaweed

                            Making the Dashi:broth (4 cup batch)
                            4 cups water
                            About 3 (2.5 to 3.5) broken up long sheets of Kombu (there is some leeway for size of pieces here, some will be large others small)
                            Two cups Bonito flakes, packed
                            Tofu cubes? (You can if you want... I say NO! I use cod loin pan cooked in some butter then flaked into my soup once it's done.)
                            Dried wakame seaweed.
                            Green onion, sliced thinly to sprinkle in.

                            Add the kombu to the cold water in a pot on the stove and heat to just under boiling.
                            When the kombu is all puffed up and the water is just about to break into boil, turn off the heat and dump in the bonito flakes.
                            Let this sit and get happy in the steaming water for about 5 min.
                            Pour this through a strainer with some cheese cloth or an ultra-fine sieve.
                            You now have beautiful delicious Dashi. It's good on it's own too... or heated with shaved shitake mushrooms and shallot.
                            (Dashi will keep well in the refrigerator for several days, so feel free to make a double batch in the winter... Miso soup will not!)

                            Now, to make it Miso soup... put it back on the stove but on very, very low heat. You do not want to "heat" the Miso, it will kill the good bacteria. To mix in the Miso it is easiest to ladle some of the warm Dashi into a smaller bowl and whisk some clumps of the Miso paste into it until it liquefies, then add it back to the pot. Do this until the desired flavor has been reached...

                            Sprinkle some wakame into the Miso soup bowl and pour soup over it... careful here... it EXPANDS!!! LOL
                            If you've never played with this stuff you will likely over do it.
                            Really ... it expands like 5x.. or more.
                            Fun stuff.
                            Important to add the wakame to the finished Miso though IMO... it soaks up the flavors of the liquid it is in.

                            Then add tofu cubes and onions for traditional ... or cod loin if you want to up the yum factor a little like me.
                            Or... I also just skip it and go for extra wakame somtimes.
                            Miso soup with extra greens is good.

                            Bonus: All the ingredients for basic Miso Soup... the Kombu, Bonito Flake, Miso paste, wakame... are really shelf stable and last a long time. You can always have them on hand. Miso int he refrigerator, and the rest in sealed containers in the pantry.
                            This looks AWESOME! And gives me a good reason to trek way out east to the Asian market.
                            “Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” Rumi

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SophieScreams View Post
                              This breakfast, in a slightly smaller quantity, used to squash my appetite for hours. I don't have any other issues or concerns, or I would be getting some lab work done.

                              Thank you everyone, these are all great suggestions! We're all so smart, must be all those artery-clogging saturated fats.

                              I'm going to eliminate the extra dairy, mostly cow's milk cheese, and only eat fruit on Crossfit days. Rice makes me ravenous, but a daily yam or some butternut squash wouldn't hurt. I also added alcohol back in this month. Maybe that's the biggest culprit of them all...
                              Alcohol affects my sleep, negatively. iIf you are drinking some you may be getting hunger signals, that are actually tired signals.

                              Jennifer
                              Primal since 4/7/2012

                              Starting weight 140
                              Current weigh 126

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