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  • Question for those who have read Fiber Menace & Gut Sense

    I've been perusing the Gut Sense website (at work, no less - yikes) and am having trouble locating a section/page where he clearly and concisely lays out what NOT to eat. If I understand correctly, it seems that raw veg is a no-no?

    I've battled with constipation/painful bloating issues for at least the past 10 years and was hoping Primal was my answer; however, it seems that after incorporating lots of veg into my diet (primarily in the form of salad), my GI tract becomes discontent. Until coming across the aforementioned site/info, I never would've thought it was the salad's fault - but is it? I'd hate to stop eating salads (which I have daily, with lunch and a smaller one with dinner) if I'm off track.

    Those of your familiar with the info, especially if you implemented Monastyrsky's advice and noticed an improvement in the way you feel, etc., please share you wisdom & experiences.
    Thanks!

  • #2
    I've been on a low fiber diet for a long time very successfully and so have many other. I don't miss salad at all. I like this clip from Dr. Greg Ellis
    Dietary Fiber covered by Dr. Greg Ellis - YouTube
    Paleo since November 2011 - Carnivore since June 2012
    Before and after pics
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65846.html
    Primal Sucess Story
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65400.html
    Primal Journal
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post955444

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    • #3
      He never outlines a specific diet. In the book, he describes his own, which is largely based on white rice. He basically says to pick your favorite low-carb/low-fiber diet and run with it.
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      • #4
        I think it is best to let people structure their own diet. Dr. Ellis does the same
        Paleo since November 2011 - Carnivore since June 2012
        Before and after pics
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65846.html
        Primal Sucess Story
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65400.html
        Primal Journal
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post955444

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        • #5
          I suppose what I was essentially looking for was a list of high fiber foods, things that should be avoided. From what I've read so far, I've gleaned that many of my primal staples (raw veg / salads, nuts, occasional fruit) seem to be high fiber and therefore detrimental to digestion. I'm not looking for a "diet" to follow, per se, just general guidelines of, "Hey, don't eat this or that because it'll make your g.i. problems worse."
          One of the main reasons I began eating primal is to improve the way I feel & eradicate my digestive issues - it's frustrating that the foods I've come to rely on and truly enjoy seem like they could be part of the problem. What's a gal to do?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pheebie View Post
            I suppose what I was essentially looking for was a list of high fiber foods, things that should be avoided. From what I've read so far, I've gleaned that many of my primal staples (raw veg / salads, nuts, occasional fruit) seem to be high fiber and therefore detrimental to digestion. I'm not looking for a "diet" to follow, per se, just general guidelines of, "Hey, don't eat this or that because it'll make your g.i. problems worse."
            One of the main reasons I began eating primal is to improve the way I feel & eradicate my digestive issues - it's frustrating that the foods I've come to rely on and truly enjoy seem like they could be part of the problem. What's a gal to do?
            High fiber:
            Most all fruit, something like muscadines grapes doesn't affect my bowels though
            Leafy greens obviously
            Broccoli
            I would think most all green vegetables are really high in fiber

            Low Fiber:
            Avocado
            Mushrooms
            Garlic
            Onions
            Tomatoes if you remove the skin
            Nut butters don't seem to bother me like nuts do

            Just what I can think of off the top of my head. Correct me if I'm wrong about any of these.
            Paleo since November 2011 - Carnivore since June 2012
            Before and after pics
            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65846.html
            Primal Sucess Story
            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65400.html
            Primal Journal
            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post955444

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            • #7
              Thanks, Bennett ~ this is a helpful start.

              Lunch yesterday: scrambled eggs & cooked green beans (with a copious amount of Kerrygold butter). For dinner the Mr. cooked up some delicious bone-in porkchops (again with butter - yum). No feelings of puffiness today ~ yay.
              Today's lunch: scrambled eggs, few slices of turkey & a bit of cheese. I felt odd not eating any veggies, but the only way to find out if they're the culprit is to ban them for a while. I do love my grape tomatoes, sweet peppers & various leafy greens ~ this is not going to be an easy experiment; however, if it results in better digestion, it'll be worth it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pheebie View Post
                Thanks, Bennett ~ this is a helpful start.

                Lunch yesterday: scrambled eggs & cooked green beans (with a copious amount of Kerrygold butter). For dinner the Mr. cooked up some delicious bone-in porkchops (again with butter - yum). No feelings of puffiness today ~ yay.
                Today's lunch: scrambled eggs, few slices of turkey & a bit of cheese. I felt odd not eating any veggies, but the only way to find out if they're the culprit is to ban them for a while. I do love my grape tomatoes, sweet peppers & various leafy greens ~ this is not going to be an easy experiment; however, if it results in better digestion, it'll be worth it.
                good luck! and maybe try the bigger tomatoes as its easy to remove the skin. that's the part that gives me problems
                Paleo since November 2011 - Carnivore since June 2012
                Before and after pics
                http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65846.html
                Primal Sucess Story
                http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65400.html
                Primal Journal
                http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post955444

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                • #9
                  Pheebie :-)
                  I'm conducting a simular experiment so let's keep each other informed on what's good and very bad :-)

                  You are ahead of me on meats, I'm coming in as a recovering raw vegan, but I was mostly fruit the last couple of years b/c raw veggies destroyed me! Btw -YES, salads slow down the system for some of us. I so so miss salads!

                  When I have experimented with meats, by far the least cooked was the best for digestion and having the least potential for constipation. I've will eat uncooked meat over cooked or this one reason.
                  I'm off fruits, but if you have them eat one type of fruit alone w/o other foods first thing in the AM.

                  As far as produce low in fiber go with cucumbers, tomatoes, olives, zuccini. Here is a trick I do - blended soups! the fiber in the produce is broken down nicely.

                  I'm really hoping to get to where I don't "eat" fiber foods. Maybe some juicing veggies. If anything I will use the low fiber produce as condiments instead of my main item (as I still do). I'm nervous though b/c I filled my tummy to the brim with only fiber foods for yrs, it would shock my system.

                  One more thing... I bought a huge aloe leaf and filleted it to add the gel to smoothies. I think it is helpful!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BennettC View Post
                    I've been on a low fiber diet for a long time very successfully and so have many other. I don't miss salad at all. I like this clip from Dr. Greg Ellis
                    Dietary Fiber covered by Dr. Greg Ellis - YouTube
                    Bennett,
                    I'm very curious to know what the low fiber diet looks like? Please share what you eat on that lifestyle?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BennettC View Post
                      High fiber:
                      Most all fruit, something like muscadines grapes doesn't affect my bowels though
                      Leafy greens obviously
                      Broccoli
                      I would think most all green vegetables are really high in fiber

                      Low Fiber:
                      Avocado
                      Mushrooms
                      Garlic
                      Onions
                      Tomatoes if you remove the skin
                      Nut butters don't seem to bother me like nuts do

                      Just what I can think of off the top of my head. Correct me if I'm wrong about any of these.
                      BTW, avocado are ridiculously HIGH in fiber (both soluble and insoluble). The other stuff is accurate, but I'd imagine that nut butters would probably be high in fiber, though I don't have any on hand to check, and i haven't used them in a long time.

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                      • #12
                        Anyone which substitute supplements would suffice compared to the one you buy off his site? I havent got a credit card, but i'd like something like Hydro-C, just to use when things back up over a couple days.

                        I noticed he modified his site to remove some content given the website had most of the info the book has.

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