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  • Is Paleo nothing more than Atkins Diet reborn ????

    Sure seems to me the whole Paleo movement is nothing more than Atkins Diet reborn again...?? Unless I'm missing something?? Atkins preached high protien with hefty healthy fats and low to no carbs. So why is Paleo better or more advanced than Atkins?? Just wondering - thanks

  • #2
    It's very different. This isn't low carb. And doesn't atkins sell "low carb bars" blegh
    well then

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    • #3
      Its very different. Paleo is a pretty broad term nowadays. Many different versions, many different people structuring different diets. Some of us do VLC like, 60 grams. I've met people on here that are consuming as many as 300 grams of carbohydrate a day...yikes! Although primal is geared more towards low carbs, for example I started on Loren Cordain's paleo diet. I wasn't told to count carbs or calories but rather to eat all I wanted
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      • #4
        Atkins included a lot of processed options.

        Plus, yeah, there is no limit on carbs on Primal unless you are trying for weight loss. Even then it's not really "required". It probably just seems VLC because so many people that post here really cut the carbs and aim for ketosis.

        So yeah, it's just like Atkins except no processed foods, and you are welcome to eat as many non grain, whole carbs as you want.

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        • #5
          In addition paleo/primal is about more than food: sleep, exercise, play, are all part of it. Atkins is a great gateway, though; plenty of people come to paleo/primal through good old Atkins.

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          • #6
            The "real" Atkins program was about food, actual food. When they started making products it got all out of line (IMHO, of course). If you read the book, or maybe the older version of the book, there are no references to processed stuff at all. It is all about vegetables, meat, fat from butter or avocado or olive oil.

            I do see difference between Atkins and primal, for certain, particularly what Sabine pointed out. But it is an unfortunate conclusion that the Atkins diet and the Atkins processed junk are the same thing.

            Just my defensive 2 cents...Atkins did a world of good for me about 12 years ago.

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            • #7
              Did Atkins come up with the low carb food products? I think that is the #1 thing that makes "life style" type diets ineffective- when they start faking what you are not allowed to eat. Like I bet low fat was effective before "snackwells" and 9,876 other calorie laden low fat snacks.

              I feel like that is why Primal works for me. There is no "primal approved cookies" and "Primal Ice Cream".

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              • #8
                Primal is low carb for some and not as low carb for others ...depends on your goals. Atkins didn't focus on the right fats like primal does, as I recall. When I did Atkins years and years ago I didn't know that vegetable oils were bad for you. Atkins does have a lot of processed foods, but from what I've heard those came about after the death of Mr. Atkins.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                  Did Atkins come up with the low carb food products? I think that is the #1 thing that makes "life style" type diets ineffective- when they start faking what you are not allowed to eat.
                  I agree 100%! Well said.

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                  • #10
                    Also, paleo-type diets are often adopted for reasons other than weight loss. Many of us have seen big health improvements by focusing on real, whole foods, regardless of whether we wanted to lose weight, maintain it, or even gain it (not everyone on paleo is trying to get thin).

                    Atkins is about macros. Paleo is at its heart about real food, although certain variants may espouse low carb while others are macronutrient agnostic or may even encourage being careful about fat (as in the case of Cordain's earlier work that emphasized lean meats).
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                    • #11
                      low carb is optimal because its a well established fact that glucose is the #1 cause of rapid again
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                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65846.html
                      Primal Sucess Story
                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65400.html
                      Primal Journal
                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post955444

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                      • #12
                        I think Paleo/Primal does remind the latest versions of Atkins, where a person establishes their carb tolerance threshold. However, Primal/Paleo also promote high quality foods and natural fitness approach. I don't know why the fitness portion of Paleo and Primal lifestyle gets overlooked so often by people (or the same person) who posts questions like "Is this organic Atkins?" (Shrug)
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                        • #13
                          if im not mistaken Atkins is involved with the net carb SCAM!
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                          Before and after pics
                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65846.html
                          Primal Sucess Story
                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread65400.html
                          Primal Journal
                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tml#post955444

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BennettC View Post
                            low carb is optimal because its a well established fact that glucose is the #1 cause of rapid again
                            Low carb is optimal for some people, but for some of us it is a complete failure. Don't assume everyone needs to eat the same way you do. I lose fat more successfully with moderate carbs, as do others around here. Not all of us have metabolic issues or other health conditions that make vlc necessary or even preferable.
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                            • #15
                              Paleo has an evolutionary prism to look through to determine what should be eaten. The Primal Blueprint throws in the carb curve because almost everybody in our culture who buys a diet book has at least a little metabolic syndrome and diet books try to help the most people and provide a path. It also offers recipes and other things that diet books do. But you can find your own path using the evolutionary prism and ignore the carb curve if you want. The fact that (original) Atkins, paleo and Primal as well as the true Mediterranean diet converge on similar foods should tell you something about whether or not it's healthier and more effective to eat real food that isn't low fat or industrially processed.
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