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  • #46
    Originally posted by BennettC View Post
    Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information and i'll take personal experience over a book or website any day. You are right about the glycemic index though, it's fairly useless. When the tests for measurements were done, the only food consumed was carbohydrate in a 50 gram dose. People obviously eat more than 50 grams and more than one kind of food in a sitting. source: "The Glycation Factor" by Dr. Greg Ellis
    Wikipedia can be good, & it can be not good. I think blanket statements like that deserve qualifying. Is there a particular or a set of wiki info you have issues with? I have no vested interest in defending wikipedia 1 way or another, I'm just curious...
    Last edited by Betorq; 09-18-2012, 07:00 AM. Reason: typo
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    • #47
      I've read good stuff on wiki too. But I was referring to Choco's post above where all of his sources come from wiki. should've quoted it but it was a really long post for a short response. thought id put my 2 cents in
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      • #48
        got a nice laugh out of yalls debate btw. kind of made my morning lol, he did indeed get served
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        • #49
          it happens to us all, in time...
          fyi, for future reference, you can hit Reply With Quote & then delete the parts you don't want to include from others' posts...
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          • #50
            Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
            ...the Dalai Lama doesn't know it.....
            Actually he does, he just isnt sharing. I asked him about that particular subject the other day and he just smiled that smile of his and said he didnt want to spoil the ending...
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Timthetaco View Post
              I'm pretty sure we're in complete agreement here. I can appreciate therapeutic ketosis, as ketones seem to benefit the brain quite a bit. Hell, my wife chooses to stay mostly ketogenic because it allows her more mental clarity for school. Whether the pill she's taking is the cause of her general fogginess is up for debate, but I don't begrudge her for it one bit. I only take issue with the perfectly insulin sensitive crowd insisting that ketosis isn't just a useful backup metabolism, but rather our optimal metabolism, and also that raising blood sugar (and insulin as a result) is a one-two punch that gives people diabetes. There's no support for such an idea outside of Good Calories, Bad Calories, and he misinterpreted/manipulated/ignored research and his theory isn't true. So...

              Sometimes personal bias can cloud rational thinking. however most of the time Institutional Bias is the boogie man.

              we live a a sugar saturated society. moving from the top of the sign wave to the bottom is concidered extreme.

              however just consider this

              Last time i looked we have only one method of converting sugar into fat. while we have about 6 to convert fat into sugar. additionally converting sugar into fat produces serious toxins which must be cleared from the system.

              I do think that we are designed to exist on fat and protein. I do not begrudge anyone who can or chooses to eat sugar/glucose ( call it what you want. it is all sugar in the end) but i do think that they would be better off without it... after all only our brain requires glucose. the rest of the body works far easier without it...


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