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    I bought some organic, grass fed, low temp pasteurized, non-homogenized milk for the first time. I expected the fat to separate, but I didn't expect it to form solid chunks that stuck to the glass container no matter how much I shook it. Is my frig too cold, or is this normal? I was bummed to see all that fat lost.

    On a related note, I discovered later that this same dairy also produces non-organic, pasteurized, homogenized milk which makes me think I ought to find another source. Do you think this makes the quality of their organic milk suspect? This was a complication in sourcing better milk that I never even considered. Ugh...
    50yo, 5'3"
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    CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
    GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

  • #2
    I have the same issue with that kind of milk. Hopefully someone will provide the solution.

    I wouldn't worry that they make other milk.
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    • #3
      Hmm... my experience is with Raw milk... high fat Jersey and Guernsey.
      So, organic, grass fed, non-pasteurized, non-homogenized...
      When I shake, it mixes.
      Sometimes if the jar (glass half-gallon mason jar) is very full there is a tiny bit that doesn't stuck to the lid or something, but never "chunks" or anything like that.
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      • #4
        has the milk been frozen? that can cause the cream to clump. otherwise, i wonder if it is from the pasteurisation?

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        • #5
          I've bought raw mill that have formed lumps of cream on top too. They're supposed to be normal because in unpasteurized milk, the cream should rise to the top. You could try shaking it to dissipate the lumps, or do as I do and just happily eat a lump of cream.
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          • #6
            Hmm... Could be the low temp pasteurization makes the fat stick to the glass. I haven't read much technical literature on the effects of pasteurization. I don't mind the chunks of fat that float in the milk. 99% of my milk consumption is in coffee, so the fat just melts. I was just sad to see all the fat stuck to the glass bottle.
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            • #7
              Mine is raw and ive never had that problem. Unless I've had one for over 2 weeks without shaking, but even then its not that much of a problem. I suspect the pasteurization...which is dangerous! Try to find raw
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              • #8
                Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
                Hmm... Could be the low temp pasteurization makes the fat stick to the glass. I haven't read much technical literature on the effects of pasteurization. I don't mind the chunks of fat that float in the milk. 99% of my milk consumption is in coffee, so the fat just melts. I was just sad to see all the fat stuck to the glass bottle.
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                • #9
                  If the container is fairly full empty some of the milk out and then shake it. You should find the momentum of milk will now be enough to dislodge the cream and mix back into the milk. Happens to me all the time and it is only difficult to dislodge when the bottle is fairly full.

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                  • #10
                    I buy this type of milk and apparently, according to the dairy, the pasteurization causes this. The cream is liquid when the milk is fresh, but as it ages, it become more solid.

                    As for those of you who insist on telling us we should get raw milk, some of us do not have access to this. Raw milk is illegal in Maryland and Delaware. It is legal in PA, but can be difficult to find if you don't live within a reasonable distance to the farm. It is also illegal to bring raw milk across state lines. The milk I buy is from Trickling Springs dairy, and it's the best I can do under the circumstances. I feel lucky that I was able to find this at a Mennonite market only 20 minutes from home. Trickling Springs produces both organic and non-organic grass-fed milk products, and raw milk cheeses. I trust them. They have always answered my questions when I contact them and seem to have a good business ethic.

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                    • #11
                      The cream sticks to the container. That's just the way it is. You can shake it but some will still stick. What I do is at the end, when the container is empty, is I swish a little coffee around in it to get the last bit of cream out for my coffee.
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                      • #12
                        Thanks for all the tips on getting the bits of fat off the glass bottle. If this is normal, I'll just deal with it.

                        Originally posted by Lynna View Post
                        I buy this type of milk and apparently, according to the dairy, the pasteurization causes this. The cream is liquid when the milk is fresh, but as it ages, it become more solid.

                        As for those of you who insist on telling us we should get raw milk, some of us do not have access to this. Raw milk is illegal in Maryland and Delaware. It is legal in PA, but can be difficult to find if you don't live within a reasonable distance to the farm. It is also illegal to bring raw milk across state lines. The milk I buy is from Trickling Springs dairy, and it's the best I can do under the circumstances. I feel lucky that I was able to find this at a Mennonite market only 20 minutes from home. Trickling Springs produces both organic and non-organic grass-fed milk products, and raw milk cheeses. I trust them. They have always answered my questions when I contact them and seem to have a good business ethic.
                        Lynna, the milk I bought was also from Trickling Springs. I got the first (organic) 1/2 gallon at Whole Foods on 202 just north of the Delaware line. It was delish. Then I found their Farm Friends non-organic at the Middletown, DE Farmers' Market. I think it tasted about the same. I'm not sure I understand the point of grass fed, non-organic, unless they just happen to have some farmers who are organic, but not certified. I emailed asking what the differences between their Whole Foods line and their Farm Friends line are and am waiting to hear back.

                        So if I drove into PA to pick up raw milk, would they refuse to sell it to me, or would I risk being arrested when I returned to DE? I was thinking there must be raw milk available in DE and you just have to know the right people, but maybe not...
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                        • #13
                          Just wanted to follow up. Joe from Trickling Springs got back to me and their Farm Friends brand is from farms that adhere to their guidelines, but have not completed the paperwork to become certified organic. I actually like the fact that they work with farms that are grass fed and organic, but not certified.

                          I did find a place not too far into PA that sells raw, so I plan to head up there to try some out. Hopefully, I won't get arrested, lol.
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                          GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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                          • #14
                            Glad you've found some answers. If you ask around you may find a local buying group for raw milk. Usually means knowing some people. I have friends that like Trickling Springs and like that it is their easy source for grass fed milk.

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                            • #15
                              I drink Kalona Organics milk which is grass-fed, VAT pasteurized, non-homogenized, and organic. There is always a plug of cream at the top of the bottle. As others have mentioned, it takes a glass or two of milk before there is enough room in the bottle to shake it up and distribute the cream.

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