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  • #16
    Originally posted by solstice View Post
    when you 24 hour fast do you tend to limit any exercise?

    yes---could skip B & L! Will try!
    Many people report weight training is fine or even improved once you become (more or fully) fat adapted. Same people say that sustained aerobic (oxygen & glycogen burning) exercises suffer. I've noticed that my laps in the pool during a fast, I'm weaker/tired faster but I push thru it anyways. I"m not sure with just 24 hours though. And metabolically, everyone is different. So my experiences are not going to be yours...

    Oh, chat w/ PaleoBird on this subject. She recommends getting into ketosis or approaching it at the minimum, before the fast itself. It makes the fast easier & more effective, less of a struggle. I'm fasting now, I do 48 hours every week now. I did have low protein, low carb fatty meals for (huge) breakfast & (small) lunch today, was not hungry at all for dinner, seems easy(ier) so far... Will eat again lunch time Tuesday.
    Last edited by Betorq; 09-16-2012, 07:53 PM.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by solstice View Post
      when you 24 hour fast do you tend to limit any exercise?
      I dont limit anything when I do a 24. It is just so normal now so it doesnt alter anything. In the email over the weekend from Eat Stop Eat, he was discussing these two brothers, one was NCAA I think, and one was NFL and he even plays football while fasted.

      Originally posted by Betorq View Post
      She recommends getting into ketosis or approaching it at the minimum, before the fast itself. It makes the fast easier & more effective, less of a struggle.
      Totally agree. I think you just reach all the benefits of fasting faster, if you are already in ketosis or close. I try not to have carbs the night before, or many, since they are not as filling for me.

      Some of the info Betorq presented in another thread about a 10 day fast, suggests that the first one - 3 days of fasting, you are transitioning and switching over to being a fat burner, so I am thinking that if you are in ketosis ahead of time, you get a jump on it and can shave off a few days. Well I try to eat low carb anyways, not just for fasting, but that is what made me transition into intermittent fasting before I even knew what it was. So I think by being low carb at the beginning, you just really maximize a 24 hours fast. I do Fast-5 most Daily, with some 24s thrown in there. So I think my Fast 5s are maximized also. Been experimenting with some 48s, in one now.
      65lbs gone and counting!!

      Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Betorq View Post
        Tell 'em mommy is drinking her dinner (have a coffee mug with water in it...I dunno what to tell ya). Fasting will help. Or (light bulb!) you could eat dinner w/ the family, but skip breakfast & lunch that'd be 24 hrs! Once you get acclimated to doing that, incrementally increase the fasting times to 36 then 48 hrs over time. There's lots of fasting threads & lots of experienced ladies here on MDA who can hold your hand & walk with you through this process.
        Harvested from its hump. The meat is quite tasty I hear & the eggs are GINORMOUS! One could feed your entire family breakfast, jaja...
        Regarding emu oil, to you consume it or apply topically or both?

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        • #19
          I only made it until about 11am today...but that was a start at 16 hours! I did also do a 3 1/2 mile walk this am. Oh...I did have a cup of tea with coconut oil in it---allowed or no?

          I am low carb/high fat most days unless I eat a plethora of veggies in some dish!
          Check out my blog on nature and nurture!
          http://thewoodsygal.com/

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          • #20
            Originally posted by solstice View Post
            I only made it until about 11am today...but that was a start at 16 hours! I did also do a 3 1/2 mile walk this am. Oh...I did have a cup of tea with coconut oil in it---allowed or no?

            I am low carb/high fat most days unless I eat a plethora of veggies in some dish!
            WTG!! That is how it starts I think if you do more than your body is ready for, that is just another unnecessary stress that you do not need. Good job!

            CO is a good thing And so is a plethora of veggies.

            I am glad you posted when you did, and I took a big interest in it because I just found out Saturday night that my step-daughter has had something for a couple of months, in her breast, and it is now causing her pain. I also have a family history of breast cancer, so I have a great interest.
            65lbs gone and counting!!

            Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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            • #21
              Thanks Betorq for suggesting fasting. When I read the fasting thread I was thinking about other issues I'm dealing with, but hadn't yet linked it to the PCOS issue yet.

              Way to go Solstice! And yes, some coconut oil is okay when you're doing longer fasts because it doesn't push us out of the fasting state. And it's been suggested that eating some calories (like the coconut oil) it keeps us ladies from going into starvation mode and having our cycles stop. I think 24 hours is fine, but if you ever do a longer fast, then yes, please supplement with some coconut oil.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by gopintos View Post
                WTG!! That is how it starts I think if you do more than your body is ready for, that is just another unnecessary stress that you do not need. Good job!

                CO is a good thing And so is a plethora of veggies.

                I am glad you posted when you did, and I took a big interest in it because I just found out Saturday night that my step-daughter has had something for a couple of months, in her breast, and it is now causing her pain. I also have a family history of breast cancer, so I have a great interest.
                My maternal side has a long history of breast cancer and just breast cysts as well...hoping that this is only a cyst that she is dealing with.

                I'm quite excited about the not-eating-breakfast part of this plan. Not sure I can do that everyday though!
                Check out my blog on nature and nurture!
                http://thewoodsygal.com/

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by solstice View Post
                  Never been diagnosed with PCOS but did have an OC removed about 10 years ago. I think I have another...recurrent back pain early in cycle...dull aching in side/hip, bloated abdomen...all the tell tale signs for me. I have been quite great about staying primal...but have had some caffeinated tea and few squares of chocolate in the past month. A lot of what you read online tells PCOS sufferers to avoid eggs and sat. fats....I assume I need an n=1 to get to the bottom of this for me, as I eat eggs and fatty meats regularly. My skin has looked awesome lately (possibly just due to the low insulin levels), but this cyst has me baffled. Welcome any suggestions or stories of your own experiences! Thanks!
                  If you google PCOS-causes-treatment you will find out that this syndrome is significantly related with genes and diet. Actually, obese women tend to have high risk of experiencing this syndrome. Particularly, foods that affect insuline have been found to be related with the PCOS syndrome. A high-carb diet has been considered to be the number one guilty regarding the diet profile of the 'patient'. Carbs and not fat is the 'enemy' in this situation. If I manage to discover a meta-analysis on this topic I will post it here for more evidence to convince! (Am I allowed to publish links with studies?)
                  The truly creative mind in any field is no more than this: A human creature born abnormally, inhumanely sensitive. To them…a touch is a blow, a sound is a noise, a misfortune is a tragedy, a joy is an ecstasy, a friend is a lover, a lover is a god, and failure is death.” Pearl Buck

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Loukia Maria View Post
                    (Am I allowed to publish links with studies?)
                    Yes, absolutely!

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                    • #25
                      ^ yes...that would be great!
                      Check out my blog on nature and nurture!
                      http://thewoodsygal.com/

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Lynna View Post
                        Regarding emu oil, to you consume it or apply topically or both?
                        Topically. Though I suppose it could be eaten. It's expensive stuff. Topically a little goes a long long way, for healing.
                        "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
                        "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
                        "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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                        • #27
                          Betorq---is there a brand of Emu oil that you prefer? Prices seem to vary wildly and I would guess that could be based on the product purity.
                          Check out my blog on nature and nurture!
                          http://thewoodsygal.com/

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                          • #28
                            I'm following this post because I suspect I may be dealing with a cyst on my right ovary.

                            Just wondering how often you would suggest fasting and how to time it?

                            Also, what exactly does fasting do to improve the situation?

                            Thanks!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by jaye View Post
                              Also, what exactly does fasting do to improve the situation?
                              If you body is not focusing on digestion, it can tend to other matters. Clean house if you will. It is called autophagy. Your body will "eat" dead cells, other objects like cysts, tumors, etc. It consumes and recycles damaged material. This has many benefits, one being Life Extension and decreasing many of the diseases that comes with aging.

                              Betorq shared this on another thread:
                              BCC - Eat, Fast, Live longer documentary - BBC Two - Horizon, 2012-2013, Eat, Fast and Live Longer
                              65lbs gone and counting!!

                              Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by solstice View Post
                                Betorq---is there a brand of Emu oil that you prefer? Prices seem to vary wildly and I would guess that could be based on the product purity.
                                Swanson online is the company I get mine from. It was $10/bottle last time I stocked up. May or may not still be that price. Top quality, excellent price.

                                Edit: I checked their site, wow, like many things it's gone up: 60% increase to $15.89, from $9.96. C'est la vie...
                                Last edited by Betorq; 09-18-2012, 11:00 AM.
                                "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
                                "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
                                "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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