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  • Do you get an "EAT EAT EAT" mentality after eating a low-carb dinner?

    I've been trying to eat very low-carb for the past few days because I don't have a massive amount of weight to lose, so I find that weight loss tends to be a bit more stubborn. I'm a female in my teens, about 6'0 tall and around 178 lbs. I'd like to lose about 20 lbs. I have a lean upper body, but my butt and thighs are pretty curvy (I'm a size 10-12).

    For breakfast and lunch, I tend to be disciplined and don't crave sweets. But after dinner, regardless of HOW MUCH I eat (e.g. 2 grass-fed beef patties, lots of broccoli and brussel sprouts sauteed in butter), I always CRAVE something sweet. So on top of that pretty substantial dinner, I had a few handfuls of almonds, a few glasses of milk, 1/3 bar of dark chocolate, and a banana. Nothing explicitly UN-paleo (except for the dairy), but it's just SO MUCH FOOD. I just have a crazy desire to eat something on top of a massive dinner, especially something sweet. (And fruit just packs on weight for me!)

    It's pretty important for me to remain in ketosis because these 20 lbs will pretty much fight tooth and nail to cling on. Did you experience something similar after eating especially low-carb? How do you combat the desire to eat something else? Is this a sign that I should really just eliminate sugar for good, so I can overcome the addiction?


    Thanks so much! It's so valuable to hear the opinions of my fellow Primal veterans.

  • #2
    I'm guessing the milk, chocolate and banana are going to throw you out of ketosis. Just too many carbs, not necessarily bad ones, just too many. In the case of munchies, try for nuts and berries... Better yet, try to just walk the cravings off. Also, you may need to spread out your calories better throughout the day. Calories, especially for women, do matter so figure out how many calories you need to maintain and then lose. I'm sure someone will mention a website with a calculator to figure it out. I can't think of it.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by fcby9 View Post
      I have a lean upper body, but my butt and thighs are pretty curvy (I'm a size 10-12).
      Sounds like you are perfect already
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      • #4
        @ magicmerl: thank you, but you're too kind! I do need to lean out a bit. It's mainly just a matter of tone -- I'm not wild about the skinny-fat look (my top half is skinny, my bottom half isn't as). Grokette was phat and toned, haha.

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        • #5
          I have a strong craving for something sweet after every meal. The only thing that works for me it to drink a glass of water. I try not to eat anything when I'm "craving" as nothing satisfies when I'm craving and I'll rage out and eat everything lol. A glass of water will usually knock me out of "I must eat everything!!".
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          • #6
            Ha, for me it wasn't sweets (more cheese and nuts), but yes, do I know the after-dinner-cravings!

            Here's how I went from excessive after-dinner-nibbling to not eating dinner at all.

            Fist step: choose some paleo treats and stick to them - allow no other foods after dinner.
            Second step: eat as much of those as you want, but only at the dinner table and on a plate - no nibbling on the sofa.
            Now you can start to ration the treats, either by limiting the daily amount or by only buying so much per week and eating it until it's gone.

            Eventually I tried not eating dinner at all - and it worked! And of course there is no "time after dinner" when you've come to that point....

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            • #7
              Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
              Sounds like you are perfect already
              Yeah, curvy ftw
              well then

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              • #8
                Have you tried eating something salty? It might satisfy those cravings. Also, as mentioned milk and banana (even milk alone) will probably prevent ketosis.

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                • #9
                  I have the same after dinner issue, not helped by the fact that I eat FAST and therefore don't always realise I'm full. What I find though is usually once I've had a cup of tea the brain knows that eating time is over. Somehow I've learnt that tea = no more food. I know that this is an anorexic trick, but have you tried cleaning your teeth straight after dinner? Might also work as an off switch. Or try a cuppa!
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                  • #10
                    i have noticed exactly this phenomenon. In fact, I get HUNGRIER for about 10' after a meal. VERY uncomfortable - but I have learned (am learning) that if I wait it out, white knuckling, for about 45' it noticeably fades away. Sometimes, I am actually slightly TOO full then and very relieved I didn't continue to eat. I think its a delay between my stomach receiving the food and a signal getting to my brain. In the meantime, my appetite is even more stimulated by the food I am seeing and eating - and so I get "hungrier".

                    I have also slowed down while I eat a LOT - to see if that helps.

                    I plan not to "consume/do" anything for that 45' - maybe an hour. IF it doesn't fade then maybe I need more food. If it does, its a signalling issue. Either way I am learning to listen to my body which can't be a bad thing??
                    Last edited by denise; 08-29-2012, 01:20 AM. Reason: spelling

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                    • #11
                      Sometimes I get really bad cravings after dinner - I think mostly because I used to nibble on smth all night. So it's a question of habit and at times - boredom. After going paleo the cravings have become much less frequent but they still raise their ugly little head from time to time. Sometimes I give in (and regret it afterwards because I usually have nuts or cheese - both are super high in calories and difficult to stop eating, especially nuts) but often I try the good old trick with some tea and it works. Or tea + 10g of 90% chocolate, if I am really feeling that I am depriving myself by not giving in. I usually make the tea before dinner, so it's there before I can snack on something else.
                      As JennGlob mentioned - calories matter too, especially for women and when loosing those last pounds. Recently I decided to go down to 15% bodyfat and had to follow very strict paleo plus watch my calorie intake to do that.
                      You mention "toning" - some heavy weightlifting would help to sort that out easier than diet alone. But diet is still 80% of success, I believe.
                      Last edited by inesenite; 08-29-2012, 01:31 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Anything with a sweet taste is a 'trigger' for me and can lead to massive overeating. So when I get a craving for something sweet at the end of a meal (happens frequently), I have either a cup of black coffee or plain green tea. Somehow that satisfies my urges.

                        If not, I just 'white knuckle' through because I know that giving in just reinforces a bad habit. Since I've been in the habit of ending a meal with a hot drink, it tends to be satisfying 99% of the time.

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                        • #13
                          On this forum you will find people who thrive doing the exact opposite of each other; some drop weight by guzzling fat and are extrememly carb phobic; others take a middle ground and have found that they've gotten over weight-loss stalls by adding carbs or upping calories. Some get past weight loss stalls by introducing intermittent fasting, and some (like me) who recognize how great good quality fat is can't lose fat by doing anything other than eating low-fat. In fact, every time I see someone post something about eating 1 piece of fruit per week and gaining 10lbs or something equally ridiculous-sounding, i'm reminded of how effortless it was for me to get down to 106lbs eating a TON of fruit every day (in addition to lean protein). We are a vaired bunch here...

                          The point is just to say that you may be one of the folks who will eventually thrive with high fat/low carb...and maybe you won't. Either way, don't be afraid to experiment, and be very kind and compassionate to yourself in the meanwhile. There are many factors that can stall weight-loss and one of the biggies is stress (as well as poor quality sleep, which the body recognizes as a stressor).

                          Also, women have a notoriously difficult time burning off fat from the lower part of the body; we are genetically designed to store fat there.

                          Why am I giving such a disclaimer? Mainly because this is easily the hundredth post from a woman struggling with low carb and difficulty losing those last few. Sure, maybe the answer is as easy as adding more fat, being more disciplined, etc...but in my opinion and from my personal experience, I think that women in general are probably better off with more carbs in their diets. For me, low carb eating was very helpful to gain control of my hunger, and it also really helped while i was recovering from an ED. But eating fat NEVER resulted in any weight loss for me. I only lost weight eating low-fat, and even then, the top part of my body became emaciated while the bottom part clung onto extra fat that it wouldn' t release no matter what.

                          So, ultimately, my advice is not very exciting: Concentrate on eating healthy foods that help you to understand and get in control of your hunger FIRST. Maybe this means eating a bigger, fattier dinner later in the evening, maybe it just means having some potatoes with your already adequate dinner. Whatever change you need to make, you're the only one who can figure out what it will take to cut the cravings. When the evening cravings are in check, then you can experiment with losing some fat (either by cutting back on fat or calories or changing an exercise routine or IF, etc...)
                          Last edited by BestBetter; 08-29-2012, 06:06 AM.

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                          • #14
                            i know this will be ignored.

                            if you are in your teens. stay primal... your hormones are doing a lot of things to you and for you and you want that to happen as naturally as possible. pushing yourself to meet some goal while so much is out of your control is setting yourself up for failure and disappointment.

                            When you hit 23 then focus on "correcting" today focus on prevention.

                            eat well
                            eat moderately
                            exercise moderately
                            get all your vitamins and minerals
                            drink your water.

                            please at least consider this.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by inesenite View Post
                              Sometimes I get really bad cravings after dinner - I think mostly because I used to nibble on smth all night. So it's a question of habit and at times - boredom. After going paleo the cravings have become much less frequent but they still raise their ugly little head from time to time. Sometimes I give in (and regret it afterwards because I usually have nuts or cheese - both are super high in calories and difficult to stop eating, especially nuts) but often I try the good old trick with some tea and it works. Or tea + 10g of 90% chocolate, if I am really feeling that I am depriving myself by not giving in. I usually make the tea before dinner, so it's there before I can snack on something else.
                              As JennGlob mentioned - calories matter too, especially for women and when loosing those last pounds. Recently I decided to go down to 15% bodyfat and had to follow very strict paleo plus watch my calorie intake to do that.
                              You mention "toning" - some heavy weightlifting would help to sort that out easier than diet alone. But diet is still 80% of success, I believe.
                              Everything you said.

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