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  • #61
    Originally posted by lissee View Post
    So I have a Paleo Lesson Learned (PLL) to add.

    Yesterday afternoon I was feeling really anxious and had the munchies. I finally switched over to being mindful about it, and analyzed what was going on. There wasn't anything at work that was setting me off, so I looked at my food. The only big difference was that I'd drunk about 10 oz of Carpe Diem Kombucha. And it has SUGAR added.
    Happy Day!
    Good for you for taking a step back, analyzing the situation, and then taking the appropriate action. I call this the "helicopter" view. When you are hovering in the helicopter, you have a full 360 view of what's going on and your decision-making skills include the whole picture -- versus the body's limited view (ie: I want carbs). I never fully understood the strength of the mind over the body until I became an ultra endurance athlete. The mind is so much stronger than the body if you can tap into those powers on a consistent basis. The body is more like a toddler child, impatient, self-centered and impulsive. When we indulge those whims, we end up feeling disappointed in ourselves, weak and frustrated. Again, congratulations for taking the helicopter view and working through the challenge. Onto another day!
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    F, 48, 5'10"
    Start Date: 25-06-12 @ 161lbs
    Goal Reached: 30-09-12 @ 143lb. Now bouncing between 145lb - 149lb. I'd like less bounce and more consistency :-)

    Started Cross Fit 20.12.12 ---- Can't wait to submit my success story on the 1st anniversary of starting primal.

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    • #62
      Day 10 of 30:
      Calories: 1,221
      Fat: 95.6gm
      Protein 78.5gm
      Carbs: 13.9gm
      weight: 151.4 (-3lbs) --- there's my swoosh.

      Not much to report today. Not much hunger. Ketosis continues to be a monster in energy...but not much interest in food.

      /That's all folks!
      Last edited by Louisa655; 09-07-2012, 12:01 AM.
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      F, 48, 5'10"
      Start Date: 25-06-12 @ 161lbs
      Goal Reached: 30-09-12 @ 143lb. Now bouncing between 145lb - 149lb. I'd like less bounce and more consistency :-)

      Started Cross Fit 20.12.12 ---- Can't wait to submit my success story on the 1st anniversary of starting primal.

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      • #63
        Day 11 of 30: (Friday)
        Calories: 1014
        Fat: 70.5 - 63%
        Protein 62.6gm - 26%
        Carbs: 29.3gm - 11%
        weight: 149.4 (-5lbs) --- there's my 2nd swoosh in 2 days.

        It's Friday and I'm sitting in the garden with my dog, about to crack into my next textbook. Should be a good elective: Strategic Negotiation (Think before you Speak!) --- it's like owning the first fax machine. It's always good to practice your skills with others who know how to 'argue by the rules' -- otherwise it can be an exercise in frustration.

        Although I'm happy to see the 149 on the scale, I'm not getting too excited until I'm in the 140's for a consistent week or two consecutively. I've been bouncing around between 149 and 154 for a few weeks, so I feel like it's a nice deja vue but my heart isn't fluttering until I see consistency.

        I had my hair done today (that's always a nice treat). I then purchased a tank top and silk sweater for the fall. I tried on the clothes and damn I look good! I came out of the dressing room and I asked the stunning, young sales girl, "Do I look skinny in this?" And she said, "Oh nnnnnnnoooooooooooo -- you don't look too skinny at all". I was killing myself laughing inside because I do look skinny, but she must have misinterpreted my question. She likely thought that I was worried about looking too skinny! Ahahahahahahahah It was hilarious! I know I'm losing weight when the collarbones are more prominent -- it's a good look on me because of my height. The extra weight I was carrying just made me look 'round' rather than toned. I dislike sounding so vain -- apologies for that -- just trying to celebrate the small successes here.

        I'm not so sure about the stats in fitfoods.com ---- I had a very small half rack of pork ribs and a salad for lunch and the calories showed up as 845 -- seems a bit inflated.

        I won't weight myself again until Monday. The plan is to do a lot of walking (and reading) this weekend.

        Cheers, everyone -- hope you all had a great week as you move into your weekends. /louisa

        /That's all folks!
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        F, 48, 5'10"
        Start Date: 25-06-12 @ 161lbs
        Goal Reached: 30-09-12 @ 143lb. Now bouncing between 145lb - 149lb. I'd like less bounce and more consistency :-)

        Started Cross Fit 20.12.12 ---- Can't wait to submit my success story on the 1st anniversary of starting primal.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Louisa655 View Post
          When we indulge those whims, we end up feeling disappointed in ourselves, weak and frustrated.
          This is sooooooo true!! We had a happy hour a week ago, and I remember looking at the cookies and thinking. You know? I think I'll have one of those. And then I paused for a moment, and thought back to other times I've given in at parties and remembered that they really don't taste all that good, and moment is fleeting, and then long term I'm stuck with a few day stall as my body catches up... Anyway, I decided not to have one, then I got distracted, and the next thing I knew the party was over and I was helping to clean everything up. Then I remembered the cookies again, of course they were all gone. And I was so happy, because I didn't feel deprived, only happy that I hadn't caved and made the gluten sensitivity flare up.

          Okay, so Louisa! I LOVE what the sales girl said to you! And no, it's not vain. I think that it's good to celebrate our successes. Come as they may.

          Okay, so I caught some travelers bug a couple weeks ago, and I've been trying to eat probiotics like crazy to help me build things back up, and I think the yeasts in the kombucha did a number on me! That and the cheese/broccoli casserole I made... I've not been feeling too good the past few days.

          Also, a note to those of you ketogenic fellows out there. It's not a very good idea to eat a TON of fiber when you haven't been eating a ton of fiber for a while. (That, and I was sick, so my gut flora is non existent...) According to SparkPeople, the casserole I made was 83% fat, and I don't remember the other numbers off hand, but they were good ratios. Anyway, yeah, I ODed. Waaaaaaayyyyyyyy to much fiber. I'll leave it at that.

          Just juiced myself some fresh carrot juice. Will it bump me out of ketosis. Heck yes. But carrot juice is supposed to be good for your gut... so I'm having a tall glass.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by lissee View Post

            Also, a note to those of you ketogenic fellows out there. It's not a very good idea to eat a TON of fiber when you haven't been eating a ton of fiber for a while. (That, and I was sick, so my gut flora is non existent...) According to SparkPeople, the casserole I made was 83% fat, and I don't remember the other numbers off hand, but they were good ratios. Anyway, yeah, I ODed. Waaaaaaayyyyyyyy to much fiber. I'll leave it at that.
            I hear you on the 'way too much fibre' topic. When I first started taking magnesium, I mis-read the directions, and I was taking 3 Tablespoons a day versus the correct amount of 2 teaspoons. Funny thing is that I was giving my husband the same dose ;p Looooong story short: The only thing that could have improved my 'overdose on magnesium week' would have been a voluntary colonoscopy --- God knows I was good and ready for it. Finally I realized the errors of my measuring ....and I adjusted the dosage. Unfortunately, my husband has declined taking any more of it: Poor man -- he likely couldn't leave the bathroom for the entire week ;-)
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            F, 48, 5'10"
            Start Date: 25-06-12 @ 161lbs
            Goal Reached: 30-09-12 @ 143lb. Now bouncing between 145lb - 149lb. I'd like less bounce and more consistency :-)

            Started Cross Fit 20.12.12 ---- Can't wait to submit my success story on the 1st anniversary of starting primal.

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            • #66
              I finished doing a four day fast last night with a break-fast meal of marrow bones (cuz I felt like it). They had a little meat around the shank but mostly I was eating all that fatty yumminess inside.

              I had lost 5 pounds on the fast and usually you bounce back up most of what you lost the minute you eat. Well this morning I was only up one of those five pounds. Hmmm. Perhaps lesson learned is that, when in fat burning mode, throw some more fat on the fire.
              I think the reason that people usually gain it all back so fast is that they reach for the carbs therefore bloat city. The bone marrow was what was calling to me last night. I had zero interest in fruit or potatoes.

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              • #67
                Oh no Louisa! I'm laughing, albeit with you, I've had my fare share of magnesium, ahem, overdoses as well. Can definitely relate.

                Paleobird, interesting lesson learned. I think there is something to your hypothesis, about what people choose to refuel with. 4 days seems a little long. Was it to experiment with the seizures/and health?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by lissee View Post
                  Paleobird, interesting lesson learned. I think there is something to your hypothesis, about what people choose to refuel with. 4 days seems a little long. Was it to experiment with the seizures/and health?
                  Yes. I am not really looking to lose any more weight at this point. But there is very interesting research that goes back to the ancient Greeks about fasting as a permanent cure in some cases for epilepsy. I'm thinking of this 4 day one I did as kind of a warm up for a longer one like 7-10 days sometime this fall (as soon as the weather is cooler).

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                    Yes. I am not really looking to lose any more weight at this point. But there is very interesting research that goes back to the ancient Greeks about fasting as a permanent cure in some cases for epilepsy. I'm thinking of this 4 day one I did as kind of a warm up for a longer one like 7-10 days sometime this fall (as soon as the weather is cooler).
                    Very, very interesting, and good luck!!! Please let us know how it goes.

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                    • #70
                      Another interesting thing was that, after that one very keto break-fast meal of marrow bones, I didn't get hungry at all yesterday. I finally nibbled a little cheese and a handful of pine nuts before bed but I could have skipped them entirely. And again this morning I'm just not hungry. It's like the fat burning machinery is running just fine and says, "Nah, thanks but we don't need any food, body fat is nom."

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                        I'm thinking of this 4 day one I did as kind of a warm up for a longer one like 7-10 days sometime this fall (as soon as the weather is cooler).
                        And I'm sure you have a collaborative relationship with your MD who would be supportive of this research venture. The human body is an amazing piece of machinery when everything is in balance. Let us know how it goes.
                        Last edited by Louisa655; 09-09-2012, 10:29 AM.
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                        F, 48, 5'10"
                        Start Date: 25-06-12 @ 161lbs
                        Goal Reached: 30-09-12 @ 143lb. Now bouncing between 145lb - 149lb. I'd like less bounce and more consistency :-)

                        Started Cross Fit 20.12.12 ---- Can't wait to submit my success story on the 1st anniversary of starting primal.

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                        • #72
                          Day 13 of Whole 30 *(3) - Saturday Sept 8 -- "Keep the Rubber Side Down!"

                          Day 13 of 30: (Sat)
                          Calories: 1080
                          Fat: 48.9 - 40%
                          Protein 59.2gm - 22%
                          Carbs: 48.9gm - 18%
                          Alcohol: 20%
                          weight: 149.4 (-5lbs) ---

                          It's Saturday and the day started with my husband taking me out for breakfast to our favourite little place. With a good menu and a flexible chef, it's easy to stay within the daily requirements. The next meal was dinner, followed by a near death experience, which resulted in me having two glasses of wine (more on that shortly).

                          Dinner was loads of veggies from our neighbourhood farm, and a really nice cut of steak. During dinner, and as dusk is starting to set, Hubby announces that the domestic bunny that I'm tasked with looking after, is 'missing in action'. We let the bunny out to roam the garden and hubby either fell asleep or didn't notice that bunny was MIA.

                          This newsworthy item led me to directly exiting from dinner in search of "Flapjacks". I couldn't find Flapjacks anywhere. My dog, 'Basil' was on the hunt with me and this rabbit was No Where to be found. Hubby joins in the search and it's starting to rain and it's getting dark.

                          I spot a small opening in our fence into our neighbour's yard and wonder if Flapjacks is over there. I use a chair to peer over our 12' privacy fence but can't see Flapjacks anywhere. Neighbours are away for the weekend and they "nail" their gates shut, so I couldn't get into their garden.

                          Next thing I know, Hubby who is 5'9" pulls up a chair to the 12' fence and begins to scale it, over into the neighbour's garden -- at which point there is a heart-stopping 'CRACK' and a scream. The 12' horizontal planking of the fence, and my husband crash 14' below, onto their stone steps. I rush over to the chair to peer over the fence, and my husband is bleeding from the head and not moving. I run around the front of our property to try to break into the neighbour's "Fort Knox" garden --- no deal. I run to the other side of their garden where their 2nd fence is bolted up with a padlock (what's with the heavy armour, me thinks). So, now I'm ripping the panels of their fence off. (Did I mention my husband is a surgeon and any broken bones is going to result in a problem for us?)

                          I'm calling to my husband that I can't get into the garden, trying to get his attention. He stumbles to his feet, and is bleeding from the front of his head AND the rear of his head. The rear gash was about 4" x 3".

                          Now, my husband is a man with a lot of pride, and he doesn't like anyone playing doctor to him. So, he starts telling me the diagnosis. Since neither of us can get him out of the garden in any safe manner --- the only option is for him to climb back over (it was an option that I didn't support, but you can't tell hubby anything). So, hubby, bleeding, clammers up 14' while I hold the chair steady on my side of the fence. I'm trying to 'help' him but of course, "I don't need any help". At this point, out of the corner of my eye -- I see bunny make a break for it, and run across our lawn --- SUCCESS! Flapjacks has returned!

                          So, long story short, hubby's not going to any 'damn hospital' and I ran for my surgical supplies. I come back out wearing surgical gloves, with ice, bags of frozen peas, gauze, bandaids etc etc. My hubby asks why I'm wearing surgical gloves (dah, so that I don't contaminate the wounds -- everyone knows that!).

                          Anyway, poor darling can barely move this morning and the front of his head, his eye, the back of his head are a mess. I don't know what he's going to tell patients tomorrow :0

                          SORRY FOR THE LONG EXPLANATION ON why I then poured myself 2 glasses of wine - - the thought of what COULD have happened sunk in and I needed a 'debriefing with a good Cab'.

                          This leads me to my Paleo Learning Lessons for Saturday:
                          1. Near death crisis situations call for red wine --- even when you are in a strict Whole 30;
                          2. Scaling fences, even as a fit, Paleo athlete may not be the wisest idea --- but bunny's life was at stake;
                          3. I fully expected to be knocked out of Ketosis Sunday morning, but not so. I pee'd on my ketosis stik and well -- the colours don't lie! So, I'm getting the sense that so long as I'm eating <40grams of carbs a day, and avoiding all sugars, that I can jump into and out of ketosis with ease. I don't want to test this theory with too much alcohol while trying to lose this last bit of weight, but I'll put it into the book of 'next research project' .

                          Workout: 10km fast walk before dinner.

                          I also had to put away 2 more pairs of pants because my bum has shrunken so much that the linen pants look ridiculous on me. I'll weigh myself Monday morning but I'm sensing that I may have gone south of 149 which would send me over the moon with excitement.

                          Must dive into my studies now, but feeling good that the dreaded grocery shopping is done and bone broth is bubbling away. Poor hubby is trying to keep moving to prevent from getting too stiff. He's running the Toronto Marathon in a few weeks and then the NY marathon in early Nov --- there is healing to be done!

                          Enjoy your Sunday, everyone --- As we say in cycling: "Keep the rubber side down" -- which now applies to the soles of my hubby's shoes ;-p
                          Last edited by Louisa655; 09-09-2012, 09:18 AM.
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                          F, 48, 5'10"
                          Start Date: 25-06-12 @ 161lbs
                          Goal Reached: 30-09-12 @ 143lb. Now bouncing between 145lb - 149lb. I'd like less bounce and more consistency :-)

                          Started Cross Fit 20.12.12 ---- Can't wait to submit my success story on the 1st anniversary of starting primal.

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                          • #73
                            WOW!! Best wishes for your hubby (and you, dealing with same). Reminds me of Jamie's description of fitness utility after the big NZ quake last year - you just never know when you're going to need it, but when the problem hits, you'll work with what you have.

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                            • #74
                              Yikes. This is one of those times when all you can do is be thankful it wasn't worse. And you got the bunny back so all's well that ends well. Healing thoughts to the Hubs.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                                Another interesting thing was that, after that one very keto break-fast meal of marrow bones, I didn't get hungry at all yesterday. I finally nibbled a little cheese and a handful of pine nuts before bed but I could have skipped them entirely. And again this morning I'm just not hungry. It's like the fat burning machinery is running just fine and says, "Nah, thanks but we don't need any food, body fat is nom."
                                Wow, you're right, that is VERY interesting! I wonder if it's because your body if pulling fat from fat stores, or if it's just become uber efficient at pulling those calories from the marrow, nuts, and cheese? Probably not a sustainable way to eat since you don't want to dim the metabolic burning machine so to speak, but it is a good thing to know that you probably will be able to do your fast just fine when the time comes. Just make sure you have fat to burn when the time comes! lol

                                So I watched a few video clips on youtube today about ketogenic diets, a few of the videos were about children on ketogenic diets, (like "Katie's hamberger meal" or something like that) anyway, it was so sad, but so touchingly hopeful at the same time.

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