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  • Originally posted by Goldie View Post
    I use it to make ground bison stroganoff!

    Oooooo! Recipe?!?

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    • Originally posted by lissee View Post
      Oooooo! Recipe?!?
      Er... well, I'm a free-spirit sort of cook. But here's an approximation:

      Ground Bison Stroganoff

      1 lb/454g ground bison
      About 1/2 onion, chopped
      1 clove garlic, minced
      1 bay leaf
      Two handfuls of sliced mushrooms (I have small hands, you might need only one handful)
      A glug or two of red wine or cooking sherry
      About 1/2 container mascarpone cheese (4oz/113g), or more if you want it cheesier
      Sea salt and freshly ground pepper to taste

      Saute the bison, onion, garlic, and bay leaf until the onion is slightly transparent (maybe 5 minutes?) Add in the mushrooms and wine, simmer until the sauce is reduced a bit and the bison is cooked (another 10 minutes or so). Reduce heat to low, stir in the mascarpone until it's melted--that doesn't take long!

      Serve over steamed zucchini "noodles", spaghetti squash "noodles", or kelp noodles. Don't eat the bay leaf!

      Makes enough for two primal people, plus leftovers for breakfast the next day!

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      • That sounds YUMMY!! Thanks for sharing!!

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        • Thank you for your post. I have only been following paleo for a month and have been very frustrated because I have seen absolutely no progress. The scale just won't budge. Prior to paleo I had been counting calories FOREVER and keeping my count at only 1200 per day and was constantly hungry. Calorie counting did absolutely nothing for me either. I've been told by other paleo followers to eat more calories and increase fat, but as stated before, that isn't working for me. So, this week I am going to try reducing my caloric intake to see if this makes a difference. I have no problem keeping my carbs at 50g per day but I think I initially went a little crazy with the fats. I would like to read more about deep nutritional ketosis.

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          • Kimberly how much weight are you wanting to lose? Also, keep a close eye on your proteins. In order to reach ketosis many will need to control their protein portions.

            Also, what was your eating like before paleo? For some people, their body needs to go through a lot of healing before they can release weight. One month feels like forever, but look to see if there have been any other positive changes besides the scale.

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            • Originally posted by Leida View Post
              Control weigh in: 122 lbs. Yes, another week-end that I managed without a carb up. I believe that seaweed is what gives me a huge weight gain after consumption, since it is so salty. I had a miserable day of water re-balance on Saturday (eww, the dashes). I can't believe I used to try to hit 'drinking water goal in my past subjecting myself to this kind of experience every day deliberately. I know that seaweed is important to iodine when you are on a low carb, but I am going to limit seaweed eating to 1 day a week, maybe on Monday or Tuesday so it rolls up with the weekend gain and clears fast.

              Overall, I feel positive, but I still crave apples very much. I have sweats and fatigue once in a while, and muscle soreness is still a 2 day event after any muscular exertion. Other than that, I find it relatively inconsequential.

              Yesterday, my husband and my daughter were sampling the chocolates that our aunt sent from England for our birthdays. It was not easy to stay in the kitchen, head down with working on making the sweet potato chips and hearing that the things were very pretty and very lovely. But the good control weigh-in helped. Now, I just have to get through baking the mini-cheesecakes on Wednesday night.
              Maybe you have or haven't read about this subject more since posting this about seaweed making you gain weight or retain water, but here goes....

              This is Dr. Andrew Weil's site from Dec 2006 A Seaweed Way to Weight Loss? - Ask Dr. Weil.

              And these are from the past year or two:

              1) 6 Best Sea Vegetables - 3 Fat Chicks on a Diet! famous weight ...

              Sea
              vegetables have gained a lot of popularity due to the important role they play in weight loss, detoxification and cellulite control. People who want to
              www.3fatchicks.com/6-best-sea-vegetables - Cached

              2)Healthy weight loss the natural way - Seaweed is the secret ...


              In order for you to achieve healthy weight loss ... richer source of vegetable protein sea vegetables. Taking seaweed daily gets you to achieve healthy weight loss
              www.oceanvegetables.com/healthy-weight-loss.html - Cached

              3.Boost Metabolism to Fight Weight Gain | PotentSea Organic Sea ..
              The health benefits of sea vegetables range from breast cancer prevention, to weight loss by boosting metabolism ...www.potentsea.com/boost-metabolism-to-fight-weight-gain.html - Cached
              "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
              "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
              "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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              • I don't eat seaweed for weight loss, as a protein source or for any miracle thing. Just to boost iodine, since I like cabbages and that + low carb diet supposedly screws thyroid, so I figure, I'd eat a bit of roast seaweed instead of popping a pill. I buy a 35 g package of bullweed and it lasts me a week or two. It tastes sort of like super-salty chips.

                I ate it today, and if I bounce a few lbs up tomorrow, I will know for sure that it is salt in seaweed keeping water put. Jillian said that 1 pickle could get you to hold on to like 2 lbs of water. That seaweed is saltier than a pickle.
                Last edited by Leida; 09-24-2012, 01:08 PM.
                My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                • Originally posted by Leida View Post
                  I am glad you are not offended. I am going to edit the post just in case. I will try not to express my feelings outside my Journal.
                  FWIW, Leida, I took your post as meaning that your weigh-in experience helped to reinforce your current way of eating in a situation that could have been tempting otherwise. I don't see any need to edit your post - you can't be held responsible for how anyone else will experience your own story.
                  Started Feb 18 2011

                  Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                  Journalling here

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                  • What Unicorn objected to is me calling myself names, depending on which weight range I fall into. I am very used to it, but since there is a concern that people might be projecting, I would listen to it. I just don't want to rise negative emotions in others by expressing my own. At any rate, I need to learn to express emotions in the Journal, where people expect exposes... hopefully!
                    My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                    When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                    • Originally posted by kimberley View Post
                      Thank you for your post. I have only been following paleo for a month and have been very frustrated because I have seen absolutely no progress. The scale just won't budge. Prior to paleo I had been counting calories FOREVER and keeping my count at only 1200 per day and was constantly hungry. Calorie counting did absolutely nothing for me either. I've been told by other paleo followers to eat more calories and increase fat, but as stated before, that isn't working for me. So, this week I am going to try reducing my caloric intake to see if this makes a difference. I have no problem keeping my carbs at 50g per day but I think I initially went a little crazy with the fats. I would like to read more about deep nutritional ketosis.
                      I'm in the EXACT same boat as you. I've been Primal for a month and I haven't dropped a lb!! I'm thinking that it may take time to adjust coz my insulin levels are well out of whack (I'm type 2 diabetic) I haven't had any grains, but I have had "primal" brownies a few times, sweet potato and milk - all of these things spike my blood sugar....not good

                      So, I've decided to start Whole30 in October - eliminating anything that could spike my blood sugar and dairy - and I won't weigh myself constantly (like I'm doing now)
                      Start Weight: 63.6kg/140lbs
                      Goal Weight: 54kg/118lbs

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                      • These two podcasts explain everything. Explains Paleobird's experiences. Explains mine. Even explains Leida's. If you are a woman, these two have the answers. They aren't pretty, but they are honest.

                        27: Jenny Ruhl | Overcoming The Problems With A Low-Carb Diet | Jimmy Moore Presents: Ask The Low-Carb Experts
                        23: Long-Term Stalls & Weight Gain Even On A Well-Formulated Low-Carb Diet | Dr. Stephen Phinney | Jimmy Moore Presents: Ask The Low-Carb Experts
                        Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                        • Thanks sbhikes!
                          Start Weight: 63.6kg/140lbs
                          Goal Weight: 54kg/118lbs

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                          • can you summarise the podcasts as i cant download something that big or is there somewhere on the net there is a transcript? from absolute personal experience, it is how much i eat that effects my weight. i am female and 47 too. last time i injured my ankle and couldnt walk properly, i lay in bed for something wild like 10 days ( other than getting up to send the kids to school and back ) and ate stuff all and the weight fell off. if i eat heaps and snack lots, even if i exercise heaps, i still put on weight. re: ketosis, i am just over 2 weeks of trying. no sugar, no grains and no carbs other than non starchy veges. i still feel very lack lustre. i am playing with ditching caffeine as well which could well be throwing a spanner in the works as last time i did that, i had to go to bed at about 7pm for 2 weeks solid! what does worry me tho is the fact i feel cold. i still freak about the thyroid thing. i have been trying to eat way more seafood as that piece of the low carb thyroid theory makes total sense to me.

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                            • Originally posted by seaweed View Post
                              can you summarise the podcasts as i cant download something that big or is there somewhere on the net there is a transcript? from absolute personal experience, it is how much i eat that effects my weight. i am female and 47 too. last time i injured my ankle and couldnt walk properly, i lay in bed for something wild like 10 days ( other than getting up to send the kids to school and back ) and ate stuff all and the weight fell off. if i eat heaps and snack lots, even if i exercise heaps, i still put on weight. re: ketosis, i am just over 2 weeks of trying. no sugar, no grains and no carbs other than non starchy veges. i still feel very lack lustre. i am playing with ditching caffeine as well which could well be throwing a spanner in the works as last time i did that, i had to go to bed at about 7pm for 2 weeks solid! what does worry me tho is the fact i feel cold. i still freak about the thyroid thing. i have been trying to eat way more seafood as that piece of the low carb thyroid theory makes total sense to me.
                              Hi seaweed, I'm hypothyroid and tackling ketosis again after doing it all wrong before. Here's a couple of tricks for when you start to feel cold (which is an indication of low thyroid). Firstly eat something, preferably something with easily digestible protein and fat. I find a hard boiled egg in my MCT oil mayo works really well. The second thing and this is almost more important, have some salt. Low carb causes our kidneys to flush a lot of sodium and that stresses the adrenals which are part of the compensation for low thyroid function. I use sole water and stir a teaspoon into a glass of water when I feel any symptoms at all. I can't stress how important including regular salt is and how much it helps.
                              My Journal

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                              • I wish there were transcripts as I hate listening to podcasts with a passion. But basically the takeaway message is:
                                - If you are female, especially if you are female and old, low carb works for weight loss because the appetite control helps you eat less.
                                - If you want to lose weight, you have to eat less.
                                - Count calories, get a food scale and weigh and measure everything. You will be very surprised how small a serving actually is.
                                - If you are old, you can't eat nearly as much food as a young person can.
                                - If you want to lose that last 20lbs you may have to live the rest of your life on a strict diet and endure a lot of hunger.
                                - There are many people for whom weight loss beyond a certain point is not possible. Those people should revise their goals to something more realistic.
                                - There actually are other metabolic things going on for a lot of people. Sometimes you need to see a doctor and yes, it's hard to find one who can truly help you.
                                - Also there is a lot that researchers simply do not know yet about metabolism. It may be that nobody can help you yet.
                                - If you lost a bunch of weight and kept it off, that's a huge victory. You are already in the top 2% or something of people who've lost weight if you've been able to keep it off for 6 months or a year. Enjoy that success. It's actually a huge success.
                                - Or maybe your success is you've gotten off all your meds, fixed your diabetes, can do things you couldn't do before. That's also huge.
                                - Most people have unrealistic ideas of success and that is usually encouraged by all diet books (including Mark's) otherwise they would not be able to sell the books (or probably get them published.)
                                - The dirty little secret nobody ever tells you is that your metabolism actually slows down with exercise (from 5% to 15% slow down).
                                - You never burn off as many calories as you think with exercise.

                                Long story short: Calories matter.
                                Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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