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    So, I spent the last week visiting my grandparents who are sufficiently indoctrinated to the CW ways of eating, to the point that when I even BRIEFLY mentioned my low-carb, primal diet with lots of IFing (they asked how I was so skinny and healthy looking) to them, they quickly reversed tact and told me that this kind of diet will kill me.

    Determined to change my ways, they fed me one of the richest, carb/grain heavy diets I have ever eaten (even when I was still eating SADly). Of course, to refuse the food they were serving, to tell them the diet that got them both to 85 years of age is entirely unhealthy would have been rude, uncalled for, and only make me seem ungrateful their hospitality. However, for the first three days, the results were predictable. I gained weight, lots of water weight definitely, suffered from massive, MASSIVE bloating, and had to fight off the urge to take a LONG nap after every single meal.

    About the fourth day there, I discovered, however, that they lived close to a Teavana. I love tea and have made it a regular part of my routine these days. My grandparents, however, are coffee drinkers (although I do enjoy the occassional cup of high quality joe). While at their place, I had no access to tea for the first few days, until I discovered the Teavana.

    Now, as some of you may know already, Teavana offers a drink bar, where you can order any tea they have on display and they will make it for you. I used the opportunity to explore a wide range of black, oolong, green, white, pu-erh teas and yerba mate blends. I abused that bar and spent WAY too much money there.

    Here's the kicker though. Upon reintroducing tea into my diet, without changing the other foods I was eating (didn't really have a choice anyway), my post-meal bloating dropped to almost zero, I never had the urge to take a nap, even after such heavy meals, and I lost the majority of the water weight I had put on.

    I went from feeling like crap constantly, to feeling pretty dang good all the time. Not as if I was on my primal diet of course, but definitely a 200% improvement. All from ingesting a beverage made from the leaves of a plant (well, ok, two plants if you include the yerba mate) that is high in antioxidants. Each type of tea has slightly different benefits, so I was probably reaping the benefits of including so many different types of tea in my daily consumption of course, but this was an amazing turnaround that came almost overnight. All in all, I'd say this stuff is pretty dang amazing.

    I'm not proselytizing here, but I'd say this is a pretty good indication that tea is a wonderful thing to include as a part of your daily routine.

    Oh well, back to primal living!
    "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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    I LOOOOOOOOOVE tea. Yerba mate is a favourite of mine.

    It's a Canadian company, but we have David's Tea here which is similar to Teavana: tea bar, huge selection of white, green, rooibos, oolong, puerh (sp?), herbal and mate teas. Really amazing concoctions...I am a hardcore addict! "Checkmate" is a black + white tea which tastes like chocolate. I shit thee not.

    Drumroll, a company here just got bought out by Teavana. You ought to try their White Samurai Chai. It's AMAZING!!!
    A Post-Primal PrimalPat

    Do not allow yourself to become wrapped up in a food 'lifestyle'. That is ego, and you are not that.

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    • #3
      Teavana had a drink which was a mix of their Ayurvedic white chai and their samurai yerba mate chai blends together. The sample was sweetened with sugar, but I had them make it for me unsweetened, and it was still delishious, both hot and iced.

      The fact that tea could make me feel so great, even when I was eating like crap multiple times daily, really made me think that this stuff is truly amazing.
      "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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      • #4
        Tea is a godsend!

        I find tea tastes better and more flavourful with a touch of honey, or my new favourite: coconut sap/sugar. Just enough to bring out the flavour; it's like salt in a way. But I don't sweeten white or green teas. Black/herbal/rooibos only.

        Teavana has amazing white teas: very floral, gorgeous scents and taste wonderful.

        I don't know if they ship to the US, but check out davidstea.com
        A Post-Primal PrimalPat

        Do not allow yourself to become wrapped up in a food 'lifestyle'. That is ego, and you are not that.

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        • #5
          I drink all of my teas unsweetened. The reason for this is because I want to be able to taste the unadulterated flavors of the teas (or yerba mate or tisanes, ect.).

          Some people might consider me a bit of a tea snob, and I suppose, rightly so. But I want to know what it is that I'm drinking actually TASTES like (and not just what I'm adding to it does). And I find that you are probably getting more benefits from the tea without the sugar anyway.
          "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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          • #6
            So you fixed the bloating, low energy eating problem by drinking too much caffeine, which is a diuretic and stimulant.

            Hey, whatever gets ya through the day! Gotta adapt to whatever situation we find ourselves in...

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            • #7
              Nah, not really that much caffeine. A cup of black tea or yerba mate in the morning, maybe an afternoon cup of green or oolong tea, and then white or herbal teas only in the evening.

              All told, it was probably close to 150 milligrams of caffeine a day. Mark himself said that levels of up to 300 milligrams are probably safe. How about those folks who sip espresso and coffee all day? I bet they're pushing 500 - 600 milligrams of caffeine a day. So all in all, I'm ok with the amounts I consumed.
              "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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              • #8
                150mg is two servings of Red Bull - three servings of Mountain Dew - nearly 5 servings of Coke - yeah, that is a lot.

                That some people go full on retard with this drug and consume even more doesn't change that fact.

                But again - ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

                Cheers!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DeeDub View Post
                  150mg is two servings of Red Bull - three servings of Mountain Dew - nearly 5 servings of Coke - yeah, that is a lot.

                  That some people go full on retard with this drug and consume even more doesn't change that fact.

                  But again - ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

                  Cheers!
                  Don't compare caffeine obtained through high quality pure teas with Red Bull and Coke. That's ridiculous.
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                  • #10
                    I agree that caffeine is a drug. This is, by and large, the reason why I do not ever go over 300 milligrams a day, and try to stay well below that. Research has shown that small doses of caffeine can be therapeutic and even beneficial to overall well-being.

                    Some people are sensitive to the effects of caffeine and should avoid it altogether. The majority of humans, however, unless they become habitual abusers (such as those you see consuming coffee at all hours of the day), are unlikely to suffer any ill effects from consuming reasonable amounts. Just like certain other things we talk about on this site (dairy comes to mind), it's all about determining your level of tolerance and keeping your consumption well within those levels.
                    "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Englishman in Oz View Post
                      Don't compare caffeine obtained through high quality pure teas with Red Bull and Coke. That's ridiculous.
                      This is so true. The chemical compounds in soda, energy drinks, coffee, tea, and yerba mate ALL effect the ways in which we absorb, react to, and tolerate the caffeine therein. My guess is, adding a ton of sugar (such as are in energy drinks and sodas) would increase the jitters and crashes caused by caffeine that unsweetened tea and yerba mate might not.
                      "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                      • #12
                        Espresso has less caffeine in it than regular coffee, as caffeine is water soluble. It takes about 20 seconds or less to make a single shot of espresso.

                        Tea has significantly less caffeine in it than coffee. You don't tend to steep black/white/green teas for longer than 3 - 5 minutes. Again, caffeine being water soluble, this makes all the difference. I would be surprised if drinking 3 - 4 cups of white/green/black tea a day even amounted to 150 milligrams. I doubt it.

                        Drumroll, I became a tea snob too. It's an expensive hobby :P
                        A Post-Primal PrimalPat

                        Do not allow yourself to become wrapped up in a food 'lifestyle'. That is ego, and you are not that.

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                        • #13
                          Actually, if I have it correct, the tea leaf has more caffeine than a coffee bean, but because coffee is a brew process and tea is a steeping process, a cup of tea tends to have slightly less caffeine than coffee. That can change, though, depending on how long you steep the tea. The longer you steep it, the more caffeine the tea will have.

                          I love my tea in the mornings. I have always liked tea but was a pretty heavy duty black coffee drinker for years. It used to be when I drank tea it had to have cream and a boat load of sugar or lemon and a boat load of sugar. About two years ago (right near the end of my last stint of working graveyards at a hotel...coincidence?) coffee just started tasting bad to me and I switched to tea. Black tea. At first it was standard bagged tea and then I discovered the wonders of a properly brewed pot of loose leaf tea. I don't have a Teavana near me but I am a fairly regular customer of Englishteastore.com.

                          I have fairly simple tea tastes, so a pot of strong Irish Breakfast in the morning makes me happy and saves the lives of those around me.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by patski View Post
                            Espresso has less caffeine in it than regular coffee, as caffeine is water soluble. It takes about 20 seconds or less to make a single shot of espresso.

                            Tea has significantly less caffeine in it than coffee. You don't tend to steep black/white/green teas for longer than 3 - 5 minutes. Again, caffeine being water soluble, this makes all the difference. I would be surprised if drinking 3 - 4 cups of white/green/black tea a day even amounted to 150 milligrams. I doubt it.

                            Drumroll, I became a tea snob too. It's an expensive hobby :P
                            Expensive hobby is so right! I'm about to break into a five pound package of unsmoked, unfired, unsteamed yerba mate tomorrow. That's gonna last me a LOOOOOONG time. And because it's completely untreated, the flavor should be amazingly smooth and green. Looking forward to it!

                            And maybe it was even less than I thought. I dunno, that was just my rough guess based on the usual caffeine amounts in tea that are quoted.

                            (IE black tea = 50-80 milligrams, oolong tea = 30-70 milligrams, green tea = 30-50 milligrams, white tea = 5-30 milligrams, and yerba mate = 50-100 milligrams)
                            "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                            • #15
                              RobinNM, it also has to do with the fact that you use more coffee beans per cup than you do tea leaves (tablespoon or even two, of ground beans, one teaspoon of tea leaves). Combine that with the brewing of coffee vs. steeping of tea that you mention and you have your explanation for why coffee tends to have more caffeine in general.

                              I started with black tea as well, but that was mearly a gateway for me. Now I enjoy almost all types of tea. In fact, I'm not much a fan of the strong breakfast blends. I go for a brew that tends to be less bitter and more flavorful.
                              "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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