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  • #16
    I like to go to a frozen yogart place where they serve you a portion. If that is the only indulgence I have, yes I can still lose weight. But it's a slippery slope for me
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    • #17
      After a couple weeks of close to 100% Paleo, exercise and slowly losing weight to 1 lb below my goal weight, I have no problem whatsoever eating up to 1/2 gal of my favorite ice cream, usually Haagen Daas or Turkey Hill All Natural. If it takes a few months off my life span, so be it!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
        You will lose weight if you're still at a calorie deficit throughout the weak. A big bowl of ice cream has a lot less calories than a ribeye steak, so adding a bowl of ice cream to your meal is less than that of a ribeye steak. If you're not losing weight, cut something out of your diet to make up the ground.

        I recommend you purchase an ice cream maker and make your own ice cream. You can control the ingredients and caloric content, all while producing a superior result. There are some decent ice cream choices out there with 4 or 5 ingredients, but I still find them all sickeningly sweet. I strongly prefer my own.
        Chocotaco, I still need some with making ice cream. I had some ben & jerrys yesterday and the taste taste and texture was just so perfect even though they use low fat milk. Would this be possible without all the oils & other crap?
        well then

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Gadsie View Post
          Chocotaco, I still need some with making ice cream. I had some ben & jerrys yesterday and the taste taste and texture was just so perfect even though they use low fat milk. Would this be possible without all the oils & other crap?
          Commercial ice cream makers are able to get that "perfect texture" even with low-fat milk because their machines allow them to whip air into the mixture. This is called "overrun" and can vary from 30-100%. At 100% overrun, that means half the volume of the ice cream is air. The contents measurements on ice cream is actually a VOLUME MEASUREMENT, not a WEIGHT MEASUREMENT. Take half a gallon of Haagen Hazs and half a gallon of Turkey Hill to the produce section and weigh them on a scale. You will find Haagen Dazs weighs far more despite the same volume, meaning it contains much more cream, milk and egg, whereas the Turkey Hill is mostly air (and no egg). You get what you pay for indeed!

          Home ice cream makers don't have the ability to whip air into the ice cream. To get good texture, it often requires more fat, more sugar and the use of alcohols and stabilizers (like gelatin) to play with the melting point. What are your goals with fat content? A few tricks I picked up:

          6 tablespoons of 80 proof alcohol is good for lowering the freezing point with low-sugar ice cream. Vodka will provide no flavor. Spiced rum accompanies vanilla ice cream well and I'll do 3T rum/3T vodka.

          When heating your custard, add 1 packet of unflavored Knox gelatine. Whisk vigorously and allow to sit overnight to thicken into pudding.

          Reserve 1 cup of heavy cream til the end. Fold the heavy cream into the now pudding-like custard.

          Whip the whole mixture with a hand mixer for a minute right before freezing. This helps get a little air in it.

          The more real sugar you use and the higher fat content, the less alcohol you need because sugar and fat doesn't freeze in a normal freezer. The lower you drop your fat content, the more gelatin and alcohol you will need to maintain consistency. Very low fat ice cream seems to fail for me if I use milk, but I can use 1% kefir from Trader Joe's with great results because it is so thick.
          Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
            Commercial ice cream makers are able to get that "perfect texture" even with low-fat milk because their machines allow them to whip air into the mixture. This is called "overrun" and can vary from 30-100%. At 100% overrun, that means half the volume of the ice cream is air. The contents measurements on ice cream is actually a VOLUME MEASUREMENT, not a WEIGHT MEASUREMENT. Take half a gallon of Haagen Hazs and half a gallon of Turkey Hill to the produce section and weigh them on a scale. You will find Haagen Dazs weighs far more despite the same volume, meaning it contains much more cream, milk and egg, whereas the Turkey Hill is mostly air (and no egg). You get what you pay for indeed!

            Home ice cream makers don't have the ability to whip air into the ice cream. To get good texture, it often requires more fat, more sugar and the use of alcohols and stabilizers (like gelatin) to play with the melting point. What are your goals with fat content? A few tricks I picked up:

            6 tablespoons of 80 proof alcohol is good for lowering the freezing point with low-sugar ice cream. Vodka will provide no flavor. Spiced rum accompanies vanilla ice cream well and I'll do 3T rum/3T vodka.

            When heating your custard, add 1 packet of unflavored Knox gelatine. Whisk vigorously and allow to sit overnight to thicken into pudding.

            Reserve 1 cup of heavy cream til the end. Fold the heavy cream into the now pudding-like custard.

            Whip the whole mixture with a hand mixer for a minute right before freezing. This helps get a little air in it.

            The more real sugar you use and the higher fat content, the less alcohol you need because sugar and fat doesn't freeze in a normal freezer. The lower you drop your fat content, the more gelatin and alcohol you will need to maintain consistency. Very low fat ice cream seems to fail for me if I use milk, but I can use 1% kefir from Trader Joe's with great results because it is so thick.
            I use about 30 grams of coconut sugar per pint. I use full fat milk and heavy cream. Your measurement of gelatin is for half a gallon right? How much is 1 package? I live in the netherlands so I don't have that brand of gelatin nor do I know how much a packet is, do you know the amount of gelatin in grams?
            And thanks for the rest of info
            well then

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            • #21
              Originally posted by tfarny View Post
              Ice cream (good stuff) is a lot better for you than other things you could be eating. You can always try the banana-based recipes.
              I like (love!)
              1/4 cup coconut milk, chilled
              1 frozen banana
              some chocolate flavor of some type. little vanillla etc if you are fancy.
              Blend in a food processor till its a soft-serve consistency and then love it.
              I just made this and it was great! Very easy and tasty.

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              • #22
                I've experimented with this all summer......... Nope - no weight loss. Today I threw out my lactaid pills so I will have no choice but to say NO to ice cream from this day forward!
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by denisedb View Post
                  Can I still lose fat & weight if I cheat on ice cream (~1 cup) once a week?
                  Sure, but you will break poor ice cream's heart. Why would you cheat on ice cream? What the heck did ice cream do to you?

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                  • #24
                    Wait and See. If you stall in your weight loss -- then you'll have to re=assess. If you are losing weight while indulging in your ice-cream, then continue on. Email us when you stall -- then there's no mercy!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Gadsie View Post
                      I use about 30 grams of coconut sugar per pint. I use full fat milk and heavy cream. Your measurement of gelatin is for half a gallon right? How much is 1 package? I live in the netherlands so I don't have that brand of gelatin nor do I know how much a packet is, do you know the amount of gelatin in grams?
                      And thanks for the rest of info
                      2 cups whole milk
                      2 cups heavy cream
                      1 cup 1% kefir
                      8 egg yolks
                      1 packet gelatin (7 grams)

                      That is my base for custard. If you can't get kefir, you can use half whole milk/half heavy cream in place, or just use another cup of whole milk. I find the kefir adds just a slight tang without imparting a "frozen yogurt" taste, which I'm not too fond of. It's almost like cultured butter versus regular butter - it adds volume and compromises nothing. Adding another cup of heavy cream makes it too rich IMO.
                      Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by scarabnight View Post
                        If you're going to do a store bought instead of making your own, Clemmy's offers full fat no sugar. It does have xylitol which Mark has posted here. The coffee one is awesome for that occasional splurge.
                        Those Clemmy's are tasty & mildly addictive, as I used to justify consuming the entire container in 1 sitting due to it's full fat, no sugar content. No guilt, no worries... But I haven't bought any Clemmy's since last summer, as I've tried to tighten up my diet & exercise more. I still eat a LOT of food & calories, don't count carbs or calories & things are goin' really good...

                        I'm not sure if an ice cream maker is really needed, as plopping the ingredients into the blender & setting up for a time in the freezer, or just adding ice to the blender to make a gelato type frozen dessert works for me. However, I'm sure the ice cream makers are nice(r).
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                        • #27
                          Seriously? You people think that if someone is primal but eats 1 cup of ice cream a week they wont lose weight? This is honestly the most strict diet ever created then. If you cant eat a cup of ice cream a week then this diet is probably bad for your mental health.

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                          • #28
                            Honestly, if my brain kinda sorta understands how all this works, a cup of ice cream once a week is better than a little tiny off primal once a day. IOW not all 80/20s are equal.

                            But do track yourself as mentioned above because we're all different.

                            Another thing you might try is to plan for it, i.e., do very low carbs the day before and the day after, this way your average carbs per day doesn't get too out of wack.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Kingofturtles View Post
                              Seriously? You people think that if someone is primal but eats 1 cup of ice cream a week they wont lose weight? This is honestly the most strict diet ever created then. If you cant eat a cup of ice cream a week then this diet is probably bad for your mental health.
                              You are right if you're talking about overweight people. A lot of people on here are chasing a 6 pack in middle age though. For those people, some of them, it might make a dif.
                              If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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                              • #30
                                Life's too short, honestly. Just eat some ice cream. One cup in particular is nothing. Hell, have two.

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