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  • #16
    Originally posted by DeeDub View Post
    Then all this has no more value than any other personality-led "because I say so" diet. The plain fact is that coffee is not in any way shape or form a primal food.
    "Primal" is a freaking brand name for whatever Mark happens to say it is. Since he just had a post about delicious coffee on this very website, today, I'm pretty sure it's primal. The jury is decidedly mixed on whether or not it's a health food.
    It's also a whole food by any definition I can think of.
    If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
      Try Crio Bru instead. It's roasted ground cacao nibs that you brew like coffee. More antioxidants, lower acidity. Just a sugestion
      Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
      Sounds like rich people food.
      Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
      What? Crio Bru? It costs about the same as a good bag of joe-- about $6 or $7 for 12 oz (also it's produced here in Utah, so of course I'm all about promoting a local product ).
      Crio Brü and Crio Beans are Rich in Antioxidants, Minerals and Natural Energy - Healthy Chocolate for Healthy Living

      P.S. ignore the Dr. Oz poster.
      I'm on an incredibly tight budget but this product looks/sounds so fabulous I'm definitely going to try it for my next 'splurge'. I can't wait! I'll try the Cavallo first. Sadly, with shipping it's more than double $6 or $7... Oh well.

      Now I have to try and sift through some of your prior posts to see if there are other nuggets like this suggestion that I may have missed.
      SW: 243
      CW: 177
      Goal: Health

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      • #18
        Coffee has numerous adverse effects on health. I have posted on these several times:

        coffee

        coffee

        Carcinogenic properties of coffee.

        A great example of how research can be manipulated

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        • #19
          Yes, but you are also biased. Perhaps when you were a little, impressionable boy somebody made a sad face when talking about coffee and you are forever scarred because of it. It's a plant product. You run water through it. If coffee is the devil, then so is tea, and so is spinach. Grow up.
          Crohn's, doing SCD

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
            Yes, but you are also biased. Perhaps when you were a little, impressionable boy somebody made a sad face when talking about coffee and you are forever scarred because of it. It's a plant product. You run water through it. If coffee is the devil, then so is tea, and so is spinach. Grow up.
            Yes, I have been scarred by real research studies. Please forgive me my Lord.

            I guess everyone does not realize that you can run hot water through any plant. And drinking the water after doing so with many plants can make one ill or kill them.

            And let's not forget all the antinutrients in coffee such as its high oxalic acid content and polyphenols to name a few. The caffeine that raises uric acid, the protease inhibitors and phytoestrogens that anti-soy proponents claim are toxic, etc.

            But the real irony of your post is the fact that caffeine crashes the adrenals. Since the adrenals produce our anti-stress hormones crashing your adrenals with all that caffeine can cause people to lash out in anger over small things like someone posting research studies on the adverse effects of coffee.

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            • #21
              Bravo!

              No sarcasm, that was a good defense. And I appreciate your staunch stance, in the face of this most recent study, which - as we all know - is just another study and proves nothing per se.

              I concede you have poked good holes in my arguments. BUT! What if coffee is good for some people and bad for others? As a person with all the obvious signs of asperger's syndrome, I find coffee necessary. Yes, I've quit. And it didn't take long to figure out how much coffee, primarily the caffeine as best I can tell, was helping me live my life well.

              Yes, I was a video-game, kool-aid and ritalin kid, so the confounding variables are many. But I can tell you, without coffee, I'd be likely to quit my job and walk to Canada and live in the forest. I snap without it, like a bored teenager. It not only keeps me focused on the day to day details like doing my job (microbiology lab assistant and phlebotomist), but it keeps me away from dreaming about escape, it keeps me grounded in the work of the day, focused on life instead of dreams.
              Crohn's, doing SCD

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              • #22
                Coffee - it does a body good.
                Health Benefits of Coffee - WebMD

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
                  Bravo!

                  No sarcasm, that was a good defense. And I appreciate your staunch stance, in the face of this most recent study, which - as we all know - is just another study and proves nothing per se.

                  I concede you have poked good holes in my arguments. BUT! What if coffee is good for some people and bad for others? As a person with all the obvious signs of asperger's syndrome, I find coffee necessary. Yes, I've quit. And it didn't take long to figure out how much coffee, primarily the caffeine as best I can tell, was helping me live my life well.

                  Yes, I was a video-game, kool-aid and ritalin kid, so the confounding variables are many. But I can tell you, without coffee, I'd be likely to quit my job and walk to Canada and live in the forest. I snap without it, like a bored teenager. It not only keeps me focused on the day to day details like doing my job (microbiology lab assistant and phlebotomist), but it keeps me away from dreaming about escape, it keeps me grounded in the work of the day, focused on life instead of dreams.
                  If someone really wants the caffeine or "needs" the caffeine why not just either take caffeine tablets to avoid coffee's anti-nutrients and carcinogens or at least go to more healthy sources of caffeine such as yerba mate'?

                  And regardless, if using caffeine support the adrenals to prevent most of the long term adverse effects of caffeine usage.

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                  • #24
                    heres goes the primal forums going crazy over a few cups of coffee, jesus christ (excuse me) but stop fussing over every little detail of your diet and enjoy life! when its your time to go your going to go, lol, the coffee aint gonna change it!!

                    2-4 cups a day here, and i can drink one right before bed with no issues.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by stumprrp View Post
                      heres goes the primal forums going crazy over a few cups of coffee, jesus christ (excuse me) but stop fussing over every little detail of your diet and enjoy life! when its your time to go your going to go, lol, the coffee aint gonna change it!!

                      2-4 cups a day here, and i can drink one right before bed with no issues.
                      Ironically I just posted why some people can go to sleep after drinking coffee recently:

                      Why do some people fall asleep after drinking coffee?

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                      • #26
                        Good article thanks for posting, however i dont drink it for the caffeine, i just love the taste.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by JamesS View Post
                          I guess everyone does not realize that you can run hot water through any plant. And drinking the water after doing so with many plants can make one ill or kill them.

                          And let's not forget all the antinutrients in coffee such as its high oxalic acid content and polyphenols to name a few. The caffeine that raises uric acid, the protease inhibitors and phytoestrogens that anti-soy proponents claim are toxic, etc.

                          But the real irony of your post is the fact that caffeine crashes the adrenals. Since the adrenals produce our anti-stress hormones crashing your adrenals with all that caffeine can cause people to lash out in anger over small things like someone posting research studies on the adverse effects of coffee.
                          Hiya, James. You can add coffee to the list of things you and I agree on.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
                            Try Crio Bru instead. It's roasted ground cacao nibs that you brew like coffee. More antioxidants, lower acidity. Just a sugestion
                            Dr. Bork Bork, I adore you in all of your well informed cleverness! I just ordered one of each of their six flavors!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
                              Try Crio Bru instead. It's roasted ground cacao nibs that you brew like coffee. More antioxidants, lower acidity. Just a sugestion
                              Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                              Dr. Bork Bork, I adore you in all of your well informed cleverness! I just ordered one of each of their six flavors!
                              I am anxiously awaiting the Cavallo. I hope you post reviews on the various flavors in your journal, PB, cause it was sooo tough deciding (especially that dark roast Cavallo...)
                              SW: 243
                              CW: 177
                              Goal: Health

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by KerryK View Post
                                I am anxiously awaiting the Cavallo. I hope you post reviews on the various flavors in your journal, PB, cause it was sooo tough deciding (especially that dark roast Cavallo...)
                                Ya, I was trying to decide too and then I just gave up and bought all six. If you buy over $75 (the six 1lb bags come to about $80) the shipping is free.
                                Reviews will be on my journal. Stay tuned.

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