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    Oh dear. I'm a medical transcriptionist and I go on a forum board for MTs. Someone posted a thread asking for opinions on Medifast and I came back and said, it's a bad idea and you should instead eat real whole foods and cut out all grains such as wheat, corn, etc.

    The response I got was "How do I never eat bread again and how is corn not a grain?"

    Wow. I'm going to try, because she did open the door by asking, but wow.

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    I seriously don't understand how people think it's so impossible to not eat bread. Eat everything else you normally put on bread, only eat it without the bread. Presto. Now you're eating without bread.

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    • #3
      Stop trying to explain it to other people. There is no need to preach. Live life for yourself and enjoy the fact that you found Primal Living.
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      • #4
        This confuses me too. I understand that we can be creatures of habit....but, every once in a while try something different. I have been loving this restaurant that serves grass fed beef burgers wrapped in lettuce with everything I enjoy on a "burger".

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        • #5
          I would always say to that person to try it for 6 weeks and see for herself. Corn as a grain vs not a grain is not so much nutrition as semantics. If you'd like to go all nutritional on her tell her to avoid starches and gluten proteins.... I find that the easiest way to start the conversion is to simply eliminate foods containing any flour.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gravyboat View Post
            I seriously don't understand how people think it's so impossible to not eat bread. Eat everything else you normally put on bread, only eat it without the bread. Presto. Now you're eating without bread.
            It's true, but at the same time I understand some people having a hard time wrapping their heads around it, just from a habit-based perspective on the world.

            When I started I was very sad about pesto, because I love(d) pesto, and pesto on sweet potatoes or cauliflower just did not compute for me. Now I never think about pesto. Until someone writes Presto and it makes me think of pesto.

            I think that harder than the people who just can't imagine it are the people who think they're really impressively denying themselves by only eating good bread. Or who eat better food but won't give up grains. "Oh, I've cut back on bread too!" they say, munching doritos and having croutons on salad and eating cereal in the morning. Sigh.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by beachrat View Post
              When I started I was very sad about pesto, because I love(d) pesto, and pesto on sweet potatoes or cauliflower just did not compute for me. Now I never think about pesto. Until someone writes Presto and it makes me think of pesto.
              I'm sorry for your loss. Maybe I should put a trigger warning on my post.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TorMag View Post
                Stop trying to explain it to other people. There is no need to preach. Live life for yourself and enjoy the fact that you found Primal Living.
                I try not to preach, but the door was opened by the other person asking the question. It has lead to some interesting responses and at least one other primal/paleo person also adding to it. The original poster seems to be very interested, so hopefully I've planted a seed.

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                • #9
                  Beachrat...I just had pesto chicken for dinner. It was delicious. As for corn as a grain, I still have to tell mymother that corn is a grain and not a vegetable. Growing up a common meal for us was spaghetti, garlic bread, and corn (for our veggie). She still makes that meal. Some people just won't get it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Penady View Post
                    Beachrat...I just had pesto chicken for dinner. It was delicious. As for corn as a grain, I still have to tell mymother that corn is a grain and not a vegetable. Growing up a common meal for us was spaghetti, garlic bread, and corn (for our veggie). She still makes that meal. Some people just won't get it.
                    Same in this neck of the woods. Seems like for human consumption, it is a veggie. Canned veggies go on sale at the store: Green Beans, Peas, & Corn. Or when it grows in the garden & you can it, freeze it, boil it, grill it, it is a veggie. For animals though, like cracked corn for chickens, ground corn for a calf or whole corn for a cow or whatever, then it is a grain. When it hardens, it turns into a grain
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                    • #11
                      Chicken pesto. Pesto on HB eggs? Actually it might be good on roasted cauliflower. Anyone tried it on spaghetti squash?

                      All I need is to start growing basil again.

                      Good trigger, Gravyboat.
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                      • #12
                        Give them a bowl of popcorn and ask, is this a vegetable???

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by beachrat View Post
                          It's true, but at the same time I understand some people having a hard time wrapping their heads around it, just from a habit-based perspective on the world.

                          When I started I was very sad about pesto, because I love(d) pesto, and pesto on sweet potatoes or cauliflower just did not compute for me. Now I never think about pesto. Until someone writes Presto and it makes me think of pesto.

                          I think that harder than the people who just can't imagine it are the people who think they're really impressively denying themselves by only eating good bread. Or who eat better food but won't give up grains. "Oh, I've cut back on bread too!" they say, munching doritos and having croutons on salad and eating cereal in the morning. Sigh.
                          I had to read your post a few times before I realized you meant you missed pesto because you didn't know how to eat it on something other than bread... I was like 'What is wrong with pesto??' I put two globs on my salad just now, it makes a great dressing too.

                          As far as corn, it's not intuitive that the soft yellow corn on the cob you grow up eating is a grain. But yeah if you make someone think about popcorn then they get it!

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                          • #14
                            Corn's a vegetable when I eat it. And yes, I do eat it.
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                            • #15
                              OP,

                              Maybe just tell them that grain or not, corn is pretty low on the bang for your buck meter. It's got a little sugar, lots of carbs, some vitamin C, a little fiber, a tiny bit of protein. Add to that the fact that more than 90% of the corn in this country is genetically modified (with some countries outlawing GMOs while ours doesn't even make labeling corn a requirement), and it's basically a food that is unnecessary, and if you're GMO paranoid as I am after reading the reports, why not give it up for a veggie that is healthful, and not screwed with by a laboratory.

                              Way before I ever found Primal, I'd given up corn (and its various byproducts) for primarily my health. The fact that every person I can turn away from corn helps to screw with the agribusiness/govt/alliance for poisoning citizens is just a bonus.
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