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  • #31
    Originally posted by dbalch View Post
    RE veggies I would certainly pay attention to the "filthy fifteen". For example, I never buy non organic peaches. which supposedly use alot of pesticides. But some fruits and veggies require fewer pesticides, so that's where you compromise for the lower price.
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    Wash and/or peel your produce! Most if not all pesticides wash or peel off. Organic or not, I'm more concerned with fecal matter and hepatitis from the farm worker and 17 year old stock boy hands that touched it from field to shelf, than I am with pesticide residue.
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    • #32
      This family of 6 eats 6 dozen eggs per week. I switched over to pastured from the local health food store. They get them from a local operation that operates "chicken tractors", so the chickens do see pasture. Otherwise, I try to get as many as I can from a local farm stand just up the road - from the farm stand itself, which is in a tiny town, I can see the chickens in question. The cost for the health food store eggs is about $2.65 per dozen, and for the farm stand is $2.00 per dozen. I would get a steady supply from the farm stand, except they only have a few to sell as the lady who raises them uses most in her baking, and doesn't have a regular supply left over.

      As for the taste - no comparison, in favor of the pastured. The yolks are deep in color, the shells are super sturdy, the flavor clean and not of some godawful fishy-smelling feed the factory chickens must have been fed to produce such a stink. Pre-Primal, I got my cheap eggs at the Dollar General Market for $1 per dozen, and would sometimes get a stomachache off of them. For my money, it is now the pastured all the way.
      I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
        Thanks for the tips. I already eat liver and I have been since my 20s. The only difference now is that instead of the cheap staple it once was, it's organic and is about $4.00/lb. I do keep a list of the clean 15 and dirty dozen in my purse for when I go shopping.

        As to gluten free bread, when I made the commitment to myself to stop eating processed foods (before I'd ever even heard of PB), one of the things I committed to was to not eat anything cooked that I couldn't eat raw. If it's processed, it's processed. As I get rid of the processed foods that I was used to eating, I'm not going to replace them with new processed foods just because they're primal approved. IOW, I'm not going to replace wheat flour with another flour. I'd rather just learn to live without flour. That's just me. I also don't eat anything from a can - also not a PB directive.

        I also don't currently have the storage to buy half an animal. I do currently have an order in for 20 lbs of wild salmon from an online company that will save me about 25% over local prices.

        I'm as against agribusiness as you are. I actually kinda think that Monsanto should be renamed, "Satan, Inc." So we're not that far apart in beliefs. I guess I just figure that a lot of people on this board are doing the best they can. And if someone wants to hold the line on the cost of some things, they should be able to do that without feeling bad about it. Anyway, it's all good.
        I use some gluten free bread and pasta products because I feel too deprived eliminating all bread and baked products from my diet. These foods keeping me from "falling off" my primal diet, so they are very important for me. They are mostly tapioca and potato starch, with some rice flour. Not much of a compromise.

        It would be nice if liver was cheaper, but it's the cheapest meat I buy. I have a really good beef supplier who sells me ground beef for $4.99 a lb and occasionally has a 20% off 5 for 4lb. bulk sale. I'm thinking of buying a half a goat for $150. It should yield about 18 lbs. of meat. That's a little over $8 a pound. Expensive, but that's as cheap as you can get local, pastured lamb and goat around here. I feel lucky I'm even able to buy it, given that the FDA/food industry is trying to run all these guys out of business with bogus food saftey regs.

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        • #34
          I would never buy caged eggs - the chickens are rammed into cages and treated like sh!t. I don't know how anyone could buy caged eggs knowing this, it is incredibly cruel. Over here there are laws being brought in to ban battery eggs, thank god. It won't come in yet but laws are getting more strict concerning animal welfare which is good for both animals and people who will eventually eat those animals. I can't afford organic eggs every week but we can afford free range and they are worth few extra euro. Many of the supermarkets over here have a "no battery/caged eggs" policy which is great and it helps bring down the price of free range and organic eggs.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by HazelPrimalNut View Post
            I would never buy caged eggs - the chickens are rammed into cages and treated like sh!t. I don't know how anyone could buy caged eggs knowing this, it is incredibly cruel. Over here there are laws being brought in to ban battery eggs, thank god. It won't come in yet but laws are getting more strict concerning animal welfare which is good for both animals and people who will eventually eat those animals. I can't afford organic eggs every week but we can afford free range and they are worth few extra euro. Many of the supermarkets over here have a "no battery/caged eggs" policy which is great and it helps bring down the price of free range and organic eggs.
            Hazel, I see you also live in Ireland so perhaps a quick question. I haven't really looked into this myself, but what are the eggs like that are sold as "free range" in supermarkets in Ireland and the UK? Sometimes I have the impression things are much better in Europe than in the USA (where most members of this forum are from). For now I am sticking with duck eggs (yummy, you should see those yolks!!) that I buy from a local market here in Antrim, but I do buy the free range eggs from Asda without really knowing much about the origin.

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            • #36
              This is older information, but I don't see anything updated when I search: Egg Carton Labels : The Humane Society of the United States

              So, if I'm reading correctly, the best you can hope for health wise in a grocery store or any producer where you haven't actually seen the farm, is Certified Organic, because basically that's the only legal definition of what is described on the box/container of eggs. The chickens are still treated badly, but the product falls within the US "organic" guidelines.

              All of the guidelines pertaining to living conditions (including the ones by the American Humane Association) are so vague as to be merely marketing terms/ploys.
              "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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              • #37
                there are egg farmers, working on a certain scale, who do have websites, explaining their methods and philosophies. worth checking out imho.

                my go-to in the supermarket is nellie's eggs:

                Nellies Nest: Nellie's Nest Cage-Free Certified Humane Eggs

                this discusses the maze that is current egg labeling.


                http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/di...r=1&ref=dining

                As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                Ernest Hemingway

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
                  This family of 6 eats 6 dozen eggs per week. I switched over to pastured from the local health food store. They get them from a local operation that operates "chicken tractors", so the chickens do see pasture. Otherwise, I try to get as many as I can from a local farm stand just up the road - from the farm stand itself, which is in a tiny town, I can see the chickens in question. The cost for the health food store eggs is about $2.65 per dozen, and for the farm stand is $2.00 per dozen. I would get a steady supply from the farm stand, except they only have a few to sell as the lady who raises them uses most in her baking, and doesn't have a regular supply left over.

                  As for the taste - no comparison, in favor of the pastured. The yolks are deep in color, the shells are super sturdy, the flavor clean and not of some godawful fishy-smelling feed the factory chickens must have been fed to produce such a stink. Pre-Primal, I got my cheap eggs at the Dollar General Market for $1 per dozen, and would sometimes get a stomachache off of them. For my money, it is now the pastured all the way.
                  Wow, I live in canada, and my cheap grocery store eggs are $2.50 per dozen on sale! "free range" or " veggie fed" or " omega 3" are 4 or 5 dollars per dozen

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by FlyingPig View Post
                    Hazel, I see you also live in Ireland so perhaps a quick question. I haven't really looked into this myself, but what are the eggs like that are sold as "free range" in supermarkets in Ireland and the UK? Sometimes I have the impression things are much better in Europe than in the USA (where most members of this forum are from). For now I am sticking with duck eggs (yummy, you should see those yolks!!) that I buy from a local market here in Antrim, but I do buy the free range eggs from Asda without really knowing much about the origin.
                    Free Range eggs - The Irish regulations state that hens must have continuous day time access to open-air runs on ground which is mainly covered with vegetation. The maximum stocking density is not greater than 1,000 hens per hectare of ground available to the hens and the land must be dedicated to the free range flock, so no other animals can graze it. The hens must be accommodated in a well constructed insulated house with a floor space of one square metre per seven birds.

                    The UK regulations could be different. I only buy eggs produced in ROI.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by HazelPrimalNut View Post
                      Free Range eggs - The Irish regulations state that hens must have continuous day time access to open-air runs on ground which is mainly covered with vegetation. The maximum stocking density is not greater than 1,000 hens per hectare of ground available to the hens and the land must be dedicated to the free range flock, so no other animals can graze it. The hens must be accommodated in a well constructed insulated house with a floor space of one square metre per seven birds.

                      The UK regulations could be different. I only buy eggs produced in ROI.
                      Thanks. It looks like it is less strict in the UK indeed: "continuous daytime access to runs which are mainly covered with vegetation and a maximum stocking density of 2,500 birds per hectare. The hen house conditions for free range hens must comply with the regulations for birds kept in barn systems, with a maximum stocking density of 9 hens per square metre of useable area." Oh well, time to find some local people who have their own chickens, or I might just stick with the duck eggs (even though I also need to find out how exactly those are kept).

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                      • #41
                        Vital Farms seems to have a pretty good reputation in terms of a large production pastured egg that can be found in many stores. That is what i use when I get grocery store bought pastured. Their chicken farms are all around the Austin, Texas area. They have an organic pastured brand as well as a non organic pastured (which is sold under the Alfresco Farms label). Both products taste pretty good and have nice orange yolks.

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                        • #42
                          Beef hearts from my supplier are $1/lb. I picked up two more this weekend. I found a great recipe for paleo heart stew, and I cut up the heart into cubes for the stew. Really delicious!

                          I've also noticed a difference in locally grown vs. store bought cantaloupes. Locally grown cantaloupes are sweeter and have significantly more flavor than store bought. Now if I could only find a local source for avocados...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Sandra in BC View Post
                            Wash and/or peel your produce! Most if not all pesticides wash or peel off. Organic or not, I'm more concerned with fecal matter and hepatitis from the farm worker and 17 year old stock boy hands that touched it from field to shelf, than I am with pesticide residue.


                            Bad advice. I agree that there are issues with E.Coli contamination - usally commercial growers using CAFO waste as fertilizer, which is less problematic with small, local, sustainable farms. But the idea that you can just wash off pesticides is untrue.

                            Systemic Pesticides: Chemicals You Can

                            There is also an entire new class of pesticides called neonicotinoids that go from being sprayed on the seeds at planting to winding up in the human bloodstream. They're used primarily on stuff Primal shuns (corn, soy, wheat, sugar beets, canola, cottonseed), so another good reason to stick to PB.

                            But the idea that pesticides shouldn't be cause for worry is... worrisome. We're living in a toxic stew of endocrine disrupting cleaners and health and beauty products, GMOs with unknown effects, artificial colors and flavors, and how all this interacts in our body is one big crap shoot, and we're the lab rats. No thanks. I'd rather minimize risks in any way I reasonably can, and buying organic (especially the worst offender fruits/veggies) is a pretty easy option to take.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by jojohaligo View Post
                              Joel Salatin (Polyface Farms, The Omnivore's Dilemma) gave a talk in our town and he promoted "local" over "organic." Organic salad for example can be grown on a monoculture farm with farming practices that still might not be ideal. Where local is by far easier to check what the growing/raising conditions are.
                              Yep. One of my first ever grass-fed beef farmers had a long discussion with me on what can be labeled organic. I think the organic label is less important with meats than with fruits and vegetables - if they're raised on pasture, what distinction would "organic" make unless referring to supplemental feeding?

                              If you have a good relationship with your farmer, even if they're not certified organic you can ask whether they treat specific crops with pesticides, and if so which ones. Information is your best friend.

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                              • #45
                                Pastured a thousand times over. There is no comparison. Taste, nutrition, quality. There are no benefits to grocery store eggs, and you continue supporting the factory farm industry. Vote with your dollars.

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