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  • #16
    I never plan for cheat days...that is daft. BUT I am not going to miss a pot luck, I may pick and choose a bit but live life and enjoy.
    Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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    Don't forget to play!

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    • #17
      I subscribed to primal mindset about a year & half ago, & for the first 6 months, I cheated twice a week.. Pizza/ice cream.. Next 4-6 months, I cheated about once a week, nachos supreme/wings, some ice cream.. but I starting paying attention to how horrible, bloated, stuffed & kind of miserable the cheat felt in my body.. & the food honestly didnt taste as good as it used to, didnt "hit the spot" like it used to.. For the past 6 months, I actually find myself happily explaining to my friends & family (when offered "cheat food"), "no thanks.. That stuff will have my stomach crawling, night sweating, & my ass shitting through a screen.. I can't eat it" they laugh & actually start explaining to me why they feel justified eating the fake food.. Pretty funny & actually somewhat powerful position to be in.. Most people KNOW right from wrong, but most people are lazy & sheep-like.. I think we are leaders, being unique & defending our health is attractive, establishes confidence & confirms self-esteem..

      Anyway, I digress.. Yes, I used to cheat. Really don't now.. My cheats come more in the form of alcohol binges, & drinking the ENTIRE bottle of wine, or multiple vodka/waters.. But I love to party & have a great time getting Buzzed & sometimes shit-faced hammered with friends & my girlfriend.. The freedom & "cloud 9" excitement of a good buzz is kind of a blast to me.. But this too will tighten up shortly & naturally.. I'm becoming addicted to feeling fresh, organic, fantastic, thinking clear & remaining hydrated.. & the hangovers seem to get worse the cleaner my body is (of course)
      Last edited by abc123; 08-09-2012, 10:26 PM.

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      • #18
        Pics look pretty good, just keep doing what you are doing and like others said, don't focus too much on the numbers, it's a lifestyle not just a diet, so along with food & exercise, add some mental/emotional moderators for stress management yoga, meditation etc. learning to be still in body & mind is just as important to good health.
        As for cheat days, like Dirlot says, I don't plan them, I look at it like the Hunter Gatherer who finds a beehive, pig out today and enjoy it, but it's a rare occasion, I try not to keep too many temptations in the house, but like abc123 said, the longer you go down this path, the less desire you have for the so called bad "treats", they just don't seem to hit the spot like they used to.
        "There are no short cuts to enlightenment, the journey is the destination, you have to walk this path alone"

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        • #19
          Originally posted by the_puma View Post

          Anyway... here are a couple of pics of me. I will post them as links just in case... disregard the booty shorts please! I was trying to wear minimal clothing without resorting to underwear :P

          Cheers!

          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../forforum1.jpg

          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../forforum2.jpg
          You're a tight little package. Why, I'd tear into....
          uhhh, mmm. I mean, uhhhhh...

          Yeah, you look fine.

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          • #20
            hahaha uhh thanks, Piscator :P

            and thank you everyone else as well. I would really look forward to not craving those treats as much. I usually have pretty good self control around them and don't eat huge servings but I do look forward to my cheat days all week so that's probably not the mindset I want to be in. I will try to stick to this and deal with the temporary setbacks.

            Has anyone experienced a worsening in any digestive issues while getting used to it? I've had stomach problems for the last few years and have to go through periods of PPIs (proton pump inhibitors like Prilosec etc.) every now and then because I get constant stomach aches/heartburn/gnawing pains like hunger pangs which trick my body into thinking it's hungry (trust me I can tell those from real hunger pangs because they can go on all day regardless of how much I eat). The last couple of days it's gotten worse. Could it be just my body going through adaptation? I usually have trouble eating large meals in general because they make my stomach worse and I can't eat things like raw vegetables for the same reason. Same with large amounts of nuts.

            Sorry for all the extra questions! And thank you again.

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            • #21
              Not an expert with those symptoms,
              Maybe the gut flora needs support, possibly adding a good probiotic supplement.
              Do you eat Yoghurt or soured veg like saurkraut, a lot of people drink kefir, I haven't tried it but it's on my list of to do's.
              Other than that soups & good bone broths are nutritional and easy on the digestive tract.

              I'm sure someone else with more specific guidance will chime in.
              "There are no short cuts to enlightenment, the journey is the destination, you have to walk this path alone"

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              • #22
                I've never taken a proton pump inhibitor but I read this short account of one person's experience. She's got a lot of info about her journey through IBS and GERD. She's had to do different things than just eat paleo or primal so you might find some info looking around her site.
                Proton Pump Inhibitors Suck | Melissa McEwen's on food anthropology, economics, and culture
                Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                • #23
                  Oh I've actually read it believe it or not, I know PPIs are not good for you and I try not to use them for more than a couple of weeks at a time with a couple months' break in between. They make things worse after a while. And it's dangerous to have such a low stomach acidity for a long time. All sorts of badness can ensue.

                  Omni, I've actually found a great whey powder that is probiotic. It's New Zealand whey (so grass fed) and no additives, if only I could find larger packages... they only come in supplement bottle size here in Toronto. I can't eat a lot of yogurts for some reason, they tend to make my digestive tract happy but they affect other health issues I have negatively (I won't go into it). I try to have sauerkraut every now and then but you can guess it's hard to eat a lot of it, very salty... though delicious and full of natural probiotics. I think I'll stick to the protein powder and see how things go. Thanks!

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                  • #24
                    Puma - I had the same problem; I was addicted to cereal (granola, no less). Now, I never think about it. I did P90X and put on a ton of lean muscle, so while the weight didn't drop like I thought it would (like when you starve yourself!), my body shrunk like crazy. Also, consider that your bones and organs offer weight on that scale. I love considering this, since I did a number on both while not eating properly...or at all.

                    I recently decided to rid my fridge of dairy and transitioned from berries to avocado. I was addicted to those, as well, but as I just took the steps to remove them and replace them w/ fats and meats, I never got the cravings back. It doesn't happen in one day, but it happens pretty quickly, considering the cravings. Once I got rid of that stuff, everything started changing. It might be specific to me, but it was suggested by (well, the book) and others; I didn't think I could pull it off, but I've been free of both for about 3 weeks and I could care less.

                    Your weight seems pretty right on in terms of health; but I understand that the scale screws with you. That's another thing I tossed. I now consider my body, my rapid ball of energy…as opposed to a withering one that can’t even get the automatic dryer in the girl’s bathroom to work. Now I just walk by and the paper towels fly right out Now I have and am energy!

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                    • #25
                      It seems from what I am reading that I shouldn't be eating any fruits at all... in that case, I don't know what to eat, really. Nuts are very self limiting, since my stomach is very sensitive and gets upset when I eat too many of those. Same with protein, I simply cannot eat large servings. I know the solution might just be eating more often but I don't know what to eat often... sometimes I don't want anything, it seems.

                      Not to mention that I don't think fruit is bad at my body composition. I don't know. I eat dairy too every now and then (like a cappuccino with lactose free milk a couple of times a week or a small piece of cheese here and there). I don't want my diet to become torture because I am treating it as religion. Perhaps I just need to learn what to make for myself, and carry snacks around. Gotta find the time I guess, which I have very little of.

                      I like the "ball of energy" analogy, heatherdarbs lol I just imagined the paper towels flying out at you :P very nice!

                      But yes, still going nuts with cravings. Yesterday I almost went mad eating out with my friends when they all had their all-day breakfast with fries and I was sitting there with my salad. Even the pile o-sausages and bacon on my plate did not satiate me.

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                      • #26
                        so guys... the crazy hunger is getting better! My stomach is still upset but I find it easier... I'm not thinking about food all the time and I've been cooking for myself! I even made chicken stock out of leftover roast chicken bones!

                        I do allow myself a couple of pieces of dark chocolate a day, it helps tide me over, otherwise my only other "cheat" which wasn't really a cheat was an extra apple which probably put me over 100g of carbs but it immediately stopped my hunger (this was after a full meal and I was still feeling hungry) and it lasted into the next day. I guess I just needed that apple!

                        So... it does get better!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by the_puma View Post
                          so guys... the crazy hunger is getting better! My stomach is still upset but I find it easier... I'm not thinking about food all the time and I've been cooking for myself! I even made chicken stock out of leftover roast chicken bones!

                          I do allow myself a couple of pieces of dark chocolate a day, it helps tide me over, otherwise my only other "cheat" which wasn't really a cheat was an extra apple which probably put me over 100g of carbs but it immediately stopped my hunger (this was after a full meal and I was still feeling hungry) and it lasted into the next day. I guess I just needed that apple!

                          So... it does get better!
                          It does; I promise! Protein doesn't fill me up either, so I end up eating a ton of chicken and turkey and admittedly, I appear to be shrinking. Just like anything you have to give it chance, stick with it and be patient. If you don’t take risks, you remain stagnant. Also, you may need to actively redirect your focus for the time being, when you find yourself obsessing about what and how much you’re doing and what and how soon results will surface. You know the old adage, “…when you least expect it”

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                          • #28
                            I do need to redirect my focus because I eat a lot more than I did before actually and all I keep thinking all the time is "oh god I am going to gain weight on this"... I keep reminding myself that if I am doing it for the sole purpose of losing weight then that's not the right goal. Health is the right goal. It's harder to assess progress because me and the scale are a no-no combination, that's not happening... so I have to go by what I see in the mirror which as you know is not true either! :P It's such a weird situation to be in. I am trying to go by how I feel - if I have energy and I'm happy then I am doing something right.

                            Just wish my stomach would stop hurting

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