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  • #16
    I would tend to agree that you dont need salads...sometimes excess veggies have been making me hungrier sooner (filling up on fiber instead of protein and fat I guess). Eggs are a go-to for me as well. 2 scrambled eggs will destroy any craving!
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    • #17
      I like the chicken drumsticks and hard boiled eggs suggestion. When I was first starting out eggs were my go to snack. These days an avocado cracked open and sprinkled with a little sea salt is my favourite snack. I love the rich creamy texture. They taste so sinful to me I keep having to remind myself that they are so healthy!
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Lawyerchick12 View Post
        I d be careful recommending so much fat to newbies who are still trying to determine their individual tolerance to THAT much fat... #justsaying
        This. Beat me to it.

        To the OP: it's already been said, but 'falling-off-the-wagon" is what's holding you back. Stick to your guns, because it's very hard to get back on when you've slipped off for long enough!

        Eat veggies you like, and rotate. As long as you're not struggling with weight, I say eat sweet potatoes roasted with loads of butter/coconut oil and cinnamon. I find roasted asparagus filling and delicious. Eat avocados! Yum!

        Don't go crazy with nuts; they're also full of the same stuff wheat is, and we avoid that stuff for good reason. Macadamias are still the best if you do want nuts here and there. But they are crazy addict and expensive!

        Lastly, keep a food journal. Track what you eat, and how you felt after. Do this for a few weeks at least, and see if you notice any patterns in how you feel eating leafy greens vs. starchy veggies vs. cruciferous veggies (broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower), and the amount of meat vs. fat you're eating. It's fascinating to see what keeps you fuller the longest, how well you tolerate fat as you increase it, what pisses your belly off, and what helps ya poop, LOL But seriously, keep a food journal.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by solstice View Post
          I would tend to agree that you dont need salads...sometimes excess veggies have been making me hungrier sooner (filling up on fiber instead of protein and fat I guess).
          Wow. I thought I was the only one!
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Lawyerchick12 View Post
            wow...u are one of those fat pushers aren't ya lol...well whatever works for ya I suppose! I d be careful recommending so much fat to newbies who are still trying to determine their individual tolerance to THAT much fat... #justsaying
            Have you tried it? I was one of the "Oh, no, we older women can't do all that fat. We are different" people. I used to go around posting to all the fat-pushers that their advice wouldn't work for me. Then I got to the point where I Just. Couldn't. Eat. One. More. Damn. Salad. I had nothing to lose. So I tried it.

            I was SHOCKED! It actually worked. Not only did it not make me fat, it didn't make me overeat. It took away all my cravings, all my food obsessions. And it made me slim. Furthermore, it made me calm and fixed the anxiety and depression I've carried around all my life. I believe I can keep a job now.

            When you get to the point you can't do it anymore and nothing is working, if you haven't tried eating real meat with the skin and/or fat still on and butter, cream, eggs, sardines and salmon, give it a shot. What would you have to lose by then?
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Lawyerchick12 View Post
              wow...u are one of those fat pushers aren't ya lol...well whatever works for ya I suppose! I d be careful recommending so much fat to newbies who are still trying to determine their individual tolerance to THAT much fat... #justsaying
              Originally posted by RedFalcon View Post
              I've been off/on primal for several months now - and I am not at all even close to being a fat burner yet.
              Well gee, what is the OP asking for? To be a fat burner? What is she eating for breakfast? A ton of fruit and veggies only and NO FAT?

              *shrug* I think you're being a little too harsh here. The OP obviously needs more meat/real food and sbhikes suggested exactly that.
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              • #22
                Grok and Grokina probably ate greens in the spring. I am sure they didn't have a big assed salad every day. It was an ice age.
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                • #23
                  Patski so right about tracking your food, plus it's fun.. and loads of trackers out there to help.

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                  • #24
                    I feel like this sometimes too! I stopped eating salads for a while, and only this week have I started again.

                    For the previous 3 weeks I just ate veges I liked... broccoli, spinach (in omelets), avocados, and sweet potatoes/white potatoes/carrot 2-3 times a week.
                    However, my losses were crap. I only lost maybe a pound in that time.

                    I know it probably takes longer than 3 or so weeks to adjust but it just didn't feel good for me either.

                    I often feel the conflict of wanting to make myself eat more veges. The only fruit I eat is raspberries, blackberries, strawberries, and the occasional banana or passionfruit.

                    Maybe I haven't really fully embraced primal in that sense, I don't think I could have an entire day just eating all the primal foods I want. Not kidding it would be heaven on earth to me, but there's still a mental block for me with just eating eggs, salmon, meat, nuts and butter all day, but ID FRICKIN LOVE IT.
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                    • #25
                      I get a lot of my veggies in by making soup. Add veggies to bone broth with some spices, cook down, then blend with an immersion blender. Sometimes I add coconut milk for a different flavor, or usually sweet potato to thicken it up. For cold soup, try gazpacho. Otherwise, I eat all my veggies roasted. Raw is unappealing to me, and I get sick of salads, too. If all else fails, add bacon. Greens cooked with onions, garlic, and bacon fat are divine.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by nixxy View Post
                        there's still a mental block for me with just eating eggs, salmon, meat, nuts and butter all day, but ID FRICKIN LOVE IT.
                        Here's what I ate for the last few meals that I can remember:

                        Dinner - 3 tomatoes, a little more than half a large avocado, about a cup and a half of curried tuna salad (sadly with smart balance mayo), a little spinach, onions and cilantro, sprinkled with olive oil and vinegar
                        Breakfast - small piece of pork belly, two mugs of coffee with cream
                        Lunch - Can of salmon with mustard, two large handfuls of raw macadamia nuts
                        Snack - two spoonfuls of coconut butter
                        Dinner - Giblets (one liver, one heart, one neck and some flabby skin-like thing--what the hell was that??) fried in butter, half a garnet yam, glass of wine, two pieces dark chocolate
                        Breakfast - One large and one small oxtail bone with the meat on, two cups of coffee one with butter and the other with coconut cream powder

                        I've been eating like this for a week and a half since I got back from my vacation where I lost 5lbs. I weighed myself this morning. I have kept off the weight.
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                        • #27
                          I like salad.

                          But I also love:
                          spinach sauted with bacon
                          brussel sprouts sauted with bacon
                          asparagus with aioli
                          roasted asparagus
                          cauliflower mashed with butter and cream
                          sauted broc with a curry type sauce

                          Yeah, since you can have fat now, vegetables can be made pretty decadant. I had creamed spinach with my steak last night.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by dgreenwood View Post
                            Those times where you fall off the wagon are probably what is making this so hard. They aren't just isolated incidents, they are keeping you from getting used to the new way of eating and they are keeping your cravings alive.

                            I obviously don't know your situation but it sounds like you are trying to do the primal thing but may be holding on to some conventional wisdom dieting techniques (I base this off of the talk of hunger and not being able to look at more salads or veggies). People that successfully maintain a primal way of eating usually eat when they're hungry and don't stress about eating things they don't like. I know I eat whenever I'm hungry and I eat until I'm full. I don't feel like I'm on a diet. You sound like you do.

                            As stated above, the first thing you need to do is have a sustained period of time where you eat only primal foods. Eat when you are hungry but make sure it's primal. Eat plenty of food when you do eat so you won't get hungry before the next meal. If you are having trouble making it to the next meal you aren't eating enough, add more fat and protein to your meals.

                            This is more than just meat and salads. I like salads but I don't remember the last time I ate one. Don't read too much into that, I just haven't had the urge for one in a while, I may eat 4 or 5 next week, but if I do there will probably be plenty of protein and fat on them (meat, fish, avocado, homemade dressing, etc) and it will be because I CRAVED one, not because I was depriving myself in order to lose weight. Eating used to make me feel bad, now it's something I really look forward to because the food is so good and makes me feel great!

                            If you are having trouble "looking at veggies unless they are in a smoothie" you are probably preparing them in a CW diet style (raw, steamed, no butter, etc). Veggies don't have to be something you just tolerate. If you cook them with plenty of protein and fat they don't feel like a sacrifice, they're good!

                            Transitioning to primal takes some sacrifices for sure but if you do it right you shouldn't sound as hungry and deprived as you do.
                            I don't know about OP, but you've pretty much described me to a "T." Great post.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                              Here's what I ate for the last few meals that I can remember:

                              Dinner - 3 tomatoes, a little more than half a large avocado, about a cup and a half of curried tuna salad (sadly with smart balance mayo), a little spinach, onions and cilantro, sprinkled with olive oil and vinegar
                              Breakfast - small piece of pork belly, two mugs of coffee with cream
                              Lunch - Can of salmon with mustard, two large handfuls of raw macadamia nuts
                              Snack - two spoonfuls of coconut butter
                              Dinner - Giblets (one liver, one heart, one neck and some flabby skin-like thing--what the hell was that??) fried in butter, half a garnet yam, glass of wine, two pieces dark chocolate
                              Breakfast - One large and one small oxtail bone with the meat on, two cups of coffee one with butter and the other with coconut cream powder

                              I've been eating like this for a week and a half since I got back from my vacation where I lost 5lbs. I weighed myself this morning. I have kept off the weight.
                              I loveee oxtails! How do you make yours???

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                                ( ...and some flabby skin-like thing--what the hell was that??)
                                Thanks for the laugh, I needed it! Did it taste good?

                                I like salad a LOT, but I also change it up. There are a bunch of different kinds of lettuces, plus other greens (kale, bok choi, other cabbages, spinach, more that I can't remember) along with the other kinds of veg that are good raw--peppers (hot and sweet), carrots, radishes, avocado, tomatoes, cucukmbers, zucchini, other squashes... Then I make homemade salad dressing, which is different every time, and that adds variety.

                                And most of the salad ingredients (minus "normal" lettuce) are great stir-fried with various sauces--along with other veg like broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus, etc.

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