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  • Thank you, MDA - My relative is stopping statins today!

    One of the big things that I've learned since reading TPB and joining the MDA forum is that cholesterol isn't the demon that CW would have us believe and that statins are terrible for us.

    Back in mid-July, I had dinner with a relative, and we started talking about health and whatnot, and started talking about cholesterol. She had been on statins for years (she's 70). I told her that my cholesterol was much higher than hers (by 100 points) and that I'm not dead yet. I told her that cholesterol is the body's firetruck that gets firefighters where they need to be to put out inflammation, which is the real danger. Reducing cholesterol does nothing to reduce inflammation. We talked. A lot. She promised me that she'd make an appointment with her cardiologist to talk about stopping statins.

    A few days later, she told me she had an appointment with her doc at the end of September. Okay, progress.

    Fast forward to today. I just got off the phone with her. After staying with me for a weekend, she got interested in cutting wheat and eating cleaner, and she made an appointment with a local trainer -- who is a huge believer in paleo. She just had a long talk with him...and she told me that she has stopped statins effective immediately. She's got a moved-up appointment with her cardiologist, but she's done with statins.

    I couldn't be happier. I'm convinced that even if she does nothing else, she has just improved her quality of life for the rest of her life. But she's not stopping there -- she's going to start working out with this terrific trainer, and she is switching over to a more primal/paleo way of eating.

    I'm so relieved that I could cry.

    I want to thank everyone here, especially Mark, for posting such helpful, eye-opening information about cholesterol. I can honestly say that without you folks, this day would not have come.
    F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

    **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

    **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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    Cool story. I like making good information available and then letting family/friend/strangers come to their own conclusions. Glad to hear she's becoming proactive!

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    • #3
      Great! You convinced your relative to stop taking medicine prescribed to her by a doctor before even discussing it with her doctor. GREAT JOB!!!!!

      Just so you know that is sarcasm. Tell your relative to talk to her doctor.

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      • #4
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        • #5
          Originally posted by jimhensen View Post
          Great! You convinced your relative to stop taking medicine prescribed to her by a doctor before even discussing it with her doctor. GREAT JOB!!!!!

          Just so you know that is sarcasm. Tell your relative to talk to her doctor.
          I'd have to be blind to miss the sarcasm. Thank you for your concern. My relative has spoken with her doctor, so the doc is aware of her decision to stop treatment. She also has a moved-up appointment with the doc. Shockingly, I didn't brainwash my relative into doing something she otherwise wouldn't do. She came to her own conclusion after speaking with me, her trainer, and doing research.

          While I believe that there are many times we should unflinchingly follow a doctor's orders, statins for cholesterol is absolutely not one of those times.
          F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

          **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

          **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
            Cool story. I like making good information available and then letting family/friend/strangers come to their own conclusions. Glad to hear she's becoming proactive!
            Thanks, Neckhammer -- so am I.
            F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

            **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

            **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jimhensen View Post
              Great! You convinced your relative to stop taking medicine prescribed to her by a doctor before even discussing it with her doctor. GREAT JOB!!!!!

              Just so you know that is sarcasm. Tell your relative to talk to her doctor.
              But I don't think her doctor will say "Off course you should stop takin medicine! I've been giving you them with the intention to hurt you!"
              well then

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              • #8
                I enjoy reading jimhensen's posts. So I know what to do the opposite of.

                If my physician recommended statins, I'd find a new physician.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Finnegans Wake View Post
                  I enjoy reading jimhensen's posts. So I know what to do the opposite of.

                  If my physician recommended statins, I'd find a new physician.
                  Ditto.
                  F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                  **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                  **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gadsie View Post
                    But I don't think her doctor will say "Off course you should stop takin medicine! I've been giving you them with the intention to hurt you!"
                    Exactly. I'm sure it's not malice aforethought when doctors prescribe statins. That being said, it takes a long time for CW to shift -- and doctors aren't immune.
                    F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                    **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                    **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JackieKessler View Post
                      Exactly. I'm sure it's not malice aforethought when doctors prescribe statins. That being said, it takes a long time for CW to shift -- and doctors aren't immune.
                      No its not malice....its two other things. 1. Laziness....Many practice ABC medicine. They prescribe based on a flow chart basically. 2. It really is tough to go against the tide...even when its turning. In their profession its the status quo, and in a country that is sue happy the nail that stands out may be hammered down. Right now they actually protect their ass by just following the herd (i.e. Do what most your peers would do, no matter if it is correct or not).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                        ...and in a country that is sue happy...
                        That's it right there. If doctors don't follow the current standard of care, they can be held liable for malpractice. It's stupid, but it's true.

                        Also, @jackie: Congrats on sharing some knowledge about health and wellness. Your realtive's health will almost certainly improve by eliminating the statins.

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                        • #13
                          Standard of Practice also determines how insurance and medicare pays the bill. The only way a doctor can provide the care HE feels is correct is if he is in private practice and only accepts payment from the patient. Otherwise there are to many outside influences.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by neckhammer View Post
                            no its not malice....its two other things. 1. Laziness....many practice abc medicine. They prescribe based on a flow chart basically. 2. It really is tough to go against the tide...even when its turning. In their profession its the status quo, and in a country that is sue happy the nail that stands out may be hammered down. Right now they actually protect their ass by just following the herd (i.e. Do what most your peers would do, no matter if it is correct or not).
                            qft.
                            F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                            **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                            **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by yodiewan View Post
                              That's it right there. If doctors don't follow the current standard of care, they can be held liable for malpractice. It's stupid, but it's true.

                              Also, @jackie: Congrats on sharing some knowledge about health and wellness. Your realtive's health will almost certainly improve by eliminating the statins.
                              Agreed about the malpractice fear. And thanks!
                              F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                              **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                              **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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