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  • #16
    Originally posted by threelions View Post
    Until he does a program on Paleo/Primal you're always going to have a certain amount of low fat bias as its so programmed into people's minds.
    Wonder if its worth emailing BBC\Horizon to do a Primal slant?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by madog View Post
      Wonder if its worth emailing BBC\Horizon to do a Primal slant?
      Been thinking the same thing. Here's his twitter might be worth contacting him there.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/DrMichaelMosley

      I'm on the IPad but I assume the link works the same.

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      • #18
        Brad Pilon's review of it:
        The 5/2 diet Intermittent fasting my review | Brad Pilon's 'Eat Blog Eat'
        Haven't read it yet. Just saw in my inbox.

        Re the comment above on low protein and low fat - Low protein is beneficial. Chris Masterjohn did a low protein vegan diet I think for 2 weeks and it got rid of warts on his hands. When you low protein all dead proteins etc scavenged/recycled from body.
        Just low fat on the fast days.

        You Tube of Horizon fasting program:
        http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...6&feature=plcp

        Add: Brad Pilon thought it was good but he would have added resistance training to the protocol.
        Last edited by Sue; 08-07-2012, 05:48 PM.

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        • #19
          Very interesting I thought. The low protien wasn't really looked into enough for my liking, but it did imply that the fasting dealt with the lowering of the protien as the desired effect of lowering that insulin like hormone thingy was achieved through his 2 out of 7 fasting programme, and he was basically eating what ever the hell he liked on the other days.

          I will at some point contact him to ask him to do a programme on primal style eating as I think it would interest him. I would be interested to see if there are futher benifits from eating clean and fasting, I'm sure there are.
          You know all those pictures of Adam and Eve where they have belly button? Think about it..................... take as long as you need........................

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          • #20
            Originally posted by threelions View Post
            It's BBC so publicly funded no adverts or sponsors allowed. Going to the fast food place was just a way to show it didn't matter about high or low fat the results were the same.

            Until he does a program on Paleo/Primal you're always going to have a certain amount of low fat bias as its so programmed into people's minds.

            Don't forget that the BBC have a huge global arm that raises billions mainly from commercials and advertisers.

            I think with Paleo and Fasting you have the best of both worlds personally and high protein has never really agreed with me anyway, just a balanced and clean diet.
            2010 - 5,11 and 101KG

            2012 - 5,11 and 77KG

            Train hard, eat well and love life

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            • #21
              I missed most of it but there's always iPlayer when I get back off holiday.
              Why use a sledge hammer to crack a nut when a steam roller is even more effective, and, is fun to drive.

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              • #22
                I may send an email as well, I'd really love to see an episode, mostly because I know my mum will take on board what they are saying.

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                • #23
                  This show inspired me to try 5/2 fasting. So, yesterday, all I ate was a few ounces of strawberries with some almond milk (blended), some mushroom soup (clear, not cream), and coffee with creamer. <300 cals and got one of my days this week out of the way. Since I'm not hungry this morning, I may start this regime with the two fast days together.

                  No hunger pangs, most likely since I often eat only one/two extended meals in the evening. At one point I thought, "Oh crap, I forgot to defrost something for dinner. Oh yeah, I'm fasting."

                  It sure makes washing the dishes easier. heh.
                  "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                  B*tch-lite

                  Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                  • #24
                    So what they went to a fast food joint on feed day. That's the point - you can eat whatever you want. Would I spend every feed day at a fast food joint - no. But if I felt like some junk food, cheat meal whatever I can have it.

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                    • #25
                      I also think you have to accept that that is a small study and eating junk may not work for everyone. I have a friend that has lost a lot of weight on a low carb diet of some kind, not sure which route she followed but there was a lot of pretend food involved (she felt the need to break her relationship with food) she now follows a day of eating bugger all but salad and a day of eating what she wants, and has put on 10lbs over 5 months, not a massive gain, but still a gain.
                      You know all those pictures of Adam and Eve where they have belly button? Think about it..................... take as long as you need........................

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tribal Rob View Post
                        I also think you have to accept that that is a small study and eating junk may not work for everyone. I have a friend that has lost a lot of weight on a low carb diet of some kind, not sure which route she followed but there was a lot of pretend food involved (she felt the need to break her relationship with food) she now follows a day of eating bugger all but salad and a day of eating what she wants, and has put on 10lbs over 5 months, not a massive gain, but still a gain.
                        From Brad Pillon link re the feed day:
                        " In this section Dr. Varaday* mentions that you can eat whatever you want as long as you stay withing your Calorie goals, notice Dr. Varaday says eat WHATEVER you want, not HOW MUCH you want, big distinction, and she’s absolutely correct"
                        The 5/2 diet Intermittent fasting my review | Brad Pilon&#039;s &#039;Eat Blog Eat&#039;

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                        • #27
                          It's funny, but I wasn't even interested in the whole weight gain/loss aspect. I was way more impressed with the blood markers and BMI results.

                          This documentary, coupled with another that's also available at youtube in its entirety (The Men Who Made Us Fat) kept me busy for a few hours, and is a great brain reset if/when you're wondering if all of this is worth it. For me, if eating clean screws the Agribusiness/government complex out of even one dollar, I'm a happy camper.

                          If I live to 100 doing it, all the better.
                          "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                          B*tch-lite

                          Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sue View Post
                            From Brad Pillon link re the feed day:
                            " In this section Dr. Varaday* mentions that you can eat whatever you want as long as you stay withing your Calorie goals, notice Dr. Varaday says eat WHATEVER you want, not HOW MUCH you want, big distinction, and she’s absolutely correct"
                            The 5/2 diet Intermittent fasting my review | Brad Pilon's 'Eat Blog Eat'
                            Aye, that is not the way it was sold in the programme though
                            You know all those pictures of Adam and Eve where they have belly button? Think about it..................... take as long as you need........................

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                              It's funny, but I wasn't even interested in the whole weight gain/loss aspect. I was way more impressed with the blood markers and BMI results.

                              This documentary, coupled with another that's also available at youtube in its entirety (The Men Who Made Us Fat) kept me busy for a few hours, and is a great brain reset if/when you're wondering if all of this is worth it. For me, if eating clean screws the Agribusiness/government complex out of even one dollar, I'm a happy camper.

                              If I live to 100 doing it, all the better.
                              Glad you can watch The Men Who Made Us Fat in the US. It makes you realize it is all about money. Well I knew that anyway but it reinforces it.
                              My boss was on that program criticizing the Food Policy in the UK Government -yeah. Although he is not Paleo, he believes in a Mediterranean Diet, he is against sugar and junk food etc so he is one of the good guys. Think he thinks I am a bit mad when I tell him that I have benefited so much from Paleo. Who knows he may start to see the light eventually.

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                              • #30
                                Michael Mosely is one serious dude. I'm a big fan of his, for sure. He has excellent communication skills IMO, i.e. he is a natural at popularising science and narrating documentaries in this vein.
                                F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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