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  • #16
    Originally posted by GuineaPigQueen View Post
    I have a lot of raw vegan "gurus" on my youtube. There are some great veggie heavy recipes. I love veggies.

    Durian insults everyone, even other raw vegans. There are more intelligent arguments *against* him than his arguments against others. He's specifically a fruitarian. I wouldn't doubt that non-fruitarian raw vegans could lead a decently long life if they paid attention to their dietary needs. Just as one could lead a fairly old life on SAD. I just never felt it was *optimal* eating. Living longer does not seem worth it if I am to suffer chronic pain and health complications for a hefty chunk of my life.

    I'm not a nutritional expert, but 80/10/10 seems extremist and I'm curious to see failing health of individuals on it past 30, who have been on the diet for a substantial length of time. Durian's girlfriend/friend(rawfitbitch) suffered from an eating disorder in the past and I wonder if this contributed to her and other folks turning to this diet.

    Also keep in mind that Durian is not a doctor or anything. He's an opinionated man with a webcam. A lot of people fall for gurus completely because of adoration and bandwagon mentality. Mark Sisson isn't a doctor either, but that's why you have to look at their sources of information.

    Primal just makes sense to me. Frutarianism does not.
    And Dr.s are usually a horrible source of lifelstyle advice and are actually horribly or non educated in it (MD's I mean). Sorry, but you make it sound as if they get a free pass. Next time your MD prescribes a med ask for some references and prepare to be amazed with the lack there of.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Betorq View Post
      What I found was that it did give me loads of energy, was a great detox & initially,for the 1st several years, it seemed like it was the best thing ever. Looking back on those times, it was what I describe as all treble, but with little midrange & almost no bass.
      I couldn't have said it better, what a great way to describe it! Isn't it weird, that almost high feeling you get eating all raw?

      Your trip to India sounds like it was amazing. I was in New Delhi for a short while and ended up having a downright awful time there. Though I think it's harder for girls to travel by themselves in India. I must admit though, seeing the Taj Mahal was a high point, stunning!

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      • #18
        Offhand, the only veggies I can think of that I like raw are mushrooms, avocados, and tomatoes. And two of those are technically fruits. Don't think the whole raw thing would work for me. Raw fish otoh is yummy.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
          And Dr.s are usually a horrible source of lifelstyle advice and are actually horribly or non educated in it (MD's I mean). Sorry, but you make it sound as if they get a free pass. Next time your MD prescribes a med ask for some references and prepare to be amazed with the lack there of.
          Usually a doctor would have more credibility than a random guy off the internet, but I can agree that there are not so great doctors in existence.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by GuineaPigQueen View Post
            Usually a doctor would have more credibility than a random guy off the internet, but I can agree that there are not so great doctors in existence.
            lol...like I said make sure to check that "usual doctor". Just had one in my own town go to jail for life on charges.....good ole narcotics.

            Actually I could point you to 3 guys on the internet without MD's that I recommend over 90% of MD's you will find in your home town for good health information. Care to take the challenge?

            You ask your fella what to do about your diabetes II, hypertension, or high cholestorol. Take that advice and pocket it.

            Now I'll take MY TOP THREE and follow their advice.

            Who lives longer? Funny thing is that there is actual evidence to say I WILL! Game set match! Peace out.

            Want the proof? Ask that MD of yours to show you the proof that their drugs will improve or increase your life.
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            • #21
              All the raw vegans I see down at the co-op are eating as if they are totally starved. I swear they have a way of eating that's intense. Most people feel great on a raw vegan diet at first because their body is enjoying the rich saturated fat of their own adipose tissue. It is nearly impossible to eat enough on a raw vegan diet. Take a look at this:
              The Calorie Paradox of Raw Veganism
              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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              • #22
                I tinkered with raw veganism. Felt great, but just wasn't my thing. I ate lots of avocados and nuts enjoyed eating that way, but I just enjoy eating in general. I got a little (a lot) turned off by all the grey raw vegans with sunken in eyes I was meeting. I do think there are a very few who can and do thrive on that diet, and I think that diet may be a good healing diet for some conditions, but outside of that I don't think it serves most people.

                However, to the OP, why not do your own science experiment? It's fun to be a science experiment, lol.
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                • #23
                  30Douchebag is a misinformed, lying, slanderous asshole. Seriously, he has nothing to offer. He is insignificant.


                  I may be one of those who you think should "lighten up on fruitboy"...after listening to him lie and slander people I have concluded the dude is just an (delusional) asshole. He gives no respect therefore he deserves no respect. I have had my comments banned on his YouTube videos, the dude is a control freak who pimps his girlfriend on the net.
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                  • #24
                    I think the people who get strung out over Durianrider need to lighten up. I don't really care for his style much, and I think insulting everyone is as lame as it gets, but he's not going to stop any time soon. Plenty of people, such as Daniel Vitalis, have tried to get him to play fair, but this just seems to elicit an even louder response from him.

                    He does, however, make an excellent reference for anyone who thinks carbohydrate --> insulin --> fat storage. He eats 5,000+ calories per day from sugary fruits, and, contrary to popular belief, does not spend his entire existence burning it off. I have little interest in following 80/10/10 (I like eggs, coconuts, butter, and meat), but he is a great example of how carbohydrates do not make people fat.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by tarek View Post
                      I think the people who get strung out over Durianrider need to lighten up. I don't really care for his style much, and I think insulting everyone is as lame as it gets, but he's not going to stop any time soon. Plenty of people, such as Daniel Vitalis, have tried to get him to play fair, but this just seems to elicit an even louder response from him.

                      He does, however, make an excellent reference for anyone who thinks carbohydrate --> insulin --> fat storage. He eats 5,000+ calories per day from sugary fruits, and, contrary to popular belief, does not spend his entire existence burning it off. I have little interest in following 80/10/10 (I like eggs, coconuts, butter, and meat), but he is a great example of how carbohydrates do not make people fat.
                      I find that one of the way to read through various positions and arguments is to read through the opposition to them. Here's the people who are not a fan of 30 bananas a day.

                      Given his track record of lying, I don't think that he is a great example of anything.
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                      • #26
                        He says he eats 2500 calories for breakfast. Maybe he eats a shitload of of calories to stay full and that for some reason he jever gets fat because maybe when you only eat fruit you'll always look malnourished and skinny.
                        I also want to try it for a week or 2, to see if my digestion problems disappear. ButI'm not going to do it because I would literally have to eat all the time and my house has to be completely stocked with fruit.
                        well then

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                        • #27
                          He eats 100% primal (bananas and greens), we should embrace him as our own.
                          He's a pretty entertaining character. I'm kind of surprised he's still going so strong, he's been at it relentlessly for years with almost daily video's. lol

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Forgotmylastusername View Post
                            He's a pretty entertaining character. I'm kind of surprised he's still going so strong, he's been at it relentlessly for years with almost daily video's. lol
                            He is very enthusiastic! Gets kudos for devotion on a couple of paleo blogs, so I agree with your take on it

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by tarek View Post
                              He does, however, make an excellent reference for anyone who thinks carbohydrate --> insulin --> fat storage. He eats 5,000+ calories per day from sugary fruits, and, contrary to popular belief, does not spend his entire existence burning it off. I have little interest in following 80/10/10 (I like eggs, coconuts, butter, and meat), but he is a great example of how carbohydrates do not make people fat.
                              Not necessarily. If he eats so little fat, which the body needs, any fat that is being created by his high carb/fructose diet is being reconsumed. So he's basically cannibalizing himself.
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                              • #30
                                Btw, what is the guy trying to accomplish? He hardly talks about the benefits of raw vegan. He only attacks the primal diet. If he actually wants to accomplish something for example convert primal people to raw vegan then he's not doing it the right way. You just can't take him serious this way unless you're already a vegan yourself
                                well then

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