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    One of my family members recently read Wheat Belly and is about to start reading The Primal Blueprint. He's had type 2 diabetes for many, many years, and what he read in Wheat Belly scared him spitless. So he immediately cut out wheat -- roughly 90% of the time, he says. He did this for a short amount of time (I think three weeks), and he checked his blood sugar during that time. He says that there was no rhyme or reason for his sugar spiking -- there were times when it was low, and times when it was extremely high, even without wheat (mostly). He's very frustrated.

    I asked him if he'd been keeping a food journal, and he said yes, so he'll be emailing that to me. Once I get that, I'll know what he's been eating (assuming, of course, he's been faithfully logging everything). I'll be checking to see if he's getting hidden wheat in his food, as well as what "10%" actually translates to in terms of his diet.

    So my question to the group, for him, is this: Does eating 10% wheat really throw off blood sugar? Is 90% truly not good enough?

    Many thanks in advance!
    Last edited by dragonjax; 08-04-2012, 12:32 PM. Reason: I can't spell worth sit.
    F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

    **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

    **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

  • #2
    There could be a lot more to it. Is he on metformin or any other glucose controlling medication? If he is drastically changing his diet, then his meds need to be adjusted as well and he needs to work with his doc on a lot of this.

    My own personal experience is that any wheat at all throws me off. Certainly, a 90% decrease is better than nothing, but even a little bit could be throwing him off. Also, don't just look for the wheat, but look for any processed foods because those very often have boat loads of hidden sugars. I was looking at "healthy" granola bars at Sam's Club this morning and 4 of the ingredients were a type of sugar. I think I'll get the ingredients to make the energy bars from the recipe here instead.

    Your family member is certainly on the right track and this isn't a quick fix by any means. I think your main goal may just to keep encouraging him to keep up with it and not give up when he doesn't see results immediately. Good luck!

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    • #3
      Thanks, RobinNM - this is very helpful! I'm not sure about medication -- I'll ask him when I get his food journal.

      I'm definitely giving him a huge thumbs up. We're going to talk again in a few days.
      F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

      **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

      **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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      • #4
        HFCS and sugars are hidden everywhere these days, you need to read labels. I have reversed my Type 2 Diabetes on primal and I'm confident that 99% of people that can stick to primal can do the same.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by WeldingHank View Post
          HFCS and sugars are hidden everywhere these days, you need to read labels. I have reversed my Type 2 Diabetes on primal and I'm confident that 99% of people that can stick to primal can do the same.
          WeldingHank, would you say that cutting wheat isn't enough? That for my relative to really get his diabetes under control, he should give primal an honest effort? Is it the sugar as well as the grain that's having an impact on his blood sugar? (Okay, rereading what I just wrote, I want to say "Duh," but I really know nothing about diabetes, so any and all help is appreciated. Thanks!)
          F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

          **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

          **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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          • #6
            ^ what he said!
            SW on 10/1/11: 380lbs.
            CW 12/13/12: 315lbs. (Was under 300#, added some muscle :-) )
            GW: 10% B.F. 250lbs. - 275lbs. (6' 4" tall)

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            • #7
              there could be many factors involved and any medications - due to their side effects could have a part in this. So can an over or under acting thyroid, lacking of any of the proper nutritional nutrients the body needs even a minute amount,gluten intolerance, any extra stress, excess of toxins or debree in the body and or colon area that is not getting normally flushed out

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JackieKessler View Post
                WeldingHank, would you say that cutting wheat isn't enough? That for my relative to really get his diabetes under control, he should give primal an honest effort? Is it the sugar as well as the grain that's having an impact on his blood sugar? (Okay, rereading what I just wrote, I want to say "Duh," but I really know nothing about diabetes, so any and all help is appreciated. Thanks!)
                Just cutting wheat was absolutely not enough for me. I found even some fruits would make my blood sugar really high (though it would come down much faster than wheat) Though it may be different for your relative.

                To come off of being diabetic its not just wheat, its ANY carbohydrate that must be converted to sugar.

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                • #9
                  I think this site is a good place to learn about diabetes:
                  Blood Sugar 101

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                  • #10
                    Thank you all very, very much!
                    F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                    **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                    **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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                    • #11
                      Wheat is not a main factor in diabetes. It affects blood sugar because it is a carb. All carbs and excessive protein will raise blood sugar levels.

                      Eating too much meat will keep your levels from normalizing.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lily Marie View Post
                        Wheat is not a main factor in diabetes. It affects blood sugar because it is a carb. All carbs and excessive protein will raise blood sugar levels.

                        Eating too much meat will keep your levels from normalizing.
                        It takes way more protein than carbohydrate to get a rise in blood sugar.

                        Your body first uses protein to rebuild muscle tissue on a daily basis, THEN it can turn it into glucose. And if you need .5 grams protein per pound of lean bodymass just to MAINTAIN, you can see how much you would actually need to do something.

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                        • #13
                          I just got off the phone with my relative, and he says that "of course" he's on medication, and when I suggested (as mentioned by folks here) that he should speak with his doc to get his meds adjusted due to a dietary change, he said, "That's what I was thinking about after I spoke with you before." So he's setting up an appointment. He's also very, very stoked that for at least one person here (hi, WeldingHank), going primal reversed the diabetes. And when I mentioned that it's all carbs that get turned to sugar, not just wheat, he got very excited. He'd read exactly this many, many years ago, and the idea is really resonating. Then he got a little nervous -- he said that if all carbs were out, then "all I can eat is meat and fat!" And I said, "You're forgetting about plants! Vegetables are your friends. Other than starchy veggies like potatoes, you've got tons and tons of options. If you eat primally or paleo, then the bulk of what you're eating will be plants, plus animals and fats. Fruits can be limited." And guys...he told me that he's about to sit down and start reading TPB right now.

                          I'm really excited for him. He's serious about wanting to get the diabetes under control, and even gone for good. Thank you all so much for your input -- he thanks you too!
                          F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                          **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                          **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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                          • #14
                            Hi Jackie,
                            My Dad is a T2D who just recently went Primal and is doing great. He has been taken off a statin, 2 BP meds and a heart med and is maintaining a daily BP of 115/65 at the age of 86! It's never too late to make a change for the better.

                            I agree with what was said before. Grain is a good place to start but the complete sugar picture needs to be seen too. Even things that are supposed to be good for you like OJ can be a problem for a diabetic.

                            Does your relative ever get puffiness and/or pain/tingling/numbness in the feet and hands? This edema and peripheral neuropathy got so bad that it gave Dad the wake up call he needed to agree to try my, "Weird internet diet." Within 24 hours, all pain was gone. Within 3 days he could see ankle bones that had been MIA for ages. Within a month he had the BP results above.

                            He grudgingly admits now that I was right and there is something to this "weird internet diet".

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                            • #15
                              Paleobird, I wrote a long reply and clicked to post, but I must have zigged instead of zagged, because my reply didn't show up. Argh.

                              That's awesome about your father! I'll definitely pass this onto my relative; he'll be thrilled to hear about another real-life example. Thanks so much for posting!

                              I'm not sure about the puffiness; I'll ask him the next time he calls. Thanks again!
                              F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                              **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                              **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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