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  • #31
    Originally posted by June68 View Post
    bahahahaha!

    OOOH. I'm so impressed. {faints}
    So, this bozo is 44. Hard to believe

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    • #32
      Originally posted by smilingjustalittlebit View Post
      And what else were these people eating besides meat?
      +1
      And was it grass fed beef, organic free range chicken, free range eggs, etc.......
      I doublt it.
      F/37yr/5' 5"
      SW: 154 March 2011
      CW: 140 July to Oct 2011
      PB: 145 gained 5lbs in first 4 months March to July 2012
      With a combo of PB and IF-ing 5 days a week (1 x 1200 calorie meal per day) I have lost 15 lbs PB/IF = 130 lbs July 2012 to current
      GW: 120
      Ultimate Goals ar to be: Happy/ Fit/ Energetic/ Feel great/ Balanced/ cure my thyroid and adrenals

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      • #33
        Originally posted by KathyH View Post
        Denise Minger is NOT a scientist, NOT a statistician (but she likes numbers, she says) and not a nutritionist. She is an English major who likes to write. Strange that people here always point others to her site when asked for a scientific proof.
        I don't care if Dewnise Minger is a homeless woman on the streets. That doesn't affect the quality of her arguements.

        Point out something (anything!) wrong in her evisceration of the china study that effectively rebuts her points.

        Hint: You won'tbe able to because her analysis is higher quality than Campbells original. Even the 'weak' and 'flawed' analysis is done deliberately because it copies Campbells own methodologies and exposes how useless his methods are to use to reach the (predetermined) conclusions he reached.
        Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

        Griff's cholesterol primer
        5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
        Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
        TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
        bloodorchid is always right

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        • #34
          Originally posted by KathyH View Post
          Denise Minger is NOT a scientist, NOT a statistician (but she likes numbers, she says) and not a nutritionist. She is an English major who likes to write. Strange that people here always point others to her site when asked for a scientific proof.
          Yet she happens to be right. Or do you need a piece of paper from a university before you can comment on health matters, because that would make all of our opinions on health void, including Mark Sisson.
          http://lifemutt.blogspot.sg/ - Gaming, Food Reviews and Life in Singapore

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          • #35
            Thanks majicmerl for turning me on to Denise Minger.
            I thought the documentary Forks over Knives was providing me with absolute prove that meat was bad for us.
            I'm so clad I asked the question I did on this forum so I can learn about Denise Minger and realized that the documentary was bending the truth to provide a vegan's point of view.
            I never wanted to: "You're perfectly free to abstain from meat and dairy. It's your life after all."
            I justed wanted to make to make sure that eating the right type of animal products is a healthy decision.
            I'll stay with my diet of eating everything that is healthy including organic animal products.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
              I don't care if Dewnise Minger is a homeless woman on the streets. That doesn't affect the quality of her arguements.

              Point out something (anything!) wrong in her evisceration of the china study that effectively rebuts her points.

              Hint: You won'tbe able to because her analysis is higher quality than Campbells original. Even the 'weak' and 'flawed' analysis is done deliberately because it copies Campbells own methodologies and exposes how useless his methods are to use to reach the (predetermined) conclusions he reached.
              Just because what she wrote exceeds your understanding of statistics and nutrition and supports your own eating habits does not prove that she has refuted anything.
              BTW, her sarcasm is pathetic but I can see how it appeals to some country bumpkins here.
              Last edited by KathyH; 08-05-2012, 08:25 PM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by anna5 View Post
                I am sorry but I don't function on this level. Find someone else for similar "conversations."
                dr anna
                I am sorry that I made you cry

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by AMonkey View Post
                  Yet she happens to be right.
                  So you say

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                  • #39
                    Oh goody. A new vegetarian troll visits the forum and pushes Forks over Knives. Like this hasn't happened a million times already.
                    Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by joegambler0 View Post
                      Thanks majicmerl for turning me on to Denise Minger.
                      I thought the documentary Forks over Knives was providing me with absolute prove that meat was bad for us.
                      I'm so clad I asked the question I did on this forum so I can learn about Denise Minger and realized that the documentary was bending the truth to provide a vegan's point of view.
                      I never wanted to: "You're perfectly free to abstain from meat and dairy. It's your life after all."
                      I justed wanted to make to make sure that eating the right type of animal products is a healthy decision.
                      I'll stay with my diet of eating everything that is healthy including organic animal products.

                      Response to Denise Minger 1: Scrupulous - YouTube
                      Just to confuse you even more.
                      Last edited by KathyH; 08-05-2012, 08:50 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by KathyH View Post
                        Just because what she wrote exceeds your understanding of statistics and nutrition and supports your own eating habits does not prove that she has refuted anything.
                        BTW, her sarcasm is pathetic but I can see how it appeals to some country bumpkins here.
                        Yes, it's because we're all country bumpkins that can't understand statistics and nutrition that we have a high opinion of her. Because she supports our own eating habits.

                        And there's not even a *hint* of entrenched opposition from you because she undermines a position you want to be true.

                        Originally posted by KathyH View Post
                        As I said before IN THE VERY POST YOU QUOTED, I couldn't care less who is making the arguments. I care about which arguments are the truth. The post you link to shows that Minger made a post about something after someone else made the same point. Who cares, as long as the truth is being promulgated?
                        Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                        Griff's cholesterol primer
                        5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                        Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                        TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                        bloodorchid is always right

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                          oh goody. A new vegetarian troll visits the forum and pushes forks over knives. Like this hasn't happened a million times already.
                          lol!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by KathyH View Post
                            LOL you're gonna bring Ancel Keys into it?? It's probably BECAUSE of him that the whole low fat craze started, and why so many people are less healthy than they were back in the day when all people ate were saturated fats... (and weren't dropping dead of heart attacks etc. in fact... heart attacks didn't EXIST prior to the 1920s - at least not in any large number at all).

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