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  • This thread has turned quite awesome.
    Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

    Griff's cholesterol primer
    5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
    Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
    TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
    bloodorchid is always right

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    • Originally posted by Piscator View Post
      And you could stand to improve your ability to get along with others without the constant sarcasm directed at anyone who disagrees with you. Seems that his reading comprehension is pretty good, although it's likely that he simply missed that small detail in the volumes of your personal history you've provided in this thread. I know I missed it, as I've taken to skimming much of what you write.

      Don't take this to mean that I'm trying to diminish your experience. I am happy for you that you've overcome the cancer and I'm sure I'll never understand the level to which that has transformed your appreciation for your life and how you went about the healing process. However, your condescension towards others is overbearing.
      + 1

      James, loving your input here. Thanks.

      I skim what PB says too, the tone puts me off.

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      • Originally posted by lambchop View Post
        + 1
        James, loving your input here. Thanks.
        I skim what PB says too, the tone puts me off.
        If you actually read both you would see that we are agreeing 9 times out of 10. He's just a bit more into the conspiracy of the evil doctors meme than I am. That's a tangent as far as I am concerned. When it come to the actual topic of iodine, we agree completely.

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        • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post

          <long rant with outdated "evidence" of how nasty chemo is.> Duh.
          <more ranting about the faults of the FDA> Nobody said the system is good.
          <lots of unsupported assertions about the ineffectiveness of allopathic medicine>

          You need to improve your reading comprehension.

          Dismiss as science fiction anything that does not agree with your opinion. That works.

          What puzzling is not the content but the sheer volume. I have other things to do today. Do you?
          This is, frankly, rude.

          I am upset that you are speaking like this to a new member. A new member who has devoted a lot of time to address issues of concern to those participating in and reading (as I do) these Iodine threads.

          And for you to make that final comment. Of all people. It reads like you are having a tantrum because you think the Iodine threads are yours and you can be the only voice of reason. You sprinkle your opinion with confidence all over this forum.

          I am annoyed that a new member who is clearly educated about these issues has been treated like this.

          JamesS, clearly it was frustrating being a non member and reading those threads when you had a contrary view. I appreciate the effort you took to respond. I am sorry this was your welcome. I hope you stick around about you obviously have a lot to offer this forum.

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          • Originally posted by lambchop View Post
            This is, frankly, rude.

            I am upset that you are speaking like this to a new member. A new member who has devoted a lot of time to address issues of concern to those participating in and reading (as I do) these Iodine threads.

            And for you to make that final comment. Of all people. It reads like you are having a tantrum because you think the Iodine threads are yours and you can be the only voice of reason. You sprinkle your opinion with confidence all over this forum.

            I am annoyed that a new member who is clearly educated about these issues has been treated like this.

            JamesS, clearly it was frustrating being a non member and reading those threads when you had a contrary view. I appreciate the effort you took to respond. I am sorry this was your welcome. I hope you stick around about you obviously have a lot to offer this forum.
            Did you miss the part where I said that he and I agree about iodine?

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            • How about everybody *not* named James and PaleoBird can take a chill pill and let them get over their apparent internet tiff? That would the give thread a chance to not devolve into feather ruffling at least.

              I'm interested in learning more about most of the things JamesS has posted about. He hasn't set off my BS-ometer yet (in the way that Grizz did quite quickly).
              Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

              Griff's cholesterol primer
              5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
              Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
              TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
              bloodorchid is always right

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              • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                Did you miss the part where I said that he and I agree about iodine?
                Relevance?

                My objection is your rude condascending response to a new member, who is spending time sharing what appears to be significant knowledge, in that horrible way. Unnecessary.

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                • Nothing to get over, at least on my side. I don't mind agreeing to disagree about things that are tangential to this discussion in the first place.

                  How many times do I have to say it? James and I agree when it comes to iodine.

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                  • Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                    How about everybody *not* named James and PaleoBird can take a chill pill and let them get over their apparent internet tiff? That would the give thread a chance to not devolve into feather ruffling at least.

                    I'm interested in learning more about most of the things JamesS has posted about. He hasn't set off my BS-ometer yet (in the way that Grizz did quite quickly).
                    Well, a few people chiming in and saying "thanks James" might mitigate the rude response he received and a few people saying "that's not cool" to Paleobird might demonstrate to others reading the forum that that behaviour is not the norm.

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                    • Originally posted by lambchop View Post
                      My objection is your rude condascending response to a new member, who is spending time sharing what appears to be significant knowledge, in that horrible way. Unnecessary.
                      Oh, boo,hoo!
                      And, if you are going to accuse someone of being condescending, at least spell it right.

                      Yeah, I'm just insufferable. I know.

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                      • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                        Things James and I agree on :

                        Iodine does not cure cancer.
                        Iodine should not be taken in huge dosages.
                        Reactions said to be "detox" are actually iodine overdose symptoms.
                        Dr. Brownsien is a quack selling products.
                        The baking soda guy is a quack too.
                        Cancer is not a fungus.
                        Dr. Mercola is not always the most reliable source of info.

                        Places where we differ:

                        The evil greed factor in medicine being so huge. BTW, I never said that big Pharma wasn't evil, just not to blame and bash the doctors.
                        The efficacy of chemo.
                        The health effects of soy.

                        On balance, I like this guy a lot.

                        And get the SeaSnax. They're better than popcorn and they have iodine.
                        I don't generally quote myself but, Lambchops, evidently you missed this upthread.

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                        • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                          Oh, boo,hoo!
                          And, if you are going to accuse someone of being condescending, at least spell it right.

                          Yeah, I'm just insufferable. I know.
                          You are now just being a bitch.

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                          • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                            I don't generally quote myself but, Lambchops, evidently you missed this upthread.
                            Are you dumb?

                            The bit he quoted on the previous page is to your rudeness and attitude. You were just a bitch to JamesS, nothing to do with your conclusions.

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                            • Originally posted by Quarry View Post
                              You are now just being a bitch.
                              Yep. She is.

                              Clearly the message is: unless you agree with Paleobird, she will abuse you.

                              That is what the ignore button is for

                              and how does she miss the point about abusing new members? It is OK to do that so long as they agree with her opinion about Iodine. Back off anyone who doesn't agree with her sermons on this forum!

                              And brace yourself for abuse if you are busy and not proofreading your entries because she will call you out on that too. Now who has nothing better to do?
                              Last edited by lambchop; 08-09-2012, 05:53 PM. Reason: add

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                              • Any time you two are done with the personal attacks on me, I would be happy to get back to discussing iodine.

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