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  • Hey, quick question... my SIL has recently found her way down to a size 16 jeans... would it be wrong of me to offer to give her my size 16 jeans or would that be like saying "Here, wear my fat clothes b/c they don't fit me anymore"?
    Primal since March 5, 2012
    SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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    • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
      The worst thing about FINALLY losing weight is the expense of getting new clothes - even if you get them from a thrift store... it's an expense I hadn't considered.
      One better: The worst thing about finally losing weight is having your wedding band become so loose that it slips off when you don't realize it, so you have to get a new wedding ring.

      (And the kicker was that two months after we bought the new ring, I found the old one. It had fallen off when I was cleaning in my son's bedroom, and I found it buried in a mound of stuff there. Yay, but sigh.)
      F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

      **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

      **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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      • Re: sharing clothes with someone who is losing weight, I don't think there's anything wrong with that, just think about how you offer them. You could potentially offend if you don't word it right, but if you're enthusiastic about her loss, and your own, she might be excited by the future of getting more of your hand-me-downs as you both lose weight.
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        • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
          Tash, there was a girl on the IPMG FB page who said she had a serious candida overgrowth problem so her doctor put her on what he called "strict Whole30" (I guess he wrote the introduction to the book or whatever). His definition of Strict Whole30 is Whole30 meats only... she hasn't been allowed to eat veggies or fruit for 7 months!! She was questioning the hair loss b/c her hormones, saliva test, thyroid, etc all check out normal. If you wanna read it, look for the one about hair loss. I can't imagine 7 months of eating only meat... I hope that's not the route you have to take.
          A fiber-free diet is definitely something that could work, but I don't think that's a good route to take. It would also require that I buy top quality meats, which would be massively expenses. I think Gut Sense: How to reverse and prevent constipation in children and adults has more of the answers that I'm looking for. Right now, I'm more concerned about this constipation than anything else. I'm not sure if I should go to a doctor or wait it out. =\
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          • Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
            A fiber-free diet is definitely something that could work, but I don't think that's a good route to take. It would also require that I buy top quality meats, which would be massively expenses. I think Gut Sense: How to reverse and prevent constipation in children and adults has more of the answers that I'm looking for. Right now, I'm more concerned about this constipation than anything else. I'm not sure if I should go to a doctor or wait it out. =\
            Hey NW, I was just breezing through this thread and saw your post. I've had constipation issues for over 6 years, I understand how absolutely AWEFUL it is to deal with. Obviously, it's not a one size fits all situation, so what worked for me may not for you, but I wanted to offer some suggestions in case it could help (I apologize if this ends up being a really pointless, boring summary of what you already know!)

            My constipation was off-and-on for years, initially triggered by a 4 month road trip. Everytime it reappeared, I tried every old wives' remedy (prunes, apples, psyllium husks/fiber supplements, ground flaxseed, salt water, fat, etc...) plus every OTC laxative, plus enemas, 'detox' diets/fasts, etc... Accupuncture helped initially, then didn't. Probiotics helped occasionally, but not usually. I went to 2 gastroenterologists (neither of whom helped).

            The thing that absolutely saved me was fiber menace. I can't recommend it enough. Specifically, his Hydro-C is the most (and only) effective thing I have ever taken to promote a BM. It works consistently, there's no gas or bloating, no dependency. Also, I'd recommend taking L-Glutamine (an amino acid that is produced by the body, but during times of stress or injury or illness, the body often can't produce enough of it to make the necessary repairs. It's critical for intestinal healing). And consuming as much fermented/cultured foods and probiotics as you can stand. Also, reducing the fiber is really important. Doing all those things helped my body to heal my IBS-C. It took a few months, so you have to be patient (and the Hydro-C works instantly so you don't have to continue suffering from constipation in the meanwhile.)

            To recap:
            1) Hydro-C
            2) L-glutamine
            3) Probiotics
            4) Low fiber

            Hope that wasn't a waste of your time!

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            • That is totally my game plan right now, BestBetter, thanks for the encouragement! I just started taking a Vitamin C capsule, like this one Solaray Vitamin C -- 1000 mg - 250 Vegetarian Capsules - Vitacost, except that it's "timed release" to issue part of the Vitamin C immediately, and the rest over the course of the day. In re-reading gutsense's info on Hydro-C, however, I think timed release might not be what I want right now. I also took an Emergen-C pack (dissolvable powder of Vitamin C, about 1000mg) last night, and it helped within 1/2 hr. Right now, I'm <TMI ALERT> not sure if I'm still constipated, or if my pelvic floor muscles are just so worn out from straining yesterday (had 3 separate eliminations, only the last came out easily after the Vitamin C) that it feels like I am.</ALERT>

              I may end up shilling out the $$ for Hydro-C, or I'll look for a comparable product with calcium and C. I don't think I've seen other products that have C, caclium, AND magnsium and potassium, especially not in a powdered form. Does one bottle last about a month?
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              • Originally posted by JackieKessler View Post
                One better: The worst thing about finally losing weight is having your wedding band become so loose that it slips off when you don't realize it, so you have to get a new wedding ring.

                (And the kicker was that two months after we bought the new ring, I found the old one. It had fallen off when I was cleaning in my son's bedroom, and I found it buried in a mound of stuff there. Yay, but sigh.)
                I had to have my college ring resized from a 9.5 to a 8.25, and it's even beginning to get loose on me again... crazy! I want the stomach fat gone not my fingers! :P
                Last edited by impala454; 08-27-2012, 04:26 PM.
                -Chuck

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                • Originally posted by impala454 View Post
                  I had to have my college ring resized from a 9.5 to a 8.25, and it's even beginning to get loose on me again... crazy! I want the stomach fat gone not my fingers! :P
                  Just make sure you don't lose the ring.
                  F, 44 years old, 111.8 lbs, 4 feet 11.5 inches (yes, that half inch matters!)

                  **1st place sparring, AAU TKD regional qualifier, 2/15/15 - It's damn good to hit like a girl!**

                  **First-ever 5K race 11/28/13: 37 minutes, 18+ seconds, no stopping**

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                  • My dad bought his college ring in a HUGE size (he doesn't wear rings aside from his wedding band anyway) because he thought, as a skinny young man in his early 20s, he would "get bigger" (not necessarily fatter, which he did) when he continued growing up. ><

                    Some of my favorite rings are a bit looser on me now than they were when I was lighter, in college. I guess that's because I've got a similar (or lower) amount of body fat, or it's better distributed, and I have more muscle.

                    BTW, I had ice cream last night. Fortunately, the yeast control supplements I'm taking seem to have eliminated any nasty flare-ups I might have gotten as a result. It was REALLY good, and just what I needed to motivate me to stick with my no-alcohol, low-fiber, no-sugar, low-carb diet to sort my gut out!
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                    • Day 26! I participated in a Sunday Funday. I drank wine. I drank cider. I was drunk and "accidentally" ate a tiny heel of crusty sourdough with real buttah. And I survived it all.
                      But, come Monday, I was plagued with crushing cravings for cheese and chewy bread, ala pizza. And a nasty hangover.
                      I didn't cave, as I've learned that those cravings were simply a result of re-introducing toxic foods back into my body, like a drug addict who just wants a taste...
                      I kept on track and ate my eggs, leftover cauli fried rice, pork and sauerkraut, fruit, roast chicken, and a nuked banana.
                      Today, I'm over it. And it's going to be a looooong time before I have another Sunday Funday!
                      “Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” Rumi

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                      • Today would be the official end of 30 days for me... I had planned to stick it out til the 31st though... but, this W30 was so much harder than other W30's I'd done. Maybe I made it too difficult by cutting fruit in addition to all sugars. Oh well. I'll try again in January. Wait... son's birthday is in January... maybe February then.

                        I fully plan to "live" the Whole30 guidelines, but not strictly. If ice cream is presented, I'll likely enjoy some. If gluten free cookies are presented, I'll enjoy some. Milk, same thing, but probably more likely cheese, sour cream and cream cheese before milk. I'll keep it at a minimum and if I find myself going down that slope, I'll jump on board the Whole30 for a few days again. Maybe for a week, two weeks, whatever. But come February, it's on!
                        Primal since March 5, 2012
                        SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                        • Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                          That is totally my game plan right now, BestBetter, thanks for the encouragement! I just started taking a Vitamin C capsule, like this one Solaray Vitamin C -- 1000 mg - 250 Vegetarian Capsules - Vitacost, except that it's "timed release" to issue part of the Vitamin C immediately, and the rest over the course of the day. In re-reading gutsense's info on Hydro-C, however, I think timed release might not be what I want right now. I also took an Emergen-C pack (dissolvable powder of Vitamin C, about 1000mg) last night, and it helped within 1/2 hr. Right now, I'm <TMI ALERT> not sure if I'm still constipated, or if my pelvic floor muscles are just so worn out from straining yesterday (had 3 separate eliminations, only the last came out easily after the Vitamin C) that it feels like I am.</ALERT>

                          I may end up shilling out the $$ for Hydro-C, or I'll look for a comparable product with calcium and C. I don't think I've seen other products that have C, caclium, AND magnsium and potassium, especially not in a powdered form. Does one bottle last about a month?
                          I'd suspect that timed-release Vit C won't work, because it seems seems to only produce a BM when you get a bigger dose of C than your body can store. I tried both the Hydro-C, and vitamin C powder (I think ascorbic acid) that I bought in powder form from Trader Joe's (thinking this would be a little cheaper). For some reason, taking the ascorbic acid didn't produce a BM, but Hydro-c did everytime. Maybe it has to be in a specific form? Not really sure. But if your Emergen-C works, then you could stick with that (though I'm assuming it would be more expensively unless you buy it bulk). I'm pretty sure that one bottle of the Hydro-C lasted me about 2 months, taking it almost every day.

                          Even though I more or less got rid of the constipation, it always returns when I travel. So I bought a bottle specifically to bring around with me, and it works like a charm.

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                          • ^I love travelling and hope to do more in a couple of years when my boyfriend graduates, so I will keep that in mind. I'm a bit annoyed that I bought that timed release Vit C, don't want to waste money.

                            Alacer Emergen-C® Vitamin C Fizzy Drink Mix Tangerine -- 1000 mg - 30 Packets - Vitacost
                            A lot of extra ingredients, but very cheap for a 30-day supply. I'll keep looking. Things seem to be clearing up now, but I might buy a week supply of Emergen-C packs to ensure that things keep moving a long initially before I give myself the "all clear"
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                            • Evening everyone. I don't have much to add tonight, just wanted to check in and be proud of the fact that I am still holding strong with just over two days to go. I overate on nuts again - damn you, giant tub of raw mixed nuts! - but otherwise I have enough meat and veggies around that I'm hoping to coast to the finish line.
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                              • I am going to be doing something similar to Whole30 but with specific macro goals for a while. I want to go ketogenic for 2 weeks and see if I can't break this plateau. A friend of mine here was plateauing for 3 months before she tried this macro ratio and has since lost 4 lbs (in like a week). She's doing 10% carbs, 20% protein and 70% fat on 1500 calories a day. She thought maybe she was a little low on fat and since she doesn't work out, didn't think she needed all that protein, so she adjusted based on the information she read here: The Eating Academy | Peter Attia, M.D. The Eating Academy | Peter Attia, M.D. and it's been working for her. We'll give it a try and see what happens. I'll have to be Whole30 compliant in order to meet that low carb goal - and sadly, will have to significantly reduce my fruit intake... *sigh*

                                Since I gave up my whole30, I've developed a cough... it's allergy related. it's lovely. (not really). Hoping getting back on track will reduce the symptoms.
                                Primal since March 5, 2012
                                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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