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  • Anyone heard of Progurt?

    I've got a friend that has been taking Progurt for a few months and she says its changed the way she feels.
    Is this stuff just a gimmick or does it really work?

    Sounds interesting with 420 strains of bacteria to 20 in most other food stuff!

    Any opinions would be welcome

    Thanks

  • #2
    I cannot find any information to suggest 420 strains of bacteria...
    None.

    As a matter of fact, they don't list the strains at all on their website.
    It simply says "Multiple-strains of probiotic Lactic Acid Bacteria (LAB), Bifido Bacteria, yeast extract and dietary fibre, all in a proprietary formulation."

    Many yoghurt starter cultures that can be purchased over the internet contain multiple strains of Lacto and Bifido strains, as well as Strepto (particularly S. thermo- extra good at converting lactose to lactase) strains. There are also many places to get the ultra starters for higher probiotic counts.

    This looks like its just a marketing things so it's all available (maker, starter, etc.) from one company on one website.

    Basically its just saying that homemade yoghurt is better than store bought... sort of a no brainer. Big companies use minimum cultures and culture times, they add thickeners, flavorings etc., time in processing, packing, shipping, and sitting on the shelves can decrease probiotic counts.

    Making homemade yoghurt is great... but I'm not buying the sales pitch that THIS homemade yoghurt is 'better'.
    All yoghurt is made via the action of those little cultures reviving, splitting, eating/digesting, and creating their yummy waste until the milk is no longer milk... and that takes a LOT of little beasts, whatever numbers you want to throw at it... 1 trillion, 100 billion...

    That's my yoghurt makin 2c.
    Last edited by cori93437; 07-28-2012, 10:32 PM.
    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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    • #3
      what cori said.
      my primal journal:
      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Primal-Journal

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      • #4
        Smells like another case of Activia BS. By definition, all yogurt is "progurt".
        “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
          I cannot find any information to suggest 420 strains of bacteria...
          None.

          As a matter of fact, they don't list the strains at all on their website.
          It simply says "Multiple-strains of probiotic Lactic Acid Bacteria (LAB), Bifido Bacteria, yeast extract and dietary fibre, all in a proprietary formulation."

          Many yoghurt starter cultures that can be purchased over the internet contain multiple strains of Lacto and Bifido strains, as well as Strepto (particularly S. thermo- extra good at converting lactose to lactase) strains. There are also many places to get the ultra starters for higher probiotic counts.

          This looks like its just a marketing things so it's all available (maker, starter, etc.) from one company on one website.

          Basically its just saying that homemade yoghurt is better than store bought... sort of a no brainer. Big companies use minimum cultures and culture times, they add thickeners, flavorings etc., time in processing, packing, shipping, and sitting on the shelves can decrease probiotic counts.

          Making homemade yoghurt is great... but I'm not buying the sales pitch that THIS homemade yoghurt is 'better'.
          All yoghurt is made via the action of those little cultures reviving, splitting, eating/digesting, and creating their yummy waste until the milk is no longer milk... and that takes a LOT of little beasts, whatever numbers you want to throw at it... 1 trillion, 100 billion...

          That's my yoghurt makin 2c.
          Thanks for the reply.

          It looks like there is only one obscure website that gives the 420 strain.

          All the other sites state that its the "Human Probiotic Isolate™" ??

          Is this exclusive to this product or do all other pro biopics have the human strain?

          I'm just wondering if we get our probiotics from dairy then its the strains from that animal or am i misinformed?

          Thanks again for the replys. Any other opinions would be greatly received.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CuriousAdelaide View Post
            Thanks for the reply.
            It looks like there is only one obscure website that gives the 420 strain.
            All the other sites state that its the "Human Probiotic Isolate™" ??
            Is this exclusive to this product or do all other pro biopics have the human strain?
            I'm just wondering if we get our probiotics from dairy then its the strains from that animal or am i misinformed?
            Thanks again for the replys. Any other opinions would be greatly received.
            Would you please provide that obscure website? My limited knowledge of LB cultures as well as sales & marketing experience & a business degree in Management, going back to the 1980s, leads me to say this... "CAVEAT EMPTOR". My way of thinking is that bacteria, good or bad compete with each other. There MIGHT be a ceiling on how many cultures can co-exist with each other, given a limited amount of food (lactose, fat, protein) in any given finite growing medium (a bowl of milk...) Let's see this URL, so we can rip it or laud it...
            "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
            "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
            "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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            • #7
              Progurt Store

              15 sachets for $300? that's about a month's supply, best i can tell. are you effing kidding me?
              As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

              – Ernest Hemingway

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Betorq View Post
                Would you please provide that obscure website? My limited knowledge of LB cultures as well as sales & marketing experience & a business degree in Management, going back to the 1980s, leads me to say this... "CAVEAT EMPTOR". My way of thinking is that bacteria, good or bad compete with each other. There MIGHT be a ceiling on how many cultures can co-exist with each other, given a limited amount of food (lactose, fat, protein) in any given finite growing medium (a bowl of milk...) Let's see this URL, so we can rip it or laud it...
                Hope this helps
                Orgonium Orgone Energy Health & Well-Being Blog: Do You Know About Progurt - A Probiotic Made With Human Gut Flora

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
                  Progurt Store

                  15 sachets for $300? that's about a month's supply, best i can tell. are you effing kidding me?
                  I know? After picking my eyes up off the floor i was just kinda keen to find out if this Human strain was genuine or not.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CuriousAdelaide View Post
                    Thanks for the reply.

                    It looks like there is only one obscure website that gives the 420 strain.

                    All the other sites state that its the "Human Probiotic Isolate™" ??

                    Is this exclusive to this product or do all other pro biopics have the human strain?

                    I'm just wondering if we get our probiotics from dairy then its the strains from that animal or am i misinformed?

                    Thanks again for the replys. Any other opinions would be greatly received.
                    Perhaps you could give a link to the site that claims 420 strains?

                    As for "the human strain" thing... there are many probiotic bacteria that are beneficial to humans.
                    I think the point of origin for the probiotic is a bit irrelevant as long as it is a beneficial strain. I also think that his "Human Probiotic Isolate™" moniker is just a fancy way of saying "all of these strains of probiotic bacteria are known to live in the human gut".

                    Scientists have studied many, many strains of probiotic bacteria and shown that some are beneficial for very specific things... and others are just generally great to have in you.

                    However, not all of these strains can live and grow well in a milk culture such as yogurt, and if they are added will simply die off, or be overwhelmed by the strains that have a preference for that environment.
                    That's why some probiotic strains are mostly only found in suspended form in caplets and such... they are gown in a lab under the correct conditions... which may not include milk at all... then put through a process so that they hibernate, then encapsulated instead of being put into that foil packet that is used to make the "progurt".
                    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                    • #11
                      that's more than i spend for an entire month's worth of groceries!
                      As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                      – Ernest Hemingway

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                      • #12
                        Sounds like overpriced garbage...its probably no better than you could get from places that are a ton cheaper for the same stuff. That being said I don't have any nutrient tests on it or other yogurt ...so I could be wrong...I doubt it though. If you find a nutrient comparison you can trust on it compared to other yogurt than go for it. Otherwise I wouldn't waste that kind of money just to see if its better.
                        Age: 28
                        Height: 6'1"
                        Primal start date: July 1st 2011
                        Start Weight: 275
                        Current Weight: 248
                        Stats below as of September 1st 2011 Tested via BodPod
                        Body Fat 25.4%
                        Fat Mass 63.721
                        Fat Free Mass 74.6%
                        Fat Free Mass 187.087
                        Goal weight: 180-200 lbs(Recommended weight is around 180 for my height but that sounds low)
                        Total lost so far: 27 lbs

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                          Perhaps you could give a link to the site that claims 420 strains?
                          As for "the human strain" thing... there are many probiotic bacteria that are beneficial to humans.
                          I think the point of origin for the probiotic is a bit irrelevant as long as it is a beneficial strain. I also think that his "Human Probiotic Isolate™" moniker is just a fancy way of saying "all of these strains of probiotic bacteria are known to live in the human gut". Scientists have studied many, many strains of probiotic bacteria and shown that some are beneficial for very specific things... and others are just generally great to have in you. However, not all of these strains can live and grow well in a milk culture such as yogurt, and if they are added will simply die off, or be overwhelmed by the strains that have a preference for that environment. That's why some probiotic strains are mostly only found in suspended form in caplets and such... they are gown in a lab under the correct conditions... which may not include milk at all... then put through a process so that they hibernate, then encapsulated instead of being put into that foil packet that is used to make the "progurt".
                          What cori said /|\
                          "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
                          "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
                          "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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                          • #14
                            You wanna grow Super Duper yogurt & glowing health? Get a healthy breed of goat that comes from a hearty line of long lived milk producers. Feed your goat tons of mineral rich greens, scrap foods from your kitchen & herbs. And love your goat & show her how much you love her. Then make your own yogurt & consume it 3x a day, if you can handle that much dairy. Eh voila'!
                            "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
                            "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
                            "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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                            • #15
                              What did you guys think of the weblink?

                              Orgonium Orgone Energy Health & Well-Being Blog: Do You Know About Progurt - A Probiotic Made With Human Gut Flora

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