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    So, recently I've been gifted with these beautiful lumps and bumps over my upper arms.

    As usual, CW says there's no cure etc etc, but I'm sure this must be dietary. Does anyone know what causes it / how to get rid of it? Exfoliating makes it worse.
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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    vitamin A will be your new best friend. mine improve significantly when i get plenty of A
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    • #3
      Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
      So, recently I've been gifted with these beautiful lumps and bumps over my upper arms.

      As usual, CW says there's no cure etc etc, but I'm sure this must be dietary. Does anyone know what causes it / how to get rid of it? Exfoliating makes it worse.
      There can be many different causes for this...Some people say it's a certain parasitic infection of the skin. It could be. Or, it's may the result of inflammation in the body. CW says that what is happening is the skin is producing too much keratin.

      For me, what helps the most is staying on a very strict, candida-like diet + avoiding possible toxic cosmetic products (I don't put any lotion on my skin and use soap maybe once or twice a week) + and certain supplements (I used to take Vit A, it didn't help me much, but we're all different). Right now, mine is about 95% cleared, after 2 years of being Primal and a Candida-like diet. Recently, the back of my arms have been very smooth and the red bumps are not as noticeable as they have ever been. The only thing I do now is: Include berries in my diet, lots of meat and healthy fats (EVOO, EVCO, Grass fed beef fat, Ghee), Macadamia nuts, more variety of vegetables & a bit raw vegetable salads (such as cucumbers + radishes + celery + tomatoes). Supplement wise I take Magnesium (150-300mg a day) + Zinc (200 mg zinc & 15 mg copper) + Lysine (500 mg) + Fish Oil (which I believe helps tremendously). I try to get Vit E from foods, such as EVOO + Eggs + nuts (not very often). I've also been sitting in the sun a lot more. So, I guess Vit D as well.

      I used to have KP all over my body. Legs, up and down arms, stomach, they were all covered. Now, my arms and stomach are all that is left, and are barely noticeable and are smooth(er). Ever since I started a detox protocol from the guidance of a holistic practitioner + cleaning up my diet, I've seen large and vast improvements. Of course, my health was a lot worse than most people.

      Point of all this is: Don't single out a single cause..It could be a blend of things and/or it may be something different with you. Try and experiment with your diet and supplements. If nothing changes within a week to 3 weeks, then change it up and take notes. You'll definitely see some improvements this way.

      If you have any more questions about my experience, just let me know.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Zelli88 View Post
        There can be many different causes for this...Some people say it's a certain parasitic infection of the skin. It could be. Or, it's may the result of inflammation in the body. CW says that what is happening is the skin is producing too much keratin.
        Thanks for the long reply Zelli88. Yeah, I suspect that the reasons people get it are as varied as the reasons they get acne. I'll try your suggestions!

        Also adding carrots back into the food plan
        "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

        In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

        - Ray Peat

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        • #5
          If it is KP, it's genetic and there isn't a cure. However, you can do several things to improve your overall skin health and keep your skin free of bumps and redness. If you don't already, start taking 2 fish oil capsules a day (It promotes healthy skin). Eat a high protein, low carb diet (It hasn't been proven yet, but lots of people are starting to think that gluten has something to do with how often and how bad you get the bumps and redness on your skin).

          This may sound weird if you're a guy, but it's very important to exfoliate and moisturize daily. Mind updating us on your progress?

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          • #6
            I remember having this as a teenager and my dad told me to rub the area with a towel when I had a shower. It worked! I agree that it could be multi factorial.

            You say it's recent - any lifestyle changes lately?
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            • #7
              Are you supplementing vitamin k2 and magnesium? Deficiencies in k and magnesium can result in resorption of bone minerals
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              • #8
                When it comes to any kind of skin issue I think its important to make sure you are getting enough vitamin E in your diet. The best dietary source I know of for vitamin E is sunflower seeds. 4 tablespoons = 100 percent of your daily requirement. Bloodorchid mentioned vitamin A, Derpamix mentioned K and magnesium, Zelli88 mentioned zinc, copper and vitamin E. What food has all of these? Spinach !!

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                • #9
                  yogabare - I sorted this problem with skin brushing. Get a gentle brush from the chemist and always brush the skin towards the trunk. ie legs - start at the feet and brush up, arms - start at the hands and brush towards your shoulders. Skin brushing stimulates the lymph nodes, and helps to detox the skin. Wash the brush after skin brushing. You can do it with wet or dry skin, however I prefer in the shower, and then the dead skin cells drain away !!!

                  good luck
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                  ...small steps....

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                  • #10
                    KP runs in my family. I have/had it... some of my cousins have it. My son has it.
                    I'm not really sure about those older than us... but I assume some of my uncles have it since I do and my cousins do.

                    We all have it on our outside upper arms. Pretty textbook KP. Mine is limited to there. I think my son's is too.
                    I say that I "have/had" it because since being primal it has become pretty much undetectable.
                    Maybe just a slight roughness on occasion, never the really rough and red patchy mess that it used to get sometimes.

                    When I was younger and wanted to keep it at bay for vanity's sake I used a mild lactic acid lotion like Amlactin or Lac-Hydrin 5 on it every day. Unlike some of the other 'acids' lactic acid isn't so drying.
                    You can get the Amlactin at Walmart I believe.
                    It simply continuously exfoliates the extra buildup of keratin that causes the bumpiness with a bit of acid... less irritating than scrubbing the already red patches, and moisturizes and softens it too.
                    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                    • #11
                      I have this on my arms and legs - always have done. With current primal diet...low carb, moderate protein, high-ish fat..my skin is quite smooth and the bumps aren't raised, but they're still visible. I definitely get plenty Vit A and E and omega 3s.

                      Skin brushing is the thing I always come back to....I've just got a lousy memory and keep forgetting to do it. One of these days I'll get to it consistently and see if it actually helps!

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