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  • #16
    Originally posted by Classic View Post
    I love the way the food tastes right out of the garden. Broccoli has an amazing color and flavor when it is cooked just moments out of the garden.
    We have started a new garden at our new house this year and it certainly takes a lot of elbow grease to get a new plot ready and all the grass removed. That quack grass will make you crazy but I love gardening and watching things grow.

    Our season was a little slow this year because it was so cool for soooo long. I still don't have a tomato ready. Lots of brassicas though. They love the cool wet weather. Good thing those are our favorite veggies.

    I also started a berry patch. I had raspberry bushes for years but am trying blueberries this year for the first time. They seem to be a bit more fussy but I thought I would give it a whirl. Berries are another thing that tend to grow well in the NW.
    I miss broccoli!!
    It grows like a weed at our place, but I just can't deal with those dang green worms. No matter how much I spray & soak & inspect, every time I steamed up a pot there'd be steamed worms too. And row covers are a pain! I guess there are limits to eating primal for me

    The weeds are growing like weeds too, but I hand pull most of the juicy stuff like pig & chickweed and feed it to the ......wait for it...... pigs & chickens!
    I'm sure it's full of vitamins & whatnot.

    I planted blueberries under our fir trees once, thinking they'd grow like the wild ones. They died. The black currants are happy in partial shade though and the raspberries are going crazy. Funny what stuff likes our PNW climate, rain or shine...
    Seven Trees Farm - diversified subsistence farming on 1.25 acres.

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    • #17
      I found a ladybug in the garden this morning~ remarkable, because here, in the desert, they fly away to the mountains as soon as the temps. get into the high 80's/90's. Several years ago, we brought a bunch (don't know how many but would fill a C measure tightly packed) back down to the lowlands and my aphid infested melons. They stayed long enough to clean up the mess and reproduce~ the offspring (I think) imprinted (?) anyway, this is the fourth year they've shown up just in the nick of time to save my melons! Imagine that, aphid eaters when you actually need them!

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      • #18
        Fir trees (and most conifers) are allelopathic and don't play nice with a lot of other plants.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by aix_sponsa View Post
          I have a little garden that I put a lot of work into this spring. It produced lots of cherry tomatoes, cucumbers (the taste of a fresh one straight from the garden is so different than a store bought one!), yellow squash, and black eyed peas. We got a few weeks of torrential rain, followed by blistering heat, and everything died. Now I'm just waiting to start over with a fall garden! I'd like to grow broccoli and lettuce.

          For gardening related online communities, check out GardenWeb and Homesteading Today, two other forums I frequent (Homesteading Today's forum is a wealth of information on self sufficiency, not all that different from the values of the primal community!)

          Jenny
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          • #20
            I am! Grew all my own salad green for about 4 months (all bolted now)....odd thing haven't had a salad since . I have this book Amazon.com: Gaia's Garden, Second Edition: A Guide To Home-Scale Permaculture (9781603580298): Toby Hemenway: Books which is basically permaculture on a backyard scale.

            My garden this year was completely free form and I loved it (beens, peppers, tomatoes, squash, and second round of carrots, radishes, broccoli coming in now)! All the different stuff just intermingled and working togeather. No rows....and best of all NO WEEDS! Dense planting with various vegetables is an awesome way to reduce disease and weeds while also making the absolute best use of a small space IMO. I'm no advanced gardener (only about 6-7 years doing it), but I love this style. I even planted some fruit trees and berry shrubs for some long term turn out. Can't wait to see what that brings!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by KerryK View Post
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                My garden this year was completely free form and I loved it (beens, peppers, tomatoes, squash, and second round of carrots, radishes, broccoli coming in now)! All the different stuff just intermingled and working togeather. No rows....and best of all NO WEEDS! Dense planting with various vegetables is an awesome way to reduce disease and weeds while also making the absolute best use of a small space IMO. I'm no advanced gardener (only about 6-7 years doing it), but I love this style. I even planted some fruit trees and berry shrubs for some long term turn out. Can't wait to see what that brings!
                What kind of consistency do you have?

                One thing I've noticed with some growing methods is that there can be huge variations in yield and quality. I've tried a lot of different styles, from permaculture, bio-intensive, square foot, Steve Solomon, John Jeavons, Eliott Coleman, Helen & Scott Nearing, one straw revolution, etc. and no one method is a sure thing when your household depends on what you grow for food.

                Having a big menu of methods to use for a wide variety of growing situations is a great idea. Some years, or some crops, one method may work better than another. But you should always be ready to learn and experiment and be flexible.

                I have to admit being pretty happy to have all the elbow room I need to grow, after trying the small-scale ways. I use composted manure and nettle tea to feed the plants, and they usually grow happily. So do the weeds, but our crazy dark & wet weather doesn't help with that. We are using sheets of black visqueen to kill sod, then we till it, cover it, and till a few more times. Eventually the weed seeds all germinate, and we can plant. It's an investment, but we're going to be here a long time.

                We're also getting ready to use our horse for farm work, so we need a certain amount of spacing. It's all a learning curve...
                Seven Trees Farm - diversified subsistence farming on 1.25 acres.

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                • #23
                  Yes, we have black plastic all over the place this year since we are working this land for the first time this year and are starting from grass and the weeds that grow in it including a lot of thistle. We do have a lot of nettles and will be trying nettle tea soon.

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                  • #24
                    Berries are just coming in here, and despite the ravages of North Americain native currant fruit fly (I hate it!) we are getting lovely bunch of berries every day. Carrots, herbs, and beets are all from the garden now too, and peas.... Not to mention fresh flowers.

                    Everybody keeps telling me how hard gardening is and how much work, but I don't mind it, and even though I do drop the ball when I am busy, I enjoy raising my garden. There is just something so good about spending half an hour or so in the yard after work picking berries, herbs and other stuff for the supper table....

                    In a few years my trees will be fruiting too, and I am hoping that putting plastic down will give me better crops from my currants.
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                    • #25
                      What a bunch of great ideas, thanks! Now all we need is RAIN!!
                      Best--
                      Kate

                      Still Craving Pterodactyl--my Primal Blueprint blog

                      70 is the new 50--without the hot flashes!

                      Goals: Feel good, be stronger, and hopefully kick that arthritis in the backside! Oh, yeah, and losing more weight would be okay, too.

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                      • #26
                        Wow, I guess the season is officially over for us--hard frost last night! I collected a big basket of mostly green tomatoes, mostly small Romas--and will be making green tomato relish or chutney. I fried two of the bigger ones with dinner tonight (YUM. Arrowroot starch does just fine for "breading"), and have two more to do. There was one pepper big enough to use normally, and several to slip into the relish...and one little stunted cucumber. The cabbage never did anything, and the squash died a horrible death weeks ago, thanks to squash borers...but we loved them while we had them. What a great experiment this has been!
                        Best--
                        Kate

                        Still Craving Pterodactyl--my Primal Blueprint blog

                        70 is the new 50--without the hot flashes!

                        Goals: Feel good, be stronger, and hopefully kick that arthritis in the backside! Oh, yeah, and losing more weight would be okay, too.

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                        • #27
                          We have just put in 2 3x7 raised beds to get our feet wet. We have done similar scale raised beds in the distant past so this seemed a good restart for us. Altogether we have 1.2 acres, about half wooded, so I'd like to expand as we get our garden legs. There are a lot of wild raspberries along the woods at our property line and plenty of places good for blueberries, figs, some fruit trees and a lot more vegetables. I would like to plant some pawpaw as they are native to our area and can't be had commercially.

                          Kate, do you think arrowroot would work for a tempura-style batter?
                          50yo, 5'3"
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                          GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
                            We have just put in 2 3x7 raised beds to get our feet wet. We have done similar scale raised beds in the distant past so this seemed a good restart for us. Altogether we have 1.2 acres, about half wooded, so I'd like to expand as we get our garden legs. There are a lot of wild raspberries along the woods at our property line and plenty of places good for blueberries, figs, some fruit trees and a lot more vegetables. I would like to plant some pawpaw as they are native to our area and can't be had commercially.

                            Kate, do you think arrowroot would work for a tempura-style batter?
                            I think it would work fine, Laura! I'm probably going to try it...I was very pleased with the result tonight.
                            Best--
                            Kate

                            Still Craving Pterodactyl--my Primal Blueprint blog

                            70 is the new 50--without the hot flashes!

                            Goals: Feel good, be stronger, and hopefully kick that arthritis in the backside! Oh, yeah, and losing more weight would be okay, too.

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                            • #29
                              Man, you guys make me super jealous. I have only my balcony garden (pics in my signature link), so growing enough food for more than a small salad is a bit out the question! I do have quite a few herbs though, and sitting amongst my greenery while I cross stitch makes me happy
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Kate Ruckman View Post
                                I think it would work fine, Laura! I'm probably going to try it...I was very pleased with the result tonight.
                                OK then! I just watched Anne Burrell make cheese stuffed, fried zucchini blossoms. In addition to looking really cool and tasty, I thought it would be a great way to keep the zucchini crop to a manageable level.
                                50yo, 5'3"
                                SW-195
                                CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
                                GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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