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    I just received a letter that I have to go to Ireland because of school. With 2 other guys we will be placed in an Irish family. As expected, I have 0% control over the meals. I was wondering, will I most likely only get wheat with soybean oil or are most Irish meals quite decent?
    Please tell me beans are not a staple because they cause insane heartburn

    I will bring a jar of coconut oil, and canned fish liver and protein powder anyway.
    well then

  • #2
    Bread is a huuuuge staple of the Irish diet... as are potatoes.

    Where in Ireland are you going? If you're in Dublin, Galway, Cork or even Limerick you'll find health food shops, in the smaller towns it may prove more difficult.
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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    • #3
      Aaaahahahahahahahaha. You are going to have a meltdown.
      You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
        Bread is a huuuuge staple of the Irish diet... as are potatoes.

        Where in Ireland are you going? If you're in Dublin, Galway, Cork or even Limerick you'll find health food shops, in the smaller towns it may prove more difficult.
        Dublin, I guess I'll try to get a lot of food from health stores but i can't cook over there..
        well then

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        • #5
          Hmm, in Dublin you may be okay - tell your family that you're allergic to wheat, otherwise they will feed you sandwiches and pasta all day long. Meat is also a staple of the Irish diet, and on the upside, all our beef is pasture rared
          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

          - Ray Peat

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          • #6
            It's easy to find organic stuff around here (really nice organic greek yogurt and other dairy). They don't eat much beans... but a lot of crap. chips, pizza, gross processed meats and sausages, chinese take away (all the time)... generally really unhealthy. If you are going to be buying your own food it's easy to find grass fed meat etc as well.
            If you get a nice family they might just eat meat + potatoes a lot and fairly healthy, but most don't seem to cook...
            Last edited by homunculus; 07-12-2012, 06:42 AM.
            “There is immeasurably more left inside than what comes out in words…”
            — Fyodor Dostoevsky

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            • #7
              Irish meat is really good - beef, lamb - yum! Even living in Belgium I buy mostly Irish beef. So I hope you won't be placed with vegetarians But I would go the cheeky way and say to the hosts that I am allergic to wheat and ... (choose another "evil" or two). Potatoes seem to be served everywhere and with everything though.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by homunculus View Post
                It's easy to find organic stuff around here (really nice organic greek yogurt and other dairy). They don't eat much beans... but a lot of crap. chips, pizza, gross processed meats and sausages, chinese take away (all the time)... generally really unhealthy. If you are going to be buying your own food it's easy to find grass fed meat etc as well.
                If you get a nice family they might just eat meat + potatoes a lot and fairly healthy, but most don't seem to cook...
                I'll help them a lot with the household so they start liking me and then ask them if I can cook my own meals and hope they approve
                I googled some health stores in dublin an checked out their products but non of the stores I found sold any meat at all..
                well then

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gadsie View Post
                  I'll help them a lot with the household so they start liking me and then ask them if I can cook my own meals and hope they approve
                  I googled some health stores in dublin an checked out their products but non of the stores I found sold any meat at all..
                  You get the meat in normal stores, Tesco etc sell organic. It's easy to find around here
                  “There is immeasurably more left inside than what comes out in words…”
                  — Fyodor Dostoevsky

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                  • #10
                    Hi Gadsie,

                    If you're in Dublin, you'll probably get cereal for breakfast, a sandwich for lunch, and meat + potatoes + veg like peas for dinner (if you're lucky!).

                    Is there any possibility of contacting the family you will be staying with beforehand? Is it up to them to cook your meals?
                    I can't see anyone having a problem with you cooking your own food.

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                    • #11
                      It's tough to summarise the eating habits of an entire nation without resorting to stereotypes but I'll give it a shot..

                      Breakfast:
                      Breakfast is generally bad - cereal or porridge with (often low fat) milk with sugar sprinkled on top - either that or grains in the form of bread + butter, toast + butter or scones + butter + sugar saturated jam or marmalade -

                      Breakfast can improve dramatically at weekends when it's very common to have it in the form of a fry-up - This would normally consist of any or all of eggs (fried and/or scrambled), bacon, sausages*, black & white pudding, baked beans, tomato, mushrooms & potato bread - If you're charming enough it shouldn't be a push to request the more primal friendly of these every morning - It's quick, cheap & damn tasty - This would probably be the staple breakfast if it wasn't considered an unhealthy treat**

                      Lunch:
                      Lunch isn't really treated as a serious meal - It's more a gap-filler between breakfast & dinner & usually takes the form of a sandwich or whatever is being served at the deli counter in the supermarket that day - It shouldn't pose much of a problem - most places that provide sandwiches will offer a salad bowl equivalent (i.e. sans the bread) & any self respecting deli will have plenty meat + veg - Homecookingwise lunch would normally be whatever's left over from the previous days dinner -

                      Dinner:
                      Despite the surge in popularity of rice, pasta et al, dinner rarely strays from the traditional meat + 2 veg - The pro here is that this is extremely primal, the con is that 99.6% of the time the domineering of the 2 veg will be potato in one of innumerable guises - It's not uncommon that the 2nd of the 2 veg will also be potato but in a different form - The question 'would you like some mash with your boiled/roasted/baked/fried/steamed/broiled/grilled spuds?' isn't as unusual as it might sound -

                      In general you can find anything you want without going too far - You can barely move without tripping over a butcher with locally sourced, grass fed beef, chicken lamb and pork - Fish is fresh and plentiful - Specialist health food shops tend to charge an arm and a leg for items you can easily get in a regular shop - Try Superquinn for coconut oil (cocowel brand is delicious, the stuff they sell in Spar now is septic) - Tesco & Marks&Spencers seem to have extracted oil from every known animal, vegetable & mineral - Although I haven’t come across avocado oil in a while - Rarer items might require some exploration - e.g. I'm off to the African shops on Moore street in a minute to track down some red palm oil - It's a rare house that wouldn't have a larder or pantry filled with fresh fruit and vegetables - farmers markets are spreading like Chlamydia but again tend to over charge for the same produce you can get in a lot of shops and greengrocers -

                      Also note that you will be force-fed Lyons or Barrys tea (don't ever imply an affiliation with the former if the latter is served in a particular household - This amounts to treason and is still punishable by hanging) roughly every 6 minutes - Although, normally served with a dash of milk & a liberal dose of sugar it's perfectly acceptable, and in some cases considered pretty hardcore, to request it 'black' (without milk or sugar) - Green, white & herbal teas are also gaining traction though in certain circles you may still be ostracised for requesting such -

                      'Traditional' Irish dishes such as Coddle & Colcannon are a scam to fob off poorer quality potatoes on gullible tourists so don't bother - Irish stew, however, is delicious and perfectly primal, normally comprising of lamb or beef slow cooked in a plethora of vegetables in a tasty broth - It's also funny that, although considered the gold standard for Primal cooking, it's pretty much a given that there's a pound of Kerrygold butter in every fridge in the country..

                      *most sausages, although ridiculously tasty, are very high in carbs - Some shops, like Superquinn, make sausages in store which can be 85%+ pork & <5% carbs

                      **The drinking culture in Ireland is not a myth - It's rampant! For this reason you may hear a fry-up referred to as 'lining' (if served in the morning) or 'soakage' (if served in the evening)
                      'I would happily buy a book called “The Ruffled Pink Panties System of Frilly Little Bodyweight Endeavors For Gentlemen of Quality” if the information in it would make me strong' - Josh Hanagarne

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                      • #12
                        Thanks guys. I guess I'm going to have a huge protein deficit if I can't buy my own food which I don't count on. I 'll take protein powder with me, I know it's not healthy anyway, but is there anything specific i should be looking for/avoiding when buying protein powder?
                        well then

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                        • #13
                          I dunno for sure, but we make Cornbeef, cabbage, and potatoes for our Irish holiday meals......

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                          • #14
                            Ok, not sure where you picked up the notion that you won't be getting enough protein - Apart from weekday breakfasts you'll rarely see an Irish meal that doesn't include a big chunk of meat, fish or cheese - And there's no need to bring protein powder, you can easily source it in Dubin..
                            'I would happily buy a book called “The Ruffled Pink Panties System of Frilly Little Bodyweight Endeavors For Gentlemen of Quality” if the information in it would make me strong' - Josh Hanagarne

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                            • #15
                              Here's a thought.


                              Is this some kind of cultural exchange program? If so, how about experiencing the culture, including its food. It may be heresy on these forums, but one month will not kill you, you ate most of this stuff for the first however many years of your life?

                              I would think it incredibly rude to be invited into someone's home, and then tell them that their cooking wasn't up to your standards, and you'd like to cook your own meals.

                              Just a thought.

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