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    Unless you live in a cave and run your own traps and hunt, at some point you are faced with either packing a primal meal or eating out and there are times when you have to eat out.

    Family gatherings at a resturant, business lunch/dinner, a date or just because you are hungry, chances are you are going to have to buy off a menu and make do with what the choices put in front of you.

    I thought it might be of benefit to us all to start a thread about what to do when you have to order off a menu.

    With a few exceptions, chances are you will not find a resturant that offers an ideal a grass-fed, gluten free menu but, while not completely primal, you can make choices that are better for you than others.

    For me, I often eat out with my family. And with the exception of myself, they are pretty much 100% CW eaters. That can be a challange for me but I usually work things out okay.

    When my wife and I go eat out, we usually eat at Saltgrass Steakhouse. Pretty much a no-brainer for me. Big steak, salad with no dressing or on the side, no bread and, they have baked sweet potatoes.

    My kids like Red Robin which is a bit more of a challange but they do have a bunless burger and I can add bacon to it along with avacado slices.

    If I have to eat fastfood, I either go to a convience store and pickup some almonds or beef jerky or order a Whopper and just eat the meat. Not ideal but does ok in a pinch.

    Any other ideas?
    Randal
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    Originally posted by texas.grok
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    Eating out on Primal is pretty basic. You can go anywhere that serves meat and vegetables. It's not exactly something you should be overthinking.
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    • #3
      Make sure to ask whether anything is added to the vegetables -- many places add a soy-based spray to make their "steamed vegetables" more colorful/shinier. Best to ask if they have a GF/soy-free menu ahead of time.

      (It's crap like this that gets me mad. It never, in a billion years, would have occurred to me that places would add non-primal stuff to their steamed veggies. I swear, it's the hidden crap that gets you...)
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      • #4
        I'd order fish. That doesn't have to be grassfed. I have to eat out once a week and I always order cod fillet fried in butter
        well then

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
          Eating out on Primal is pretty basic. You can go anywhere that serves meat and vegetables. It's not exactly something you should be overthinking.
          Well, you would think it was pretty basic but even things like confirming that the oil they give you with your vinager is olive oil and they steak they cook you is done in actual butter is something to think about. If you only eat out once a week or less, then it is no big thing I suppose but my family and I seem to eat out several times a week so I try to be a bit more careful.

          And for frequent travelers, a few hints and tips from others might be of benefit.
          Randal
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          Originally posted by texas.grok
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          • #6
            Originally posted by texas.grok View Post
            Well, you would think it was pretty basic but even things like confirming that the oil they give you with your vinager is olive oil and they steak they cook you is done in actual butter is something to think about. If you only eat out once a week or less, then it is no big thing I suppose but my family and I seem to eat out several times a week so I try to be a bit more careful.

            And for frequent travelers, a few hints and tips from others might be of benefit.
            you can also tell the waiter you're allergic to wheat and all vegetable oils and you're diabetic. Though your family will think you're weird because they know it's not true (unless it is actually true).

            I don't think they can serve you much wrong thing this way.
            well then

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            • #7
              As for fast food, I read recently that Wendy's is one of the better ones in gluten awareness, so if you have to it's a lesser of many evils. I rarely have to eat out, fortunately, because beyond the gluten I have issues with corn as well so that rules out most sauces. For salad I request olive oil and a couple of lemon wedges, make sure there are no croutons. Steak houses are usually pretty safe bets. Mexican food can also be good. My boyfriend likes to hit taco trucks so occasionally I'll get carne asada, no tortillas, and either use the meat as the wrap, if they're large pieces, or just a knife and fork. I'll eat a little bit of the refried beans and the accompanying lettuce. And yes, seafood can be a good choice.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gadsie View Post
                you can also tell the waiter you're allergic to wheat and all vegetable oils and you're diabetic. Though your family will think you're weird because they know it's not true (unless it is actually true).

                I don't think they can serve you much wrong thing this way.
                Good idea Gadsie. It would not be true for me but I have no problems with lying for a good cause and yes, my family will think I'm weird but then again, they have always thought that, primal or not.
                Randal
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                Originally posted by texas.grok
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                • #9
                  As far as I'm aware the soy oil spray craze hasn't made it over here to the UK in a big way, because there's increasing awareness now of allergies.

                  Pizza Hut: salad only, because the chicken wings are marinaded in BBQ flavour gunk.

                  Nando's: just the nuts, olives and salads, again because all the chicken is marinaded.

                  Burger King: the flame grilled chicken salad, garden salad and from the kids' menu the flame grilled chicken strips and apple fries.

                  McDonald's the grilled chicken and bacon salad, the garden salad, carrot sticks and fruit bag.

                  Cafe Rouge: Assortiment de noix, merguez, olives, crevettes de l'ail (no bread), moules marinieres (starter size no bread), salade Paysanne, bavette, pave, minute steak, steak rouge (hold the frites for all of those), salade de boeuf, bouillabaisse (no bread), moules marinieres (main size no bread), sole limande (no spuds), blanquette de legumes with/without rice, boeuf Bourguignon (no spuds), confit de canard (no spuds), coq au vin (no mash), demi poulet roti (no frites), gratin d'aubergine, pave d'agneau, saucissons de Toulouse (no mash), French beans with toasted sesame seeds, petit pois a la Francaise, green salad, mixed salad, tomato salad, assiette de fromage (no chutney)

                  Wimpy: Banger Breakfast (sausages, eggs, bacon, egg. tomato), mushrooms, steak salad, gourmet chicken salad, peas

                  Prezzo: King prawns (no ciabatta), marinated olives ? oven roasted chicken wings, antipasto platter (no ciabatta), pollo Siciliana, pollo al funghi, pollo Gorgonzola, Italian burger (no bun), mixed salad, tomato and olive salad, rocket and Grana Padano salad

                  Zizzi: antipasto Siciliano, antipasto Zizzi (no bread), gamberoni arrosto, goddess olives, black and green olives, aubergine involtini, gamberi (no dough sticks), insalata Caprese (no dough sticks), polpette al pomodoro, spiedini al pollo, steak Tagliata, beetroot and Ricotta insalate (no dough sticks), smoked trout salad (no croutons), tricolore salad (no dough sticks), aubergine Parmigiana, pollo diavola, pollo prosciutto (no spuds), pork belly, sea bass al cartoccio (no spuds), Zizzi fish stew (no ciabatta), courgette fritti, fine green beans, rocket and Grana padano salad, mixed salad, spring greens, cheeseboard

                  Pret A Manger: Chef's Italian chicken salad, chicken smoked bacon and avocado salad, no bread crayfish and avocado, pole and line caught tuna Nicoise salad, kid's fruit pot

                  and nope, I'm not translating, that's how they appear on the menu (couldn't add accents on here though)
                  Last edited by Artichoke; 07-11-2012, 04:33 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by texas.grok View Post
                    Well, you would think it was pretty basic but even things like confirming that the oil they give you with your vinager is olive oil and they steak they cook you is done in actual butter is something to think about. If you only eat out once a week or less, then it is no big thing I suppose but my family and I seem to eat out several times a week so I try to be a bit more careful.

                    And for frequent travelers, a few hints and tips from others might be of benefit.
                    we're one of those families that eats out once or twice a month. I guess we're lucky

                    basic principal of PB: as long as you're following the pb (eat meat & veggies, avoid most everything else), you're better off than 90% of the country.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JackieKessler View Post
                      Make sure to ask whether anything is added to the vegetables -- many places add a soy-based spray to make their "steamed vegetables" more colorful/shinier. Best to ask if they have a GF/soy-free menu ahead of time.

                      (It's crap like this that gets me mad. It never, in a billion years, would have occurred to me that places would add non-primal stuff to their steamed veggies. I swear, it's the hidden crap that gets you...)
                      Apparently the butter stuff they put on the veggies at Outback has gluten, but you can order them without and ask them to bring extra butter. The butter they give you with the bread and on the side is supposedly gluten-free.

                      Another thing I recently learned: While the waitstaff never mentioned plain oil & vinegar as a dressing option when they listed the dressings, they do have it on request. My waiter claimed it was olive oil, but I'm a bit skeptical. Plus it was in a clear bottle.

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                      • #12
                        I discovered that all of the oil at Carino's has soy in it and they marinate a lot of their meat in soy sauce. I was sad. You can get an unmarinated steak, but honestly, it wasnt very good. It was very dry. It never occured to me that the olive oil wasnt actually olive oil.

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                        • #13
                          In the UK if it says butter it has to be butter and if it says olive oil it has to be olive oil, or they can be prosecuted.

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