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    I have a question, I know wheat is vilified by folks and that it should be avoided by everyone, even to those who have no problem with it in the first place; but my question is - Are there any actual studies that show that wheat alone is bad to those who are healthy, lean, active, free of allergies/intolerances and with no family history on any illness (my case)? On a side note, I decided to go gluten free for 4 months, as a small experiment, and can't report on any changes (beneficial or detrimental) when wheat cessation occurred, at least that I could be aware of; but as a small experiment, my dinner today will include a serving of regular pasta to verify if any ill effects arise.

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    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread60173.html

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    • #3
      The wheat we eat isn't the wheat your grandma ate:

      http://drhyman.com/blog/2012/02/13/t...makes-you-fat/

      Many people suspect the genetic modification of wheat is responsible for the increase in celiac's disease etc.
      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

      - Ray Peat

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      • #4
        I would the modification and the fact that we are overloaded with it.
        Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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        • #5
          Good book.... Wheat Belly Blog | Lose the Wheat Lose the Weight

          I linked to his blog though as you can get much info their before even purchasing the book.

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          • #6
            GM food has to be labelled in the EU and consumers have voted with their feet so you won't find it in food or grown in the EU. However, coeliac disease, gluten intolerances and so forth are still continuing to rise here.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Artichoke View Post
              GM food has to be labelled in the EU and consumers have voted with their feet so you won't find it in food or grown in the EU. However, coeliac disease, gluten intolerances and so forth are still continuing to rise here.
              I'm not sure if the modern dwarf wheat developed through cytogenic hybridization in the 60s has to be labeled as GMO.

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              • #8
                Cordain L. (1999). Cereal grains: humanity’s double edged sword. World Review of Nutrition and Dietetics, 84: 19-73.

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                Ho R, Cordain L. Biotin insufficiency and cardiovascular disease. Nutrition Research, 2000; 20:1201-12.

                Abstract: Among the many contributors to the development of cardiovascular disease are inadequate levels of essential fatty acids. Although the prevalence of essential fatty acid deficiencies (EFAD) have rarely been regarded as problematic in developed nations, studies have shown that insufficient levels of essential fatty acids (EFA) can impact the etiology of cardiovascular disease. Numerous animal studies have shown that clinical symptoms resulting from biotin deficiency are similar to that of EFAD. Many of these studies have also shown low biotin bioavailability in cereal grains. Because the USDA Food Guide Pyramid encourages high carbohydrate intakes and lower consumptions of fat, oil, and protein, not only may EFA level be compromised, but adequate absorption of biotin could be overestimated as well. While static biotin measurements have lead many to believe that nutritional status is adequate, functional biotin status may be accommodated. Due to the coenzymatic activity of biotin in the holocarboxylase complexes, insufficient amounts of exogenous biotin could affect elongation and desaturation of EFA, contributing to endothelial cell dysfunction. The authors suggest that there may be a substantial link between cereal grain intakes and cardiovascular disease stemming from both biotin and EFA insufficiencies.

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                • #9
                  I'm not asking this to be rude, but how old are you?

                  I happily ate wheat for 45 years without noticing any bad effects. That doesn't mean there weren't any bad effects, just that I didn't notice them because my diet was generally not optimal.

                  Seriously, I'm not trying to be ageist or anything, but I do think this stuff starts to catch up with you when you get older.

                  Having said that, you could be 65 and that would throw my post completely out the window.
                  Durp.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
                    I'm not asking this to be rude, but how old are you?

                    I happily ate wheat for 45 years without noticing any bad effects. That doesn't mean there weren't any bad effects, just that I didn't notice them because my diet was generally not optimal.

                    Seriously, I'm not trying to be ageist or anything, but I do think this stuff starts to catch up with you when you get older.

                    Having said that, you could be 65 and that would throw my post completely out the window.
                    I'm 23, and I have to say, after having pasta for dinner - two hours later I started getting a bout of flatulence; now, is this because I might have some allergy or is it because I stopped eating gluten for several months - therefore lacking the enzymes to digest it (if that makes sense)?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Darz View Post
                      I'm 23, and I have to say, after having pasta for dinner - two hours later I started getting a bout of flatulence; now, is this because I might have some allergy or is it because I stopped eating gluten for several months - therefore lacking the enzymes to digest it (if that makes sense)?
                      The latter. You created a problem where there wasn't one in the first place. Stop eating meat for a few months and eat a steak...you will probably feel sick too. That doesn't mean that you have a problem digesting steak.

                      And to answer your question, there is absolutely no study that has shown that whole grains are bad for you.

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                      • #12
                        Lets say in the short span of 10,000 years some of us have developed a fully adapted enzyme to digest the proteins in wheat.

                        First of all that is a very specific enzyme that had to develop to digest a tasteless, nutritionally low grain.

                        Second again assuming that some people are full adapted that would be to a much lower quantity of the wheat proteins found in wheat around the 1970s.

                        Third I find it hard to believe any one's enzymes could keep up with very high quantity of wheat protein found in wheat today, not to mention the even higher quantity you would get from the way it is added to almost everything - call it wheat protein overload.

                        Fourth there are no studies that show eating wheat and grains is better than not eating them

                        Fifth there are now studies coming out that show how detrimental grains are to health.

                        Either way I have no reason to believe I am celiac or wheat sensitive (OH is) but the extra energy and well being I got from eating only a little to completely cutting it is amazing. There is no way I will go back to a SAD diet.
                        Last edited by Dirlot; 07-10-2012, 04:33 PM.
                        Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
                        PS
                        Don't forget to play!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Darz View Post
                          I'm 23, and I have to say, after having pasta for dinner - two hours later I started getting a bout of flatulence; now, is this because I might have some allergy or is it because I stopped eating gluten for several months - therefore lacking the enzymes to digest it (if that makes sense)?
                          Smartest move you can make on this forum is to put jimhenson on ignore.

                          Anyway, you're used to having a certain crap level in your body and now that you don't, your body actually has the energy and tools to recognize it and fight it. For some people, it stays like that as long as they continue to avoid that particular toxin. Others find the reaction lessons as time goes on.
                          Durp.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
                            Smartest move you can make on this forum is to put jimhenson on ignore.

                            Anyway, you're used to having a certain crap level in your body and now that you don't, your body actually has the energy and tools to recognize it and fight it. For some people, it stays like that as long as they continue to avoid that particular toxin. Others find the reaction lessons as time goes on.
                            +1
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
                              Smartest move you can make on this forum is to put jimhenson on ignore.

                              .
                              But if you do that you will miss such gems as grains are delicious and my favourite I am not going to post any studies to prove grains are better than not eating grains but I am going to stomp my feet until you believe they are good for you.
                              Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
                              PS
                              Don't forget to play!

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