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  • which butter is best?

    I was tempted to title this post: The best is the enemy of the good?

    Here are my good choices:
    *roll butter--cultured butter from Amish country
    *raw milk butter from a local dairy, 100% Jersey cows that graze but also get hay and grain
    *Kerrygold butter
    *Organic Valley pasture butter (cultured)

    Are Kerrygold and Organic Valley pasture actually from cows that eat only grass, or does everyone supplement with some grain to support milk production?
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    age 56, type 2 diabetes, swimmer
    low carb since 2006 thanks to Jenny, primal since Jan. 2012

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    Kerrygold is from grass fed cows and a lot of people on here recommend it. My personal favorite (also grass fed) is called Smjor from Iceland, but Whole Foods Market is the only retailer that sells it in the states. I like it because it has a lower water content than other butters so you're getting more what you pay for. Also it crisps things better (salmon skin anyone?), and it can take a higher heat than other butters without scorching.

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    • #3
      Kerrygold is the best source I can find in my area and it's a good price at Trader Joe's... love it.

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      • #4
        I really like the Amish made butter I can *sometimes* get at my local farmer's market.

        I've used Kerrygold and Organic Valley before but don't really care for either.

        I don't use butter for cooking very often. I prefer to use coconut oil or bacon grease to cook and just use the butter on my steak or mixed into a helping of scrambled eggs.

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        • #5
          Kerrygold is the one that I prefer and my mind is used to it. So no looking for other ones.

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          • #6
            But wouldn't local raw milk butter be better than Kerrygold? Or is Kerrygold 100% grass fed?
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            age 56, type 2 diabetes, swimmer
            low carb since 2006 thanks to Jenny, primal since Jan. 2012

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            • #7
              What's wrong with Organic Valley "summer" butter?

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              • #8
                I'd be tempted to go with the local butter. The grains will be a small proportion of the cows' diet if they're also being supplemented with hay (which is just grass) and probably only in the winter. Plus, A2 casein.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by orielwen View Post
                  The grains will be a small proportion of the cows' diet if they're also being supplemented with hay
                  This is certainly possible but not necessarily true. You'd need to talk to the farmer and find out what his practices are. Many farms supplement grazing with grain every day, not just in the winter. Grass can be scarce in the dry summers too. This is particularly true of dairy cattle, where they really want a certain level of consistency as to what goes into the milk so it's not hugely different from month to month.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by orielwen View Post
                    I'd be tempted to go with the local butter. The grains will be a small proportion of the cows' diet if they're also being supplemented with hay (which is just grass) and probably only in the winter. Plus, A2 casein.
                    It is a small operation (Home) so I suspect the cows are on pasture all day and get fed some grain while milking to keep production up, which might be necessary now as hot and dry as it is here. A2 casein is a protein--is it found in significant amounts in butter? I use their milk or raw goats milk for my kefir.
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                    age 56, type 2 diabetes, swimmer
                    low carb since 2006 thanks to Jenny, primal since Jan. 2012

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                    • #11
                      You know what kind of butter is the worst in the world? Anything Canadian. Holy crap. I was eating Kerrygold for a year in the states and came back to the bland, while chunks from sick dairy cows and am loath to eat it.
                      You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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                      • #12
                        Kerrygold is a brand owned by the Irish Dairy Board, which markets butter for Irish farmers. It's no better than any other branded butter.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Artichoke View Post
                          Kerrygold is a brand owned by the Irish Dairy Board, which markets butter for Irish farmers. It's no better than any other branded butter.
                          Yeah because all brands have the same standards. Fact is Kerrygold does use milk from grassfed cows. Not all brands do. Not all brands aspire to the same quality or achieve the same flavor.

                          Just be sure you're getting the Kerrygold original - they've recently snuck in a few tweaks here and there that might be a wee bit less than primal-perfect. This from an article last fall.

                          Smjor.

                          From Iceland.

                          Sustainable.

                          Clean.

                          Delicious.

                          Highest fat content I've ever found in butter.

                          Grass fed/finished.

                          Raw or for cooking I've never found a butter I like better. The only downside is that I'm fairly sure WFM is till the only retailer in the states allowed to carry it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by brahnamin View Post
                            Yeah because all brands have the same standards. Fact is Kerrygold does use milk from grassfed cows. Not all brands do. Not all brands aspire to the same quality or achieve the same flavor.

                            Just be sure you're getting the Kerrygold original - they've recently snuck in a few tweaks here and there that might be a wee bit less than primal-perfect. This from an article last fall.
                            Kerrygold is just another brand in the UK and isn't all singing all dancing manna from Heaven because we don't have CAFOs in the EU and farmers don't feed growth hormones. Cows live outside most of the year and eat mostly grass as standard.

                            The only reason that farmers are feeding GM feed to cattle is because the Americans controlling most of the soya and maize (corn) which go into it, grow GM crops. European maize is non GM because the EU doesn't allow it to be grown. Consumers overwhelmingly don't want to eat GM food.

                            However under EU regulations milk, butter, cream or yogurt from animals fed with GM food do not need to be labelled as such. Only organic food has to be GM free AND not come from animals fed GM feed.

                            ANY butter from ANY European Union-member country will be mostly grass -fed but unless it is organic, it MAY come from animals which have been fed GM feed as supplements or over the winter.

                            Re: not all brands have the same standards.. standards aren't left up to brands in the EU, there are dairy industry European standards which dairy farmers and products must meet.

                            Perceptions of brands are subjective.. BMW might make you think Lacoste-wearing Preppy at the country club, it makes me think flashy South London drug dealer blingmobile.

                            Kerrygold might seem the bees knees to you, but if I was wanting premium butter I'd buy French butter from Normandy eg Bridel or Lescure. I used to buy President (there's an acute accent on the first e) from Normandy but the organic stuff is 2.99 GBP for 250g now when I can find it and I've switched to supermarket own brand organic at 1.49 GBP.
                            Last edited by Artichoke; 07-09-2012, 04:40 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Well that clarifies things a bit, but sadly the US is frankenfood friendly, so making a blanket statement about all branding being the same without noting that that blanket only covers EU products can really be misleading, and I wouldn't want someone who doesn't know any better to look at your prior assertion about all branding being equal and take it to mean that Land O'Lakes is just as good as Kerrygold (or other comparable EU butter) if they really want to find a clean primal friendly butter.

                              Kerrygold isn't even close to my personal recommendation (Icelandic Smjor is far superior IMO) but I frequently recommend Kerrygold (and I think many others here do as well) because I know no matter where the person lives - from New York City to Bumblebramble Alabama - they will be able to actually find Kerrygold at their local Kroger or Piggly Wiggly. It's grass fed butter and it's available damned near anywhere you go in the states, which just makes it a safe recommendation.

                              And it's good quality with a decent flavor.
                              Last edited by brahnamin; 07-09-2012, 05:40 AM.

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