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    I'm struggling a little with my 20%. I pretty much try to stay 100% primal. But sometimes I think it's ok to have something "bad". But afterwards I usually end up stressing about it. I don't really have a clue what bad foods do to you. Is most harm done by gaining a lot of fat by non primal foods? Or is it mostly bad because it is damaging your body?
    Weird questions maybe, but I'm trying to have a little peace with my 20% and decide for myself how big etc I want it to be. Instead of asking some kind of permission on this forum like "can I eat this or that?"
    well then

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    For me, and this is just me: I've been able to gain control over what I eat and how much. That has translated into incredible control over my body and my life. If I were to eat grain or sugar I would not be able to stop where I want to. I am still losing weight so I don't want to screw around with success. Even when I stall out I know that I can walk away from bad foods and I don't feel hung over, swollen, achy, self loathing... and that keeps me going until the weight starts coming off again. So I am at 100%- I have to be. It's not worth it to me to go 80/20. My definition of 100% is probably different from some people- although I now eat only grass fed beef, I have no clue where my eggs come from. I eat yogurt every day. I will have a diet coke every two days or so. Those are my only departures! So is that 98%?

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    • #3
      Why do I have a feeling of deja vu?
      Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
      PS
      Don't forget to play!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Gadsie View Post
        I'm struggling a little with my 20%. I pretty much try to stay 100% primal. But sometimes I think it's ok to have something "bad". But afterwards I usually end up stressing about it. I don't really have a clue what bad foods do to you. Is most harm done by gaining a lot of fat by non primal foods? Or is it mostly bad because it is damaging your body?
        Weird questions maybe, but I'm trying to have a little peace with my 20% and decide for myself how big etc I want it to be. Instead of asking some kind of permission on this forum like "can I eat this or that?"
        Yeah, Gadsie. Work on this part.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dirlot View Post
          Why do I have a feeling of deja vu?
          heehee

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          • #6
            I think for you personally, you should divide up what is considered "bad" and "good" by a different dividing line than many of us. For you, bad should be (like it should be for everybody):


            But for you, good food should include:


            Or whatever the Dutch equivalents are. And you should not worry yourself over how often you include such things. It's not going to be the only stuff you eat. Your parents will see to that.
            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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            • #7
              It'r pretty easy for me. If it gives me boils, gas, bloating and pain - then I KNOW it's bad. If science tells us it's not food (refined oils, synthetic anything) then I avoid it. If it's not something I'd feed to my own baby, I shouldn't eat it. Anything GMO like ALL American corn, wheat and soy - is instantly off the table.

              That said, at least once every two weeks I eat something deplorable. Sometimes I suffer for it, sometimes I don't. But every time I eat vegetable oil or trans fat, I KNOW I just mummified my arteries a little, and they're probably permanently hardened a little more every time. Debatable? Yeah. Good way to stay away from poison? Guaranteed.
              Crohn's, doing SCD

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              • #8
                Stressing about it is what makes it bad. You don't eat it every day.
                You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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                • #9
                  Stressing about it is what makes it bad. You don't eat it every day
                  Yes, that too! Eat it and move on. Stress is worse than bad food in many ways.
                  Crohn's, doing SCD

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                    I think for you personally, you should divide up what is considered "bad" and "good" by a different dividing line than many of us. For you, bad should be (like it should be for everybody):


                    But for you, good food should include:


                    Or whatever the Dutch equivalents are. And you should not worry yourself over how often you include such things. It's not going to be the only stuff you eat. Your parents will see to that.
                    This ^
                    Durp.

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                    • #11
                      I ate tuna casserole tonight. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to die. But I swear I can feel my ankles swelling as I type this.

                      Eat real food at home, when you're cooking for yourself. Relax about your food choices when you're eating with others.
                      Sandra
                      *My obligatory intro

                      There are no cheat days. There are days when you eat primal and days you don't. As soon as you label a day a cheat day, you're on a diet. Don't be on a diet. ~~ Fernaldo

                      DAINTY CAN KISS MY PRIMAL BACKSIDE. ~~ Crabcakes

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sandra in BC View Post
                        I ate tuna casserole tonight. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to die. But I swear I can feel my ankles swelling as I type this.
                        I hear ya. I went to my non-Primal friend's house for 4th of July yesterday and ate everything I wasn't supposed to - mac and cheese, macaroni salad, cookies - so today is super humid (of course) and my sweat just smells funny. Scary.
                        Last edited by RitaRose; 07-05-2012, 06:46 PM.
                        Durp.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
                          It'r pretty easy for me. If it gives me boils, gas, bloating and pain - then I KNOW it's bad. If science tells us it's not food (refined oils, synthetic anything) then I avoid it. If it's not something I'd feed to my own baby, I shouldn't eat it. Anything GMO like ALL American corn, wheat and soy - is instantly off the table.

                          That said, at least once every two weeks I eat something deplorable. Sometimes I suffer for it, sometimes I don't. But every time I eat vegetable oil or trans fat, I KNOW I just mummified my arteries a little, and they're probably permanently hardened a little more every time. Debatable? Yeah. Good way to stay away from poison? Guaranteed.
                          Raw broccoli gives me gas. No good eh?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gadsie View Post
                            I don't really have a clue what bad foods do to you. Is most harm done by gaining a lot of fat by non primal foods? Or is it mostly bad because it is damaging your body?
                            You may want to revisit the reasons you decided to start eating primally. Did you do research to begin with? When I began reading into this type of diet, for me it was more about what foods can do to harm me rather than what other foods can do to help/heal me [I already knew what those were for the most part]. I was so put off by the way certain foods react within my body to produce undesirable results, that it was more about avoiding those foods.
                            So, I guess I'm just suggesting you do a little reading about what these "non-primal foods" can do to you in the short-term and in the long-run in terms of fitness and also disease prevention. My $0.02
                            it does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live

                            at just the right time, we will reap a harvest of blessing if we don't give up

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                              I think for you personally, you should divide up what is considered "bad" and "good" by a different dividing line than many of us. For you, bad should be (like it should be for everybody):


                              But for you, good food should include:


                              Or whatever the Dutch equivalents are. And you should not worry yourself over how often you include such things. It's not going to be the only stuff you eat. Your parents will see to that.
                              My best friend asked me to come eat pizza tonight. Like we always used to a long time ago. But if I'm going to feel bad about it afterwards I might as well not go..
                              It's a tough decision, I know I have all healthy food at home and I can just choose to eat that. But I can also choose to eat a restaurant pizza (most likely not just wheat , but most likely veg oils as well)

                              If I were to ask "is it ok to eat it" I will get moxed answers. Some will say, sure it's only once in a while. Others will say, "go and eat with your friend and pick something healthy!"
                              Maybe I wouldn't mind eating pizza if I knew that I could eat healthy the rest of the time. But that isn't the case. I'm going to italy 2 weeks this summer. We'll be eating out for breakfast lunch and dinner. That's 14x3=42 crap meals in a row.
                              I don't know if I will physically bad after eating pizza because I have hardly eaten ANY wheat in the past half year I'm primal. But I think I'll feel fine.

                              A part of me wants to go, but also sort of scared. I don't know exactly what I'm scared of
                              Last edited by Gadsie; 07-06-2012, 07:22 AM.
                              well then

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