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  • #31
    I'm especially lucky in that the Bloodmobile comes to my office once every 8-12 weeks. So, I get to give blood over lunch. It's kind of a badge of honor to wear those lovely colored bandages around the office afterward.
    Christine
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    • #32
      "Persons who have spent long periods of time in countries where "mad cow disease" is found are not eligible to donate"

      Yep I’m one of the ones banned for life - for spending several years (cumulatively) in the UK/EU.
      04/23/2012 Max Weight : 448 lbs
      01/01/2014 Initial Weight : 428 lbs
      06/23/2015 Current weight : 288 lbs
      12/31/2015 Goal weight : 208 lbs

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      • #33
        Our office park is doing one in a week or two and I'm SO looking forward to it. I haven't been able to get out to the donation center and make an appointment myself. There's no excuse for me to not go to this one. Can't wait!

        Donating blood is SO very important. Yes they can be restrictive in their selection - that's a whole separate issue. The important part is that those who CAN donate DO.
        carl's cave

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Andtckrtoo View Post
          I'm especially lucky in that the Bloodmobile comes to my office once every 8-12 weeks. So, I get to give blood over lunch. It's kind of a badge of honor to wear those lovely colored bandages around the office afterward.
          I'm jealous! They do one every once in a while at my work, but always during hours so that no one out in the field can donate.

          To be honest, that's when they do the holiday party stuff too. Everything centers around office staff, but I couldn't care less about the parties. I'd just love to able to donate blood without driving halfway across the county.
          Durp.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
            Lifeshare still won't take me. Last time I was in Germany it was 8 straight years, and evidently I should just give it up. Even tho I have otherwise zero other disqualifications, and have been back for double-digit years now. Frustrating.
            You know - I just thought of something... If I cannot donate blood in the US because I lived in Germany too long (so say the American banks), then where is GERMANY getting ITS blood??
            I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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            • #36
              ^^ Yep, I know. Its perfectly fine in the EU to donate blood, if you lived in the EU for over 24 years prior LOL.

              There are more reported Mad cow disease cases in Canada/US than in the Netherlands & Belgium together (and the Belgium/Dutch cases originated from UK citizens). I think they need to revise that rule in the US!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by carlh View Post
                Donating blood is SO very important. Yes they can be restrictive in their selection - that's a whole separate issue. The important part is that those who CAN donate DO.
                This^^^. I think there are a lot of people who are just freaked out by needles and the sight of blood. I have heard several people who work at the blood bank say that, nine times out of ten, when they have a donor who passes out or pukes, it's a guy. Often big strong healthy guys. That is a mental block for a lot of people.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                  This^^^. I think there are a lot of people who are just freaked out by needles and the sight of blood. I have heard several people who work at the blood bank say that, nine times out of ten, when they have a donor who passes out or pukes, it's a guy. Often big strong healthy guys. That is a mental block for a lot of people.
                  I had a 250 lb body builder pass out when I gave him an immunization shot, little tiny needle.
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                  • #39
                    I have a friend who was in the Army - he worked in the lab at a big Army hospital and did a lot of blood draws. He specifically had to learn how to brace himself so he and Big Hulking Guy wouldn't both hit the floor when BHG passed out, it happened that often. But then again, this hospital got a lot of business, so I am not implying anything.
                    I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                    • #40
                      And the real reason why the blood supply is low is not the draconian prohibitions of the blood bank, it is because there are many people who would be perfectly eligible to donate but are too lazy and/or don't give a damn about their fellow human beings enough to do it.
                      Canada had 900,000 donations last year, approximately an additional 15% were turned away. The demand for blood increases approximately 2% a year. Any shortage could be corrected by changing their rules. They could take blood and TEST for problems but it's cheaper just to insult your lifestyle or kick you out of the chair because you could be carrying mad cow, ridiculous.

                      BTW, I can't donate because my previous hep vaccinations flag the system (because they use cheap screening.) They put positives through a more expensive screen after so they can inform you if you have a debilitating illness but even when this test comes back negative, it doesn't matter. Once you're flagged on the first test, you're banned from ever donating...unless your "immunity" wears off.

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                      • #41
                        And it's easier just to be mad at the blood banks than to, say, volunteer a few hours a week there if you can't donate.

                        I don't know how Canada's rules differ from the US but I have had a Hep vaccine and have no problem donating.

                        The reason they pre-screen is not to "insult your lifestyle". They have to move the blood as quickly as possible from donor to recipient. They don't have time or resources for all the tests they would like to do. They are doing the best they can with what they have.

                        I don't understand why it seems like people get offended on such a personal level. The blood banks are trying to keep the blood supply safe. Perhaps erring a bit on the side of caution, but they are not the bad guys here.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Wanderlust View Post
                          yeah I think after 6 months or something you're "OK" again.

                          However if you lived in Europe, travel to third world countries, or otherwise have a damned life you can't give blood.
                          I've been traveling to 3rd world countries, regularly for business, since the 1980s & have never been turned down for donating my blood. They love me as I have a very rare AB- blood type & I bleed well & fill up the bags quickly. I like to donate, it's
                          good for me & good for those on the receiving end for both the plasma & blood.
                          "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
                          "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
                          "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                            I don't understand why it seems like people get offended on such a personal level.
                            I know that I really was offended when it happened to me. I have lived pretty much a sqeaky-clean life, except for living in another first-world country. So I decide to brave the needle and give, oh, say, my very BLOOD, and then get told I am not good enough. I mean, how much more visceral can it get?

                            I do truly understand you, and the blood banks, so I have no true argument with them. I, too, want to know that any blood my family would possibly receive is clean to the best of current ability. I just needed to respond to that sentence.
                            I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                            • #44
                              It's not a rule about the vaccine, it's about titres and those giving a false positive to the screening process.

                              They've done such a wonderful job of keeping it safe...

                              And people get offended on a personal level because they're DISCRIMINATING, their stance is no different then telling people they can't donate because they're black. They're stereotyping their potential clients and eliminating them based on that.

                              Anyways, I'm not mad at them. I think they're doing a poor job for what they have available to them. I would much rather a blood product that had been tested than one where people may or may not have truthfully answered a survey.

                              ETA, I'm AB- and bleed like a stuck pig, it's really crappy that they have such poor testing processes because I would be giving on a regular basis.
                              Last edited by bionicsamm; 07-05-2012, 05:07 AM.

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                              • #45
                                I think the concerns about where you have lived are real.

                                I do agree that the policy against gay men and women who have ever slept with a bi guy is something that needs revising. I think that policy is a relic of the 1980's when gay people were dropping dead left and right and they really didn't have a good understanding of the situation. This perhaps needs an update.

                                All blood is screened for HIV, Hep A-Z, before it gets to the hospitals.
                                I think the problem about trying to screen for malaria and mad cow is that the tests take longer. This is what I was told by a Blood Bank employee.

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