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    Hi all,

    My wife and I started primal 5 days ago and have finished about 1/3 - 1/2 of the book so far. Even though we haven't finished the book, we decided to start eating primal. Pretty much eating just meat, veggies, and fruit as recommended in the book...and a 1/2 sweet potato one day and a little brown rice another day. Coffee in the AM with stevia and tea at night with a small bit of raw honey. Using rice bread and rice crackers sparingly.

    We both are having a lot of trouble with general malaise, muscle/joint pain, dizzy, headache, fatigue, sleeplessness...and last night I was a feverish shivering all night. What is funny is that my fever broke at 4 AM in about 30 min when I got up and had a bowl of puffed rice and almond milk.

    We understand there is an adjustment period, but are these harsh symptoms normal? If so, when will they stop?!? We havenít even started the workout routines yet because we feel so bad.

    On a positive note I have lost 4 lbs in 5 days without working out yet, my stomach feels MUCH better (I felt bloated a lot of the time), and my wife has seen some weight loss as well.

    Thank you for your help and hopefully this adjustment period will be over soon so we can enjoy being part of the community.

    Mark and Carrie

  • #2
    Carb flu. You will get over it shortly. We all got it, length depends on the person....
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    • #3
      Sounds like an actual virus to me. Keep following the healthy eating plan and rest.

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      • #4
        Thanks for your help. I appreciate it. I looked up Carb Flu...yeah, I think you are right. Never heard of that before.

        Fever didn't start until last night. Might be both Carb Flu and virus??? My wife didn't get the fever. I didn't see that fever was one of the Carb Flu symptoms. Do you think it might be wise for me to up my carbs (healthy cabs...brown rice, sweet potatoes...) for the next day or so until the fever is gone? Or stick with the plan described in the book?

        Thanks

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        • #5
          It could be a virus as well, but you are definitely suffering from carb flu. I would not up your carbs. It might be unpleasant but you will get through it. Only takes most folks 1-2 weeks tops to work through and get your body back on the road to burning fat vice hungering for carbs.

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          • #6
            Ditto on the carb flu. I felt really sick when I went through that. Almost passed out one day. But then suddenly on about day 13, I felt better than I had in years. Everybody is a bit different, but those kinds of symptoms are common.

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            • #7
              Were you eating lots and lots of carbs previously? If you were then maybe the sudden difference in intake level is what's causing it, but I wonder if there's something else. For example, you could be having thyroid issues due to not enough or too much iodine. Are you supplementing with anything?
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              • #8
                I was very dizzy yesterday and spent most of the day sleeping... Yes I would say that I was eating a lot of carbs, whole grains mostly. I don't take any supplements other than a protein shake and a multivitamin every once in a while. I have never had thyroid issues before. Still not feeling 100% (comes and goes), but I am feeling better. It is good to hear that this is temporary. Thanks

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                • #9
                  Getting past the carb flu would be much easier if you weren't starting your day off with puffed rice! You might as well be eating table sugar as that is how it is seen by your body. Start your day with high protein/fat. Eggs and meat. Get away from the idea of things having to be sweet also. I don't consume any sugary products at all. I do however have some grains on occasion with little problem. That said, the amount that I have is beyond miniscule in comparison to what the average person does. Most consume more in one day than I would in a couple weeks.

                  Stick to veggies and some fruit for your carbs until you really start feeling much better. Stay away from anything processed.

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                  • #10
                    I am on day 5 and have had similar symptoms. No big surprise as I was previously taking in massive amounts of Carbs with high intense workouts. A complete shock to the body for sure. The first few days I had the dizziness, flu like symptoms, joint pain, muscle soreness and complete fatigue.

                    On day 2 I decided to address the issues by taking in an a few more high sugar fruits (Apples, Bananas, raisins, etc). It really helped. The past three days I have been slowly reducing the amount of those high sugar fruits and the flu symptoms, overall fatigue, and dizziness have subsided. Also, I have really forced the water issue...

                    I am still working out pretty hard and I wake up pretty fatigued and am pretty sore throughout the day. I am not surprised.

                    Good news, I too feel much better! My "full" feeling is way different. I think alone giving up the massive amounts of diet coke, cottage cheese and sugar additives have made things a lot better. I am looking forward to seeing how I feel in two weeks.
                    Last edited by TTBlue21; 06-29-2012, 06:59 AM.

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                    • #11
                      You don't have to avoid carbs. Just make them primal. You can cut them out over a longer time, if you wish, and avoid the head-on carb flu. And yes, drop the puffed rice and make that an omelett.

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                      • #12
                        Ok, the puffed rice is gone. I guess in my mind I thought they were ok because they were gluten free and sugar free. We purchased some bread and crackers made with rice flower as well. Also bought some brown rice flour and almond flour I was going to try to use for baking. Are they not good? Organic, gluten free, no preservatives...all that. I can keep the brown/wild rice and sweet potatoes a few times a week, right?

                        I am feeling a lot better today as the day is progressing, but I know my caloric intake is very low these past 2 days just because of not feeling hungry/a little nauseated. Yesterday I finished Ĺ a rotisserie chicken, a cup of chicken broth, and a buch of veggies. Today I have only had a Plum and a hardboiled egg for breakfast and an apple and a cheese stick for lunch, but I feel satisfied. Not hungry…and not nauseated anymore. Kind of feel I could start working out today.

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                        • #13
                          I am very new to this but you might want to try and give up cheese. I have read many people have some dairy, but I have noticed no full/bloated feeling when I dropped dairy all together.

                          Also, it sounds like you aren't eating enough though. I think the experienced people on here would suggest a larger lunch with more substance: meat, fish, etc.

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                          • #14
                            I would take it easy with working out until you feel 100%, and possibly until you get a consisent eating plan together. It took me about a month to figure out my menu planning and shopping.

                            Primal diet is GRAIN-free, not gluten-free. Gluten-free is just the latest fashion in Conventional Wisdom Standard American Diet (CW SAD). Primals dump grains entirely, so you will be automatically gluten free. If you're trying to lose weight, rice has to go. Others will advise you against almond flour, and in fact Primals have barely any reason to bake anything at all. Sweet potatoes are good, but in moderation, sorry.

                            Your menu for today -- what little there was -- was a little fruit-heavy, but I guess you knew that. Keep at it, it does take a while to get used to it. Eat more meat when you feel better.

                            For me, it was a major mental adjustment to realize that about 80% of a regular grocery store is off-limits. I now shop at the natural foods store and the farmer's market, and pick berries and vegetables from the local farms. When I go into a CW SAD grocery store these days, I am STUNNED at the amount of fakey stuff jumping at me from the shelves. Artificial coloring, unnaturally shaped synth food, convenience packaging, and single-serve packets, not to mention being attacked by mini video screens and coupon-spitting machines when I walk by. It's like shopping in a Willy Wonka cartoon. And everyone looks like Augustus Gloop.
                            5'0" female, 45 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Gained back to 115(!) on SAD chocolate, potato chips, and stress. Currently 111.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by oxide View Post
                              And everyone looks like Augustus Gloop.
                              MAJOR lol! Its so true though, sadly. You don't realise how much "filler" is in everything, and how much deceptive marketing really works until your eyes are truly opened.
                              it does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live

                              at just the right time, we will reap a harvest of blessing if we don't give up

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