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    I hate calorie counting UGH. But I think I'll never be able to stay in the 50-100 carb range and I really want to lose some poundage. I am an ex-Weight Watcher so it's all about tracking for me, and that's always worked for me in general, as I have to be held accountable for what I eat/drink. So I think I'll track for a couple weeks hardcore, and see what happens.

    Here's my counts:

    50-100g carbs a day
    81g protein a day (Lean mass is 116#)

    Do I need to track fat as well? I really don't want to! Anyone use a tracker they would like to suggest? MyFitnessPal is the best thing out there but you can't set it to *just* count carbs/protein. Using now in the interim.

    Thanks peeps!
    "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." --Hypatia

  • #2
    I like LiveStrong.com. Just don't read the articles because they're a bunch of CW tripe. They have a really great iPhone app and a pretty big database, so it makes tracking a lot easier.

    I would track carbs, protein and fat. There's no reason to ignore it when the info is there already. What I usually go by is the percentage of fat, protein and carbs. I shoot for low(ish) carbs, moderate protein and higher fat.

    In the end, calories DO seem to matter somewhat, but eating this way tends to make it easier to take in a reasonable amount, along with the bigger benefit of making your body healthier in general.
    Durp.

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    • #3
      You don't need to track anything.

      Eat mostly meat, eggs, fat and colorful raw & cooked veggies. Let these be the center of your food universe, and prepare them in ways that are tasty and satisfying.

      Enjoy a little bit of nuts, fruit and full-fat dairy (if you tolerate it).

      Limit starchy veggies if you feel the need (sweet potatoes, potatoes, root veggies) but don't rule them out completely because they are nutritious.

      Eliminate grains, corn, soy and seed oils in every form, including processed/prepared foods made from them.

      Primal is not a diet. Stop thinking of it like a diet. Focus on what you CAN enjoy, and enjoy lots of it!! Get used to this way of eating before you start tweaking and tracking.
      Sandra
      *My obligatory intro

      There are no cheat days. There are days when you eat primal and days you don't. As soon as you label a day a cheat day, you're on a diet. Don't be on a diet. ~~ Fernaldo

      DAINTY CAN KISS MY PRIMAL BACKSIDE. ~~ Crabcakes

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      • #4
        Sort of.

        Some people find they do need to track, at least in the beginning, because they don't really have a good idea anymore of what an appropriate sized serving of food is. Tracking for a short time can help some realize exactly how much they're eating, what they're really eating and how that affects their health.

        I don't think it's appropriate for the long term, though. I would think a few weeks or so would get everything dialed in, and may be of some help when things sometimes don't seem to be going well.
        Durp.

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        • #5
          I agree Sandra, and this is a lifestyle change for me, for sure. But I am also trying to loose weight. I am 5'5" and 220lbs. It's a lot on my body as I have a small frame. I lost 75lbs with Weight Watchers and this was a lifestyle change for me as well, probably not the right one, however. It's my #1 priority right now.

          You don't see a benefit in tracking to keep accountability? The back story is I've been diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Looking into ways to treat it naturally, or with diet, I came upon an anti-inflammatory diet, which essentially is close to paleo. I like primal better however, because it aligns with how I want to live my life.

          I've been eating this way more or less now for 2 months and have seen some visible differences but nothing much, I weigh the same and have the same body measurements. I worry that I am going overboard on fruit or nuts. Or maybe not eating enough veg. But how would I ever know if I am not tracking/journaling? I feel like there needs to be some tweaks here and there to get things in the "sweet spot" of weight loss, as Mark suggests.

          I'll look into LiveStrong. Thanks Rita!
          "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." --Hypatia

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TillyMonstar View Post
            I agree Sandra, and this is a lifestyle change for me, for sure. But I am also trying to loose weight. I am 5'5" and 220lbs. It's a lot on my body as I have a small frame. I lost 75lbs with Weight Watchers and this was a lifestyle change for me as well, probably not the right one, however. It's my #1 priority right now.
            As long as you're not neglecting overall health for the sake of the scale. Primal is NOT a diet. Its a lifestyle that promotes optimal health -- weight loss being one of the benefits of optimal health. If you're only looking at primal from a weight loss perspective, and not seeing the other benefits, you'll just think "its not working".


            You don't see a benefit in tracking to keep accountability?
            Not really. My experience has been that as long as I put priority on a) the quality of food I'm eating, and b) listening to my body's hunger cues, I am gradually losing the fat. When I am less diligent, I feel the negative results and it prompts me to get back on track. Then again, fat loss is not the #1 priority consuming my life right now. (I have 3 seasons of Mad Men to catch up on!!)

            I have done WW in the past, and lost lots of weight doing it, but it is all-consuming. The tracking and counting is such a drag. I found the program was more about ways to feel like you're cheating and still winning, than it was about an overall healthy lifestyle. When I found PB I weighed more than I ever did the 2x I went to WW. So no, I don't think tracking is the solution for me.

            The back story is I've been diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Looking into ways to treat it naturally, or with diet, I came upon an anti-inflammatory diet, which essentially is close to paleo. I like primal better however, because it aligns with how I want to live my life.
            If you have a broken system, you need to eat for health first, weight loss second. If your only focus is weight loss, you may be omitting nutrients that your body needs in order to heal.


            I've been eating this way more or less now for 2 months and have seen some visible differences but nothing much, I weigh the same and have the same body measurements.
            It took me at least 6 weeks to see a visible change. Even at that, it has still been very gradual. I figure the weight didn't go on overnight and its not going to come off instantly either. I DONT WEIGH MYSELF. Just like tracking, I don't think the scale is a good indicator of progress. What I learned in my WW days was that the scale movement I was expecting at weigh-in never showed up until the following week.

            I worry that I am going overboard on fruit or nuts. Or maybe not eating enough veg. But how would I ever know if I am not tracking/journaling? I feel like there needs to be some tweaks here and there to get things in the "sweet spot" of weight loss, as Mark suggests.
            Maybe you are, maybe you're not. Listen to your body. If you're going to keep a journal, log everything you eat and how your body responds. Look for what makes you feel good, and what doesn't. Its about more than macros.
            Sandra
            *My obligatory intro

            There are no cheat days. There are days when you eat primal and days you don't. As soon as you label a day a cheat day, you're on a diet. Don't be on a diet. ~~ Fernaldo

            DAINTY CAN KISS MY PRIMAL BACKSIDE. ~~ Crabcakes

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            • #7
              If you must track, then cronometer.com is your friend.
              "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TillyMonstar View Post
                I hate calorie counting UGH. But I think I'll never be able to stay in the 50-100 carb range and I really want to lose some poundage. I am an ex-Weight Watcher so it's all about tracking for me, and that's always worked for me in general, as I have to be held accountable for what I eat/drink. So I think I'll track for a couple weeks hardcore, and see what happens.

                Here's my counts:

                50-100g carbs a day
                81g protein a day (Lean mass is 116#)

                Do I need to track fat as well? I really don't want to! Anyone use a tracker they would like to suggest? MyFitnessPal is the best thing out there but you can't set it to *just* count carbs/protein. Using now in the interim.

                Thanks peeps!
                You can get MyFitnessPal to track/count just carbs and protein -go to the Food tab, hit the settings button in the section under the tab and then click on the drop down arrow where fat is listed in the Nutrients Tracked section and choose none as the option for that box. Click the save changes button at the bottom of the page. Your food tab should now just be tracking carbs and protein in things .

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                • #9
                  My tip - see what works for people in your country. Who would have thought foods are that different but there some apps people love in the US don't even list some foods I eat regularly. If you are in the US, that won't be a problem

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                  • #10
                    I really think the to track or not to track question is a personal choice, not a matter of Primal doctrine.

                    If tracking works for you then, by all means, track. It worked for me and now I don't have to track anymore.

                    My favorite of all the tracking programs out there is SparkPeople.

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                    • #11
                      i'm with paleobird. if tracking helps you, then by all means do it. i am dealing with hormonal health problems right now so have restarted tracking. i am using cronometer and LOVE it. i especially enjoy how it breaks down all the micros, which is one of the ways i am hoping to get a better handle on my health. it's helping me choose duck eggs over chicken eggs, for example. i spend less than 5 minutes a day entering my foods, but enjoy geeking out over the data it produces.

                      as far as listening to one's body, mine used to tell me to eat entire sleeves of whole grain crackers or 3-4 whole wheat pitas with soy cheese at a sitting. until your body is healthy and knows what it's talking about, it may not be asking for the right things.

                      we are not all motivated in the same way, so find what works for you.
                      As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                      Ernest Hemingway

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                      • #12
                        Thank you so much noodletoy! I just got on here again to see if anyone had further suggestions and decided to use cronometer. What an awesome app! I'm using it now, actually. I find that if I don't keep track, I'll fail or just not change at all. I'm doing a paleo challenge starting today and am participating in a weight loss challenge thread as well as posting a log on Whole9.com.

                        If this is not being "held accountable" I don't know what is. I agree, listening to my body isn't working. I could just eat and eat. I especially LOVE fruit. Hormonal issues really don't make it easy OMG.

                        Thanks again everyone!
                        "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." --Hypatia

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                        • #13
                          I have the mother of all excel spreadsheets.

                          I make them to track everything at work, so it's natural I would track my personal life too. I've got a tab for exercise, a tab for weights and measurements and a tab for food. I actually track calories, carbs, fat and protein in everything that goes in my mouth. I'm eating less than 20g net carbs a day, so there's a pretty small margin of error to work with if I try to estimate.

                          I don't think this would work well for someone who may have a tendency to get neurotic about things though.

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