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  • Is coconut oil counter-productive for bulking?

    I am trying to gain weight, is coconut oil counter-productive? I know that MCT (60% of coconut oil's composition) don't get stocked as fat by the body, and some studies report that coconut oil helps burn fat (which isn't ideal for me, since having a bit extra fat on you helps maintaining an anabolic state).

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    no, it's fine. don't read too much into the way your body stores or burns things, as it's still all about total calories.

    for example, you cannot store alcohol as fat, or store it as anything else for that matter. it will be burned preferentially until it's out of your system. doesn't mean that alcohol won't make you gain weight. you just put off burning the other calories you've taken in.

    if MCT's can't be stored as fat (and i'm not convinced of that, btw), you'll just store the other calories you've taken in, until they're burned off. which will create the bulking situation, which is nothing more than a caloric excess.

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    • #3
      Nah knock your socks off with the CO, I'm in the same boat some what I decided to up my body fat a few percent to gain some muscle and performance. Now I have to track my damned carbs to ad fat...WTF it's like reverse primal.
      "Go For Broke"
      Fat Kine-230/24% @ 6'2"
      Small Kine-168/9%
      Now- 200/8%
      Goal- 210/6%

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jakey View Post
        you cannot store alcohol as fat, or store it as anything else for that matter. it will be burned preferentially until it's out of your system. doesn't mean that alcohol won't make you gain weight. you just put off burning the other calories you've taken in.
        So if you consumed 1,000 calories above maintenance from a diet consisting entirely of alcohol, would you gain weight?

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        • #5
          Yes.

          Say 2000 kcal maintenance. Plus 1000 kcal of alcohol. You would burn 1000 kcal of whatever else plus 1000 kcal of alcohol and store up to 1000 kcal/day.
          "Go For Broke"
          Fat Kine-230/24% @ 6'2"
          Small Kine-168/9%
          Now- 200/8%
          Goal- 210/6%

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          • #6
            Not sure if/how this might relate to coconut oil, but here's some good info on the alcohol question:

            The truth about alcohol, fat loss and muscle growth | Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health
            The Champagne of Beards

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            • #7
              No, I don't think so. It's actually quite good for bodybuilders. It may reduce body fat but helps maintain their muscle mass which means it's quite right to use. And this means more sure short success if consumed before going to sleep. Please check the following link:
              Having coconut oil before bed helps treat insomnia, helps in weight loss, and provides a number of other benefits

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Wanderlust View Post
                Yes.

                Say 2000 kcal maintenance. Plus 1000 kcal of alcohol. You would burn 1000 kcal of whatever else plus 1000 kcal of alcohol and store up to 1000 kcal/day.
                I know this is way off topic, but I'm responding to an already off topic comment.

                Just flat out WRONG. This is exactly why a calorie "bomb" is not our body. The obvious example is TEF and protein. Burn in a bomb, you get 4 calories per gram. In our body, almost 1/4th of that energy is used in the processing of the other 3 grams.

                Back to alcohol. Set aside wine and beer, they have calories other than the ethanol. Ethanol does NOT get processed into energy our body can use. Ever see a fat, spirit drinking, bar fiend? Nope.

                My own curiosity was aroused back in 2009. I was drinking, call it 500ml of vodka or whiskey a night. That IS almost 1100 calories according to the calorie bomb. But "weight!" My diet, exercise, and weight loss proceeded as if I was totally abstaining! It took several years of on and off research to find the answer. Almost every site mentioned alcohol as a diuretic, even often confusing massive beer drinking and the increased urination as proof. Holy stupid, Batman.

                If I stopped drinking for as little as one night, my morning weight would go up 3-4 pounds and I would not have the thirst of post-drinking mornings.

                I cannot recite the process of how ethanol is processed, but the bottom line is that it leaves our bodies via our breathing. Think Breath-O-Lyzer. It does not ever become fat.

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                • #9
                  OP: Are you trying to gain weight, or are you trying to "bulk?" Gain muscle. Two very different goals and processes.

                  CO and it's pure form, MCT oil has a long history of allegedly being a diet aid. It rests on the fact that one's metabolism gets bumped, unlike other oils. But I have never experience anything worthwhile, and in the meantime, you are consuming 120 or 100 calories per un-satiating tablespoon.

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