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  • Can't drop a pound. Legit frustrated. Help!

    I know. I have read these threads, too. If I wasn't so completely desperate I wouldn't be begging for help... But I am.

    Variables:

    Just finished 70 days of Atkins induction-level carbs (under 30g).
    Lost 20 initially, have not lost a pound in 5 weeks.
    49 year old, peri menopausal woman.
    Switched to primal two weeks ago, added fruits, throttled calories back to 1800 (I am 5'9", 208 pounds).
    Dairy: 3T HWC, occasional plain Greek yogurt
    Fat 70%, carb 10%, protein 20%
    Drinking CO with coffee
    Walking, lifting small hand weights and "sprinting" (lol) 3x a week
    Still in ketosis (sticks dark pink)

    Sample day:
    Coffee with CO and HWC, 3 eggs
    Salad with leftover meat or fish, oil and vinegar
    Meat or fish, spinach
    Greek yogurt with strawberries, squares of 85% coffee
    Snacks: 1 ounce almonds, diet coke, some grapes or berries, had a few Atkins bars over the last two weeks

    If you are still listening, I have had two twelve day rounds of progesterone during this time.

    Thank you so much for helping me out if you can. My back is against the wall.

  • #2
    Not everyone does well low carb for so long. You might consider adding in more carbs, or carb cycling. Start lifting REAL weights. Small hand weights won't do you any good. Get rid of the diet coke, so many bad things in that for you.

    Turning sticks dark pink would suggest your body is not USING the ketones for energy and signifies a problem.

    Your body may also be in a rest phase before losing more weight, as 20lbs is a lot to lose.

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    • #3
      you've been low carbing it for a while. see what happens with a little refeed. go high carb (sweet potatoes, rice, squashes, fruit, etc.)/low fat for a couple of days, then switch back. that might be the little kick that you need.
      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread60178.html

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      • #4
        I blame the prednisone. Nasty stuff. Not to mention whatever the prednisone was prescribed for.
        Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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        • #5
          Why not try lifting heavy things - it's definitely a major part of PB. I'd recommend learning barbell lifts, but YAYOG by Mark Lauren is pretty highly recommended, too, and requires no money or gym. I also think you might want to switch it up - load up on primal carbs for a day then go straight back to LC, and don't weigh yourself during that period.
          If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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          • #6
            Thanks, guys. I guess I am just terrified of losing control again and chowing down for days (weeks). Also afraid of the weight gain when the glucagon and water comes back on. Also... Afraid of induction flu again.

            I actually 86'd the diet coke for a few days and now it's down to one a day. Easy enough to get rid of. I just think there is a systemic problem here. WTH. I have always been able to lose before when I stopped eating junk and gorging. I cannot believe I have stalled like this- boggles my mind. I don't believe nuts and dairy have magical stalling powers, but I have limited them to such a minor amount. Also- obviously- as I increase carbs the appetite increases.

            Well.... I guess I know what I have to do. Increasing exercise and carbs is going to make me starving. I am so worried about blood sugar as my fasting was 119 three months ago (pushed me into this WOE).

            Question: increasing carbs in my mind would mean more Greek yogurt with berries and almonds on top. Not good, correct? I guess I could gag down a sweet potato.

            Sorry to obsess like this but it's gone beyond comical and into the depressing stage for me.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
              I blame the prednisone. Nasty stuff. Not to mention whatever the prednisone was prescribed for.
              Progesterone, specifically Prometrium. This was supposed to bring on a TOM, but: fail. Weight gain is a huge side effect, but supposedly because it stimulates appetite, which it hasn't.

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              • #8
                If weight gain is a side effect of the progesterone, you might gain even if it doesn't stimulate your appetite. I'm hypothyroid, and if my T3 drops very low, I will gain weight eating exactly the amount of food on which I was losing. It's all hormonal--and uncontrollable until I get my hormones regulated.

                But if it's not the meds, I'd suggest it's the calories. You say that you 'throttled back' to 1800 cal. Even though you're tall, you're perimenopausal, and that's a lot of calories for most women.

                When I was over 300 lbs (I'm currently 146), a nutritionist told me that the 'minimum' I should eat daily to lose is 1800 cal. But I have a metabolic dysfunction (which is how I got to over 300 lbs in the first place), and I knew that I could not lose on more than 1200 cal. That's what I did, and lost the first 80 lbs. Eventually I had to drop to 1000 cal to lose the rest. I am very carb sensitive (part of my dysfunction), and all this was on no more than 20g carbs, which is still the level I eat.

                I'm not telling you what's 'right' for you, but when you're not losing, the most common reason is the lack of a sufficient caloric deficit.

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                • #9
                  Lifting heavy will raise your metabolism for 24 hours beyond the exercise period itself, thus burning more calories than your basic cardio. It also increases your insulin sensitivity. I'd highly recommend you take the lifting advice seriously as part of solving this problem.
                  If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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                  • #10
                    I'd cut out the diet coke and Atkins bars. They are notorious for stalling people.

                    Also take measurements as you may be losing inches and not pounds on the scale.

                    Having lost a lot of weight on Atkins, I've often had 3-4 weeks of no weight loss, especially right after Induction. I'd often be losing inches, or needed to tweak my eating to cut out common stallers like too many sweeteners (Diet Coke), too many nuts, too much cheese, and more veggies and carbs to keep the weight lost happening.

                    There's tons of other veggies than potatoes to choose from. I like jicama, pumpkin, brussel sprouts, and squash.

                    Medications or injury/illness may also cause a stall. Eat cleanly and exercise and give it some time.

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                    • #11
                      Just give it a rest and focus on eating good primal foods, ditch the scale, give it a month or two and then start again. I've been in a stall for a few months and just gave it a rest and just started dropping some fat again. The last month or so I have been less strict- alcohol, more dairy, fruit... the only thing remaining cut was grains. Just tightened things up in the last week or two and have seen 2 lbs of loss. I think taking a "healthy" break helped.

                      http://maggiesfeast.wordpress.com/
                      Check out my blog. Hope to share lots of great recipes and ideas!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tfarny View Post
                        Lifting heavy will raise your metabolism for 24 hours beyond the exercise period itself, thus burning more calories than your basic cardio. It also increases your insulin sensitivity. I'd highly recommend you take the lifting advice seriously as part of solving this problem.
                        On it. Thank you!

                        If I'm eating too many bloody calories (which I'm sure I am) I don't even know where to go from here. Cutting out the CO will get rid of 275 or so. Almonds, dark chocolate- omg, is life going to be worth living? Haha..... But this has been just short of three months. I love it, it's all good, but I don't want to cut back on the really good stuff any more. Obviously if I reduce the meat and up the veg I will save calories, but forget about the 100 grams of protein at that point.

                        This has been a really easy deal for me. I have LOVED the stable blood sugar- just the incredible #jerf WOE. But I have to really look hard at this, break it down to its component parts, examine everything.

                        I'll up the lifting and lower the calories. Hey- at least I'm not gaining. If I add more veg and a bit more fruit I will reduce the Calories.

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                        • #13
                          To those of you who mentioned thyroid, my last was 1.22 (right when I started Atkins). T4, whatever that is: .9. HbA1C: 5.3.

                          I sooooo want to just give up and go primal without a thought to the business end of things, but that is what I am doing by going primal after three months of an Atkins/Taubes HFLC thing. I will be pounding down calories like crazy if I don't give some thought to it at this point.

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                          • #14
                            If you are pounding down calories something is out of balance. You shouldn't have the desire to binge if you are doing it right. I'd say let yourself have some carbs- even something like ice cream or chocolate (in a controlled portion like a Haagen Daz single serve).

                            I remember from CW days- a few months of good compliance= binge city when I would ease up.

                            I dunno, before I started stripping out all the pleasure from my diet I'd go ahead and adopt the primal lifestyle, get used to more carbs (you know fruits, veggies, occasional starches), do the work outs and in two months look at how my clothes are fitting and go from there.

                            I think the key is getting to a diet that is sustainable, which for most people= slow, very slow weight loss which is not the worst thing in the world when you realize that slow=never having to lose that pound again.

                            I feel like the failure of Atkins is that you eventually just can't keep eating that way (for most people) and never learned to eat a well rounded diet while dieting. Primal has set me up to naturally eat the right amount of foods and calories for maintenance and nourishment without thinking. It just takes some time and patience.

                            http://maggiesfeast.wordpress.com/
                            Check out my blog. Hope to share lots of great recipes and ideas!

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                            • #15
                              the sugar alcohols in those atkins bar stall lots of peeps. if you want a snack, eat some hard-boiled eggs or a chicken leg. some sliced turkey and cheese.

                              for the last 10 months i had a mirena iud, which secretes progesterone. among other bad side effects, i could not lose the weight i put on while having it. i had it removed monday and am down 6 pounds in 4 days, even though my flow has resumed with a vengeance and i had 3 glasses of wine last night. normally that tom/wine combo and i'd be super bloated.

                              sounds like you're tracking your foods? 70% fat may just be too high. instead of added fats, eat fattier meats. might wanna add more protein and carbs, like leafy greens, and lower the fats. broccoli, cauliflower and zucchini are kinda carby. i'm like you, i don't like sweet potatoes or bananas at all and too much fruit just isn't good for me. i eat berries just a few times per week.

                              and yeah, ditch the soda. it's just awful for you.
                              As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                              Ernest Hemingway

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