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  • #31
    You would think I would be able to take my kick ass health insurance and get some actual medical advice, but no. I asked my doctor ten times if I was going to raise my risk for breast cancer with the progesterone and she said "shut up and take them! How are the kids?" No joke. I called my primary to try to get a few other blood tests on the scrip I have for this weekend and they said "ah, no". I mean, WTF?
    OMG! fire your fucking doctor. this isn't stalinist russia and you have every right to question her advice and ANYTHING she recommends you putting in your body.

    ask around for friends and co-workers if they have a doc they like. i fired my gyn this week.
    As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

    Ernest Hemingway

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    • #32
      Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
      I blame the prednisone. Nasty stuff. Not to mention whatever the prednisone was prescribed for.
      This for sure. If your artificially monkeying around with your bodies processes with drugs it is hard to expect any sort of consistent or predictable results. Not saying that the meds were or are not currently needed, just that they create issues.

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      • #33
        the op said progesterone. not prednisone. hormones, not steroids.
        As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

        Ernest Hemingway

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        • #34
          Originally posted by fiercehunter View Post
          Your metabolism may be damaged.
          Co2 Factor: Practical ways to lose fat
          I just read a this and will read it in more depth later, but it did say that if you eat fat it will make you fatter! I am having trouble losing weight and was thinking today maybe because I eat quite a lot of fat and my metobalism is low then would my body just run on the fat I am ingesting and not go to my fat stores?


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          • #35
            Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
            the op said progesterone. not prednisone. hormones, not steroids.
            The good thing is what I wrote still applies

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            • #36
              Noodletoy:

              No kidding! The problem is that she is a friend (ish). Sister of my closest coworker. So we have a jokey-jokey relationship. I knew I was screwed when I walked out the door. So I called my cousin, also an OBGYN. She lives out of state and is as progressive as someone in the medico-pharma complex can be. She is the one who said to just take it every three months instead of every month. So between that and the experiences of others on this and another LC forum, I am crafting my own health care plan. My partner is a vegetarian. He eats a ton of soy frankenfoods but also is very into the environment, organic foods, and climate change- seriously, a toxic enough minefield of "issues" that we just know not to get into debates over microwaving in plastic or whatever else. However, he is suffering from some ED issues, right? Gee, wonder why. So he is off to get some blood work done this weekend and he calls the doctor back to ask him to add a hormone panel to what's ordered. "No". How about "no". I mean WTF. I think it's because they want to be the gatekeepers. Here, go get these things checked and if one is high, come back, we'll discuss it and order more tests. $$$$$$

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              • #37
                Originally posted by CarlaC View Post
                Noodletoy:

                No kidding! The problem is that she is a friend (ish). Sister of my closest coworker. So we have a jokey-jokey relationship.
                jokey-jokey sort of friend aside, get this woman and her totalitarian attitude out of your life. this is a critical time to have a doctor who will work with you and not rule you like you're a child in a victorian orphanage. do NOT be a sheep about your health. my long time doctor retired. the guy who inherited me sux. he's fired. i am now shopping for somebody new and know it may be a while before i find one who clicks. btw, my insurance is terrible, so i don't have as much latitude here as perhaps you do.

                your body is badly damaged from years of all sorts of meds. benzos? jeebus. vegetarian? lots of grains, then? hormones all on a coaster?

                step off and let your body heal. i know gaining weight is terrible and we all want it gone yesterday, but you're really going to need to be patient. get rid of all, all, all ALL processed foods. animal proteins, veggies, healthy fats, reasonable amounts of fruit and nuts. that is all. and get moving.
                As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                Ernest Hemingway

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                • #38
                  i'm sorry, but i don't understand why they are giving you progesterone if your cycles are naturally slowing? are you absolutely estrogen dominant and suffering other symptoms? what are the contraindications with the other meds you take?
                  As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                  Ernest Hemingway

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                    The good thing is what I wrote still applies
                    well, they are prescribed for different reasons and cause different, albeit equally terrible, side-effects.
                    As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                    Ernest Hemingway

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                    • #40
                      Carla, a lot of good advice has already been given, so I don't want to just repeat things, but I just wanted to say that stress has a huge impact on weight - both the chronic daily stress (from things like that stressful job you mentioned) and stressing yourself out by freaking over the stall.

                      About a year ago (last spring), I first started being very strict paleo. I had already eliminated gluten, dairy, and soy years before, but now it was time to kick the grains and sugar and omega 6 crap oils. Only problem was, the stricter I got, the more my body fought me. I kept cutting back and cutting back, and my body just held onto that fat more fiercely. It wasn't until the school year ended (spring is an especially stressful time for teachers) and i was on summer vacation that the weight just started disappearing. The kicker was that I wasn't being as strict anymore - i gave myself permission to eat as much fruit as I wanted, and I'm pretty sure there was a day somewhere when i ate a whole jar of honey followed by a pound of cured meats and lots of wine. I just loosened up, I relaxed, I stopped trying so hard.

                      That's when i learned the lesson that my body doesn't like to be forced to do anything against it's will. If I'm stressing and forcing it, i will be unsuccessful. I loosen up, (which still means eating healthy, just not being militant about calorie counting or denying myself any pleasure), my body slowly does good things on it's own timetable.

                      I think it's important to remember also that women lose weight differently than men. Almost all the diet books and research are writtten based on how men respond. Women have a lot of very complicated hormonal issues to contend with, which is why scientists consistently exclude women from health/diet related studies, unless they are post-menopausal. Just because your weight loss isn't 'effortless', don't think it means you're doing something wrong. It could just mean your body needs more time or less pressure to perform.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
                        i'm sorry, but i don't understand why they are giving you progesterone if your cycles are naturally slowing? are you absolutely estrogen dominant and suffering other symptoms? what are the contraindications with the other meds you take?
                        They are naturally slowing and I am estrogen dominant. That much I know. Hormone therapy is routine. My questioning of it is not routine. They don't want a buildup of endometrial tissue. That's all I know.

                        I have screwed my body up with a lifetime of eating, smoking, having five ten pound babies, popping legal meds and too much other stuff to list! I have had healthy times in there, it hasn't been all bad, but there you go. I started eating healthily maybe ten years ago. That translated to high carb and I was off to the races. Since then it's been multiple rounds of Weight Watchers and phentermine and Medifast and vegan-ing and Atkins (lost 40 ten years ago). But when I got a bad HbA1c number I freaked. Scared straight.

                        As I said before, this WOE is perfect for me and I have no complaints. But here I am. Same weight I was a month ago. And if anything, I over report calories.

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                        • #42
                          BestBetter, thank you for all of that. I see we are both in the B-Lo. Have you found a good source for grass fed beef? The stuff they have al Wegmans is so lean that it is tough. I want to get a half cow; Native Offerings will probably not have any and won't let me reserve one. Thoughts?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by ilovedogs View Post
                            I just read a this and will read it in more depth later, but it did say that if you eat fat it will make you fatter!
                            Does it? I'd use some skepticism with it then.

                            You don't, though, necessarily need to eat a lot of fat if you are overweight, being as you can draw on your stores -- caveat -- so long as your carbs are low, your protein is moderate (enough to maintain bodymass but not excessive), and you're not hungry.

                            Here's a good summary on how to become a better fat burner:

                            Your 2012 Weight-Loss Resolution: Become a Better Fat Burner | drcate.com

                            I would be reluctant to cut total calories to 1200 as the first post by the OP indicates she is eating. (She says she eats 30 g of carbs, and she also says that's 10% of her total, so she must be on 1200, since 30 x 4 = 120.) I'm not quite sure how she could do all the additional exercise people are recommending on that intake -- and, as Taubes points out food intake and exercise are not independent variables, as Conventional Wisdom mistakenly assumes, but dependent variables.

                            I'd suggest you look at Dr. Cate's tips. (It's an offsite link, but that advice seems in line with the Primal Blueprint.)

                            I doubt I'm qualified to comment on the OP's problem, which seems to need medical expertise. To others I would say, what seems to be successful for most people is to keep carbs relatively low and protein moderate (but high enough) and to "eat to satiety" not to a stringent low-calorie level. Some exercise would be good but not too much and no "chronic cardio". Good sleep is also important. The book on sleep, Lights Out, says that a little R Alpha Lipoic acid and a little evening primrose oil can help reset insulin sensitivity (can't recall the dosage off the top of my head) but only if you lay off the carbs and get enough sleep in a properly darkened room. The influence of sleep -- not mentioned yet in this thread -- probably can't be underrated.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by CarlaC View Post
                              They are naturally slowing and I am estrogen dominant. That much I know. Hormone therapy is routine. My questioning of it is not routine. They don't want a buildup of endometrial tissue. That's all I know.
                              i hope i don't seem too bossy, but since i am also struggling with hormonal issues, i'd like to help.

                              hormone therapy may be routine, but it's only because too many women don't feel empowered enough to question their doctors.

                              our bodies start producing less of all the sex hormones as we age. this is normal. some women do better as far as having them diminish in relative proportions and their menopause isn't awful. others are not so lucky.

                              unless you already have truly horrible manifestations of estrogen-dominance, like crazy bleeding or cramps that make you double over ( and granted, everybody's tolerance is different for this stuff), i don't see why you are taking synthetic hormones at all. much like giving somebody with no heart disease statins, they are treating you for something you don't have.

                              endometrial thickening, in and of itself, is not dangerous. it's just the messy painful fall-out that sometimes needs handling. if that starts happening, look into ablation. that may be my next step. we shall see.

                              just stop taking them. now.

                              in just 4 days of having no progesterone, i have dropped 6 pounds. that's WITH some wine last night and the return of a pretty messy tom. my mood feels like "me" again and my libido is returning a bit more each day.
                              As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                              Ernest Hemingway

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by CarlaC View Post
                                BestBetter, thank you for all of that. I see we are both in the B-Lo. Have you found a good source for grass fed beef? The stuff they have al Wegmans is so lean that it is tough. I want to get a half cow; Native Offerings will probably not have any and won't let me reserve one. Thoughts?
                                Yes, check out the farmer's market on Elmwood/Bidwell Saturday morning. Hanova Hills has great beef - pasture raised and finished, tastes fantastic (you can get 4lbs for $20, which is cheaper than the Wegman's grassfed), plus they have liver, oxtail, and some odds and ends that are usually difficult to find. Also, at the farmer's market there is a lady who sells rabbit, goat, chicken, turkey, and eggs (name of her farm is Painted Meadow).

                                And, just the other day i went to A Chau International Market (833 Niagara St.) - it's an asian market that has every weird animal part you could think of - as in bags of brains - and lots of other novel international goodies (I got this casava coconut 'cake' that was really good, and only like 3 ingredients). Have you been there? If not, it's worth the trip!

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